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Anatoly Karpov vs Ulf Andersson
"So You Think You Can Dance" (game of the day Apr-23-2009)
Milan (1975), Milan ITA, rd 8, Aug-28
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation. Modern Line (B44)  ·  0-1
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Feb-02-11  talisman: <AJ> 1970...the year Earl won it and our main man Pal Benko said to Bobby..."take my place man you gotta do it."
Aug-24-11  newzild: <Pal Benko said to Bobby..."take my place man you gotta do it.">

I've always resented Benko for that. It gave Bobby the chance to stop playing chess at his peak.

Nov-03-13
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  SpaceRunner: "Dr. J: Does anyone know what might have happened after 28 Qxe3, maintaining the guard on the h-pawn?"

probably a draw according to Andersson.

Black regaining a pawn ,,b5 and Nb6

But Karpov tried to use Anderssons lack of time!

Nov-03-13
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  parisattack: <"Dr. J: Does anyone know what might have happened after 28 Qxe3, maintaining the guard on the h-pawn?">

In Grandmaster Chess Strategy by Kaufeld & Kern (a book on Andersson's games categorized by positional motif) they give 2. ...Rxe3!? 28. Ne3! and in notes: "The best reply; 28. Qxe3, Bf4; 29. Qd4, Bxc1; 30. Rxc1, b5; 31, Rd1, Nb6;32. Ne3, Nbxd5; 33. Ncxd5, Bxd5; 34. Nf5, Re8=."

Feb-26-14  Sharpov: Great Game.
Feb-26-14
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  offramp: Karpov's only loss in 1975.
Feb-26-14  Everett: Just realized the similarity between Game 15 1985 Karpov-Kasparov and this game, in that both of Karpov's opponents played around a passed d-pawn.

I prefer this game, due to the OTB exchange sac. Pretty amazing. In my top 100, easy.

Dec-19-14  1 2 3 4: andersson most boring player ever born
Dec-19-14  8284: <1234> You think?
Aug-05-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp:


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« La position blanche est désespérée mais la lutte continue. Si les noirs avaient essayé 76...Bf3 dans cette position, alors après 77.Re8+ Kh7 78.Qd3+ g6 79.d7 Bxe2? cela aurait amené une inattendue lueur d’espoir. 80.Rh8+ Kxh8 81.d7-d8=Q+ h7 82.Qxg6+!! Kxg6 (82...fxg6 avec un échec perpétuel.) 83.Qg5+! Kh7 Prendre la reine c’est pat! 84.Qf5+ Kg7 85.Qg5+ avec échec perpétuel. » Karpov

We have mentioned this before but I thought it would be good to have it from the horse's mouth.

Thanks to EE: http://www.europe-echecs.com/art/mi...

Jun-19-16  Albion 1959: Karpov's first loss after becoming the World Champion. And Andersson's only win in 45 attempts against Karpov. This game does show hard it was to beat Karpov at this stage of his career. Would Fischer have beaten him so easily (or even at all) as some of the comments on this site have suggested ?
Jul-31-16  SimplicityRichard: <Albion 1959: Would Fischer have beaten him (Karpov) so easily (or even at all?)...>

In my view, I think Fischer would have beaten Karpov in 1975; albeit not easily at all. It would have been a close match. And let us remember that in this particular game, Andersson adopts a strategical plan devised by Fischer in order to beat Karpov after 45 unsuccessful attempts as you say. Andersson only succeeds after employing this "Fischer Plan", and Karpov is defeated.#

Aug-01-16
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  Petrosianic: <In my view, I think Fischer would have beaten Karpov in 1975;>

But the opinion doesn't mean anything because there are no samples of Fischer's play in 1975 to base it on,. What you probably mean is that the Fischer of 1972 would have beaten the Karpov of 1975, which could never have been played in any case.

Aug-01-16
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  diceman: <Petrosianic: <In my view, I think Fischer would have beaten Karpov in 1975;>

But the opinion doesn't mean anything because there are no samples of Fischer's play in 1975 to base it on,>

Doesn't mean anything to Fischer hater Petrosianic.

Aug-01-16
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  perfidious: <newzild: <Pal Benko said to Bobby..."take my place man you gotta do it.">

I've always resented Benko for that. It gave Bobby the chance to stop playing chess at his peak.>

Why, though?

Do you believe Fischer would have carried on playing longer if he had not participated in the 1969-72 cycle, or are you put out that he got to the top of the heap?

Aug-02-16  Howard: Now, why would anyone "resent" Benko for what he did? Just how the hell was he or anyone else to know that Fischer would quit chess after becoming world champion ? It wasn't Benko's fault!
Jul-07-17
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  offramp: If I ever do a list of the greatest chess games of all time, this brilliant game will be on it. Jon Speelman annotated it a few times, and it is through him that I first read about it. It has a balance between attack and defence, tipped at the last moment.
Jul-07-17  ughaibu: SimplicityRichard: it wasn't after forty-five unsuccessful attempts, this was his fifth of a total of forty-two attempts. Twelve losses, one win and twenty-nine draws.

So, if he carried on using Fischer's strategies, what should we conclude? And if he stopped using Fischer's strategies, what should we conclude?

Jul-07-17
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  Petrosianic: <Howard>: <Now, why would anyone "resent" Benko for what he did? Just how the hell was he or anyone else to know that Fischer would quit chess after becoming world champion ? It wasn't Benko's fault!>

There used to be a story that Benko had been paid to give up his seat. Benko rebutted it in his column, however. He did receive money, but it was for acting as second to Addison and Reshevsky in the Interzonal, and was the same money he'd have gotten if he'd played himself. In short, Benko gave up his seat, not his fee, which no one can blame him for.

Jul-07-17
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  offramp: <SimplicityRichard: I think Fischer would have beaten Karpov in 1975.>

Discussions about the Karpov - Fischer World Championship Match (1975) are like The Undertaker in WWE.

You never know where or when or how or <WHY> they will suddenly turn up.

Jul-07-17
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  Petrosianic: <offramp>: <You never know where or when or how or <WHY> they will suddenly turn up.>

Yeah you do. Basically ANY time one of his rivals does something good, particularly something good that he didn't do, you can count on Fanboy Panic setting in.

Jul-07-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Isn't 54. Bh3 (threatening Rf1#) much stronger than the game move Qc8? White's only defense to prevent checkmate or losing the queen is 54...Re4 55. Rf1+ Ke3 56. Qh8 and white is threatening to play Qh2+ and then take the black queen, which is en prise. What am I missing (other than a few extra inches of cerebral cortex)?
Jul-07-17
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <CHC>--Well, it looks like you have reversed the colors and the orientation of the board, unless I am even more out of it than you seem to be, which is entirely possible. I think you mean the line 54..Bh3 55 Re4 Rf1+ 56 Ke3 Qa8. This indeed does look bad for white, but maybe he could play 55 Qe4 instead, after which 55..Rf1+ 56 Ke3 doesn't look immediately lost for white. What Andersson played won the game for him anyway, so maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.
Jul-08-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: <CHC>--Well, it looks like you have reversed the colors and the orientation of the board..., I think you mean the line 54..Bh3 55 Re4 Rf1+ 56 Ke3 Qa8.>

Come now, I only made one mistake in annotation: Qh8 instead of Qa8 :-)

< This indeed does look bad for white, but maybe he could play 55 Qe4 instead, after which 55..Rf1+ 56 Ke3 doesn't look immediately lost for white.>

Qe4 is much better than Re4 -- thanks, I missed that.

Jul-08-17
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  offramp: A strange exchange:

<1 2 3 4: andersson most boring player ever born

8284: <1234> You think?>

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