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| Sep-02-18 | | Boomie: <Touchdown: What is the continuation if Black plays 31...Nb3 instead of Nc4. If 32.g5 Nc1 33.Bb1 Ne2 attacking c3 and f4.> <clocked> proposed 31...Nb3. Capablanca vs Tartakower, 1924 (kibitz #41) I took a swing at it.
Capablanca vs Tartakower, 1924 (kibitz #63) Then <clocked> suggested the Nb3/Nc1 maneuver. Capablanca vs Tartakower, 1924 (kibitz #64) You will find a lot of work after that trying to find a way out for black. Some of the best analysts at CG took a swing at it. <beatgiant> proposed 31. Kh3 as an improvement for white. Capablanca vs Tartakower, 1924 (kibitz #165) Subsequent analysis was unable to bust 31. Kh3. |
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| Sep-15-18 | | Anvesh Bandekar: Great game |
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| Nov-26-18 | | MrJafari: Honestly I expected more interesting game but I think the value of this game refers to its technical concepts... |
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| Oct-31-19 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: This game reminds me a little of:
Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971 |
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| Dec-20-19 | | HarryP: This is one of my favorite endgames. I have played it over many times with much enjoyment. |
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| Dec-21-19 | | Petrosianic: <This is one of my favorite endgames. I have played it over many times with much enjoyment.> You love it, yet have nothing specifically good to say about it? Isn't that kind of damning with faint praise? |
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| Dec-26-19 | | HarryP: Petrosianic, I'm sorry. This endgame is so famous, I thought no one would need any comments from me specifically with regard to Capa's play. Other kibitzers have done well on that. I just wanted to join in with the praise of this marvelous endgame. It has been analyzed in many books. I find especially delightful what Irving Chernev says in his notes after Black's 34th move: "In a simplified ending, where Pawns are worth their weight in gold, Capa gives away two of them! Furthermore, he lets Black capture them with check!" If you take a look at my comment on Pillsbury-Pollock, Hastings 1895, you'll see I think that endgame might remind one of the ending of this game: "Pillsbury's play from 42.Ke3 on is beautiful and is somewhat similar to Capa's famous endgame in Capablanca-Tartakover, New York 1924." |
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Mar-29-21
 | | maxi: <Caleb554> Funny! |
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| Dec-01-21 | | tbontb: A famous and much-analysed Capablanca endgame. After 36....Rf3 White wins as in the game so a better try is 36....a6 which may yet hold after the plausible variations 37.g6 b5 38.axb5 axb5 39.Kg5 b4 40.Kf6 Rc6+ or 37.Rd7 Rf3 38.g6 Rxf4+ 39.Kg5 Re4 40.Kf6 Re8. |
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| Dec-02-21 | | sudoplatov: I looked a bit with an online Stockfish (not the local) and it likes 31.Rd2 also. Depending on the ply parity, either 31.Rd2 or 31.Kh3 is given as best. |
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Jun-08-22
 | | kingscrusher: Candidate for one of the most instructive games of chess ever played. My new insights revisiting:
Important to gather ALL the metaphors - not just rook on the 7th and Aggressive King but also "Shield" - Capablanca left the f5 pawn otherwise it would be drawing. Gather ALL the Metaphors - which allow creative reasoning as opposed to a mass of if-then games (e.g. chaotic game of Tal) - metaphors allow leverage to think about new ideas - not just about the cyclomatic complexity of if-then style games. It is the enabling of creativity in endgames through the Metaphors - many of which are expressed in this one game example. It is for that reason that this in my view is one of the MOST INSTRUCTIVE games of chess ever played. |
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Jun-08-22
| | kingscrusher: I had two goes at analysing it in the past here: Back in 2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d5...
And later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaC...
But my key observation now is that this game is actually "metaphor-rich" |
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Jun-09-22
 | | fredthebear: <A famous and much-analysed Capablanca endgame.> This game has appeared in numerous chess books from authors Lasker, Znosko-Borovsky, and Levenfish to Soltis, Kasparov, and Giddins. <Oct-14-03 drukenknight: By the way the Alekhine annotations we see in the window are the official notes from the tournament book> 1924. You can view Alekhine and Reti's notes by clicking on the tiny blue link [CLICK HERE] in the narrow rectangle above. This analysis may not appear with all PGN Viewer.
Try using PGN Viewer: Olga Viewer (default).
The <kingscrusher> videos have been well-received also. |
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| Dec-26-22 | | Messiah: Good job! |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: Till move 30, it looks drawn.
After move 30. Capa plays many accurate moves and Tartakower makes two mistakes and one blunder to lose the game. The two mistakes seem to be
36. ..Rf3
49. ...Rc1
After 51. ..Rxa4 (a blunder), the game is over |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: After 36. Kh4, the best move would have been a6, trying to support the b pawn. After move 36, black should have tried to promote his own pawns rather than attack white's pawns. |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: I guess 49. ...Rc1 is not a mistake. The game is lost already, but the game could have been prolonged by trying to promote black's own pawns |
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Mar-28-24
 | | beatgiant: <VictorVonDoom> Previous kibitzing here has not managed to make 36...a6 work for Black. See Capablanca vs Tartakower, 1924 (kibitz #373) for one example. Could you post a sample line after 36...a6 37. Kh5 for how you think it should continue? |
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| Mar-28-24 | | sudoplatov: I've got the local Stockfish doing the analysis automatically. Its comments remind many of Blackburne's comments from the 1895 Hastings tournament. |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: Well, <beatgiant> up till move 36, I think black has made some small inaccuracies. So, white is a bit better on move 36. But still looks like the best move here. I'll try to post a sample line.
36. ..a6 37. Kh5 b5 38. axb5 axb5 39. Kg6 b4 40. Rh8+ Ke7 41. Kxf5 Rc6 42. Rh3 Rc3 43. Rh7+ Kf8 44. Rh8+ Kg7 45. Rb8 b3 46. Rb7 Kf8 47. Rb8+ Ke7 48. Rb7 Kd6 49. Kf6 Kd7 50. g6 Rc6+ 51. Kf7 Rb6 52. Rxb6 cxb6 53. g7 b2 54. g8=Q b1=Q After this both have promoted their pawns.
But white is still better |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: But the game does look equal after 31. g4 |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: g4 I think is a mistake. Instead white should have played Rd7 attacking the d5 pawn. If black captures the c3 pawn, bishop captues g6 pawn |
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| Mar-28-24 | | VictorVonDoom: Whereas if white plays g4, it allows black to play Nb3, threatening to take the d4 pawn after rook captures c3 pawn and the game will be equal. |
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Mar-28-24
| | beatgiant: <ViktorVonDoom> Did you check the previous kibitz I pointed out above? It explains why, after 36...a6 37. Kh5 b5, White should not reply 38. axb5 as in your line, but instead <38. Kg6>. There is also a lot of previous kibitzing to suggest improvements for White on move 31, and pointing out 31...Nb3 as an improvement for Black. You can review them using the "search thread" feature. I don't think 31. Rd7 has been suggested before, and it does look very interesting. Black needs to look for queenside counterplay without letting White get two connected passers on the kingside. With that in mind, I suggest 31. Rd7 <Nc4> 32. Kh3 Ne3 33. Kh4 Nd1. White looks better but I still don't see a clear win. |
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Oct-14-24
 | | Freelance Assassin: <<31. g4> Anxious nature might have moved the King towards the queenside, but Capablanca adheres to the principle of aggression that governs rook endings. -- Reti> I will gladly play 31. Kf2 over g4, though I prefer Rd7. |
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