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|Apr-14-14|| ||maxi: <Pawn and Two> cites a comment by <Peligroso Patzer> quoting Russian analysis of the position after 36.Kh4. The move 36...a6 seems to be the best for Black in this position. The answer suggested is the notable 37.Kh5. I have analyzed this move and have found no working defense for Black. The strongest line seems 36...a6 37.Kh5! b5 38.Kg6 b4 39.Rh8+ Ke7 40.Kxf5 b3 41.Rb8 Kf7 42.Ke5 and wins. I am a little baffled by this result. It is hard to believe there is no defense already by move 36.|
|Apr-14-14|| ||maxi: Perhaps somebody may wish to take a look at 36...a6 37.♔h5 b5 38.♔g6 ♖c6+ 39.♔xf5 bxa4.|
|Apr-14-14|| ||offramp: I'd like to know what < LIFE Master AJ>'s opinion of this game is.|
|Apr-14-14|| ||perfidious: The previous post belongs at the Odd Lie page.|
|Apr-14-14|| ||Howard: As some of you may be aware, Steve Giddins book The Greatest Ever Chess Endgames analyzes this endgame in detail, and a few people have posted comments about that back in May, 2012 (Flip back about three pages.)|
Furthermore, ChessCafe.com ran some extensive analysis on this ending in a November, 2004---just looked it up !
So here's where I'm a bit confused...once Capablanca played his celebrated 35.Kg3, WAS the endgame still won ? Granted, Tartakower certainly could have put up stiffer resistance, but did he actually have a draw ?!
|Apr-14-14|| ||maxi: The ChessCafe notes from 2004 I have seen don't consider 35...a6, but they may be others I don't know about. Perhaps you can be a bit more precise.|
|Apr-14-14|| ||maxi: <Howard> In a word, after 35.Kg3 Rxc+ is a weak move. The move 35...a6 is much better. Russian analysis have suggested that 36.Kh4 wins even against this better move. I have been going over the position using the Russian suggestion and it seems the position was won already. But remember chess is very tricky...|
|Apr-14-14|| ||john barleycorn: I found this regarding 35...a6 . Don't know whether the russian analysts stole it from the same source:|
The only move Black can really play in this position.
I should also point out that I analyzed this game on a friend's computer with the computer
program Fritz 4. (This was like in 1996.) The computer thought for over an hour, (in this position);
and it still considered this position to be ... completely winning for BLACK!!! (ha ha ha)
[ 35...a6?!; 36.Kh4 Rxc3; 37.g6 c5; 38.dxc5 bxc5!?; 39.Kg5! Re3; 40.Kf6! Kg8;
41.Rg7+! Kh8; 42.Rc7! Re8; 43.Kxf5! c4; (Bad is: 43...Kg8?!; when Black is setting
himself up for a fork as White advances his f-pawn.) 44.Kg5 Rd8; 45.f5 d4; 46.f6 Kg8;
(46...d3; 47.Kh6 d2; 48.g7+ Kg8; 49.f7#) 47.Kh6, (" ") and White is winning. ].>
|Apr-14-14|| ||maxi: I have been careless in my notes and sometimes I have mixed above two different variations, the one coming from 35.Kg3 Rxc3+ 36.Kh4 a6 and the one from 35.Kg3 a6 right away. But in either case White wins if his King follows the route Kg3-h4-h5 right away.|
|Jul-15-14|| ||Howard: This just in ! Chernev's well-known classic The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played is now coming out in.....algebraic ! You can pre-order it now.|
That book has been around for about 50 years---tells you something about its enduring appeal.
|Dec-15-14|| ||Howard: So, thus, it appears that.....35...a6 would have put up much stronger resistance, but the mighty Cuban still should have won anyway.|
Is that correct ?!
|Jun-26-15|| ||Howard: So the "point of no return" was when Black failed to play 33...Nd1. After that, the game was lost completely---correct ?|
|Jun-26-15|| ||maxi: <Howard> After 33...Nf5 34.BxN gxf 35.Kg3 there seems to exist no defense at all. The best is 35...a6. What is remarkable is that as far as I could tell in all variations White wins by infiltrating his King via Kg3-h4-h5. That was completely unexpected to me.|
As to the options to 33...Nf5, sorry, but I have not gone over that.
|Sep-09-15|| ||The Kings Domain: This has been one of my all-time favorites. Capablanca's classical style of play has all the beauty and subtlety of the finest masterwork only a truly outstanding artist can conceive. One can't fail to appreciate his complete dominance of the game: the way he alters threats on both the kingside and queenside at the start; the sacrifice of his pawn on the h-file in order to bring his rook into play, changing the course of the game; and the masterly endgame, where he sacrifices his pawns in order not to lose momentum at his advanced pawns at black's kingside. His confidence in his game is admirable considering the tense position. Gotta love the sly and nimble move where he hides his king behind black's pawn rather than capturing it, nullifying black's chances at delaying checks. He had his opponent dancing to his tune from start to finish, and none could do it more elegantly.|
|May-26-16|| ||edubueno: The adventures during the opening did not any advantage to Capa. During the middlegame, Tartakower failed in looking a better position, 24...c5! of 24...Dc6! should prevent the unfavourable endgame conditions. Capa emerged with a brilliant final.|
|Feb-22-17|| ||Jimmy720: memorize|
|May-10-17|| ||User not found: I don't understand White's annotation claiming that this move,27.h5 is "a calamity!?". Even if he's referring to blacks response of Rf6 it still puzzles me.. |
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|Dec-02-17|| ||jeff6789: Does anyone know whether the first moves played were 1 d5 e6 2 Nf3 f5 as in chessgames.com or 1 d5 f5 2 Nf3 e6 as in Chernov's book Capablanca's Best Chess Endings. I suspect that the chessgames.com version is correct but I'm only guessing. Just curious.|
|Dec-02-17|| ||MissScarlett: Game score was published on March 24th, i.e., the following day, in the <Brooklyn Daily Eagle>, p.8. It has 1...f5. 2...e6.|
|Dec-02-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Brooklyn Daily Eagle> scooped the NYT? Amazing.|
|Mar-09-18|| ||AgentX: This endgame is brilliant. My #3 on greatest endgames ever played. The excellent coordination of rook and bishop, and then the final part with Bxf5 and the king penetration. It was also very rich to analyze, after 36...a6 only 37.Kh5! b5 38. Kg6 bxa4! 39.Kxf5 a3 40.Rh6!! wins. That's why 38.axb5 is bad, as he doesn't hit the a-pawn anymore. Amazing!|
|Mar-09-18|| ||ughaibu: <My #3 on greatest endgames ever played.> |
Which games are numbers 1, 2, 4 and 5?
|Jun-03-18|| ||Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC-....|
|Jun-18-18|| ||Omnipotent00001: 52. d6 is a mate in 14 moves.|
|Jul-23-18|| ||Chessman1504: I'm always impressed by this game. Allowing The structural weaknesses and material sacrifices to get a dominating king position is such a sublime technique. I can always come back to this game and regain a love for chess, and striving to play "simply" (which is of course, razor-sharp) and occasionally winning in this way is never "exciting," yet deeply satisfying.|
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