|Oct-16-04|| ||DhavalVyas: Can anyone explain to me why ANYONE would ever want to agree to a 13 move draw? I know one can become tired over the coarse of the match, but this is ridiculous. |
|Oct-16-04|| ||tpstar: I have to admit, I've seen some incredible draws in my life, but this one between Karpov and Kasparov HAS to be the best I've seen. I mean, I just can't believe how much passion and fighting spirit I can feel by analyzing this game. |
|Oct-16-04|| ||Joshka: Well...some people think these kind of games are "not on the level"....check out the latest game from that Euro team tourney Kasparov-Adams...a VERY exciting draw in a Nimzo. Both players were walking the tight-rope! |
|Oct-16-04|| ||Dionyseus: If you think that's an incredible draw, you haven't seen this 8 move draw by Kramnik:
Kharlov vs Kramnik, 1990
Here's another one of Kramnik's amazing 8 move draws:
Kramnik vs Glek, 1992
Here's a 9 move draw by Kramnik:
Kramnik vs Gheorghiu, 1989
Yet another of Kramnik's magnificent 9 move draws:
M Makarov vs Kramnik, 1991
And more 9 movers by Kramnik:
E Lobron vs Kramnik, 1993
Here's a 10 move draw by Kramnik:
Kramnik vs Huzman, 1989
Another 10 move draw by non other than Kramnik: Semeniuk vs Kramnik, 1990
An 11 move draw by Kramnik: Sakaev vs Kramnik, 1991
Another 11 mover by Kramnik:
Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1993
A 12 move draw by Kramnik:
J Gdanski vs Kramnik, 1992
Anoter 12 mover by Kramnik:
Kramnik vs Khalifman, 1993
And that was only by checking the first 15 pages out of the 65 pages in this database. I'm not going to bother with more.
|Oct-16-04|| ||tpstar: <Dionyseus> Those were all quick draws because he had VD. |
|Oct-16-04|| ||percyblakeney: Number of draws with moves no more than 10 in the database (current FIDE top 10):|
That is a good looking result for Kasparov, considering the fact that he has much more games in the database than the other players mentioned above.
|Oct-16-04|| ||Dionyseus: Nice list, Percyblackeney. Interestingly, if you set the search parameter to "draws with no more than 11 moves," Kramnik has 19 games and Adams has 20.
If you increase it to "draws with no more than 12 moves, Kramnik goes ahead with 29 games, Adams only 26 games. |
|Nov-09-04|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: <tpstar> So maybe Pillsbury would have lived longer if he'd played more quick draws after he became, ahem, ill? |
|Nov-17-06|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Dhavalvyas>
The series of dull draws was part of Kasparov's match strategy to exploit the lack of stamina of Karpov and to test his patience.
Even though it is short, Karpov still has to put in some mental effort for a while, three to four times a week, and not get frustrated so close to victory.
|Dec-14-07|| ||amadeus: A 13 moves draw...|
|Dec-14-07|| ||tpstar: Time erases the context.
That "incredible draws" bit was posted 50 times in one night by our friend <DV> during Brissago 2004, except they were all erased by the Administrators leaving only my replay. I saved it in case he acted up again.
Of course "VD" is a certain nickname which was also a hot topic back then. ;>D
|Apr-12-08|| ||Knight13: Grandmaster draw, that's why it's 13. Don't do the "bad luck" number thing it won't work on me.|
|Jul-09-08|| ||Abejorral: This crap should be erased of the database.|
|Jul-09-08|| ||suenteus po 147: <Abejorral> Despite how it may irk you, this game was part of a world championship match between the two best players in the world at the time, and therefore has historical and contextual significance, if nothing else. However, I don't see much value in your post in any way, so maybe that's what should be erased from the database, hmmm?|
|Jul-09-08|| ||RookFile: Kasparov's willingness to take the draw with black was understandable. He was down in the match and couldn't afford more losses. |
But why would Karpov take this draw so early??
|Jul-09-08|| ||blacksburg: maybe karpov felt that he had no advantage to justify playing for a win. after 13...c5 black has basically solved all of his opening problems. the queen's bishop especially has a very nice open line. but who knows, there was no risk in playing on a little with white. the psychological factors in this match were just crazy, who knows what karpov was thinking.|
|Jul-09-08|| ||Jim Bartle: At this point Karpov was up 5-0, right?
I think he was desperate to go 6-0, and didn't want to take any chances at all, only wanted to continue if he got a clear advantage from the opening.
|Apr-07-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Oh, come on!|
|Aug-24-14|| ||Chessdreamer: The score for this game is inncorrect. It should read..|
1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4
b5 8.Be2 Bb7 9.a3 b4 10.Na4 bxa3 11.bxa3 Be7 12.O-O O-O 13.Bb2
|Oct-29-17|| ||offramp: Karpov thought about 8. Be2 for half an hour.
Kasparov's move 9...b4! was a novelty, which equalised immediately.