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Magnus Carlsen vs Viswanathan Anand
Anand-Carlsen World Championship (2013)  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: Marshall Gambit. Forgotten Variation (D31)  ·  1-0
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Nov-29-13
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  john barleycorn: 2 earlier games not in this database.

http://www.365chess.com/view_game.p...

http://www.365chess.com/view_game.p...

Nov-29-13  Captain Hindsight: No change is the essential process of the status quo.
Nov-29-13
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  john barleycorn: < LIFE Master AJ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4...

A video on this game ...>

Suggestion:

#1.) Don't make a video when you have not finished your analysis.

#2.) When you say "without any further ado we jump right into the game" you should do that. However, you say that at 01:28 and after some bla bla you repeat it at 02:04 and then again at 02:30. 10 minutes later you are in the game. Finally.

#3.) Don't discuss an endgame that did not appear on the board and therefore is not related to the game.

Dec-01-13
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  Karpova: Q: <If there was one thing that you would have liked to do differently in this match, if you had to do it all over again, what would that one thing be?>

Anand: <If there was one game I could take back it would be the fifth. Psychologically I felt that if I could neutralize his strongest point, I mean this is what he's gotten everything that he's achieved, which is to go on playing long games without taking any real risk, I mean he makes the position first very dry, and then he goes on and on and on, waiting for mistakes, it's a very peculiar style to deal with. I felt that if I could develop the confidence to neutralize that, then I would force him out of his comfort zone, and I could take him on. The fifth game was a blow at many levels, not only at the chess board, also in terms of my strategy, in terms of psychology, everything. I could still have put up a better show after that, but sometimes you take these blows very hard. In fact it's quite humbling that after so many matches you watch yourself implode almost. It teaches you some humility.>

From an interview with Rajdeep Sardesai of CNN-IBN, http://en.chessbase.com/post/anand-...

Dec-05-13  clownface: The "forgotten" variation: sounds a little bit ninjary ~$^>'///,<
Dec-29-13
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  Ulhumbrus: There were at least two combinations contained in what might be called a dry game.

One appears after 44...Ke6 (instead of 44...Kd5 as played). On 45 Bf5+ Kxe4 46 Bc2+ wins the exchange

A second is the one pointed out by several commentators and which might have gained Anand a draw, namely, 45...Ra1! 46 Bg8+ Kc6 47 Bxb3 Rxa3! pinning and overpowering White's bishop

The game suggests that such combinations can be expected to occur in dry positions.

One possible reason why Anand did not play the second combination was fatigue: Anand's team made no attempt to bring back the traditional time controls with adjournments.

As there was no cause to fear cheating this would not have been difficult to arrange in the hotel.

A second possible reason is that Kramnik was right to say that Anand was afraid of Carlsen. One reason for Anand to listen to Kramnik is that Anand might have then found a remedy eg to play objectively, as Carlsen would play. This meant playing game 2 as Carlsen would have played it, not granting an easy draw but using White's greater space to place some pressure on Black.

Who knows but that the quick draw in game 2 caused Anand to miss a win in game 3.

I suspect that the quick draw in game 2 against a Caro-Kann cost Anand the match in 2013 just as it cost Spassky the match in 1974.

Jan-02-14  checkmateyourmove: I love the side stepping king moves of magnus in the middle game.
Feb-09-14
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  Ulhumbrus: With 10 Qd3 Carlsen may have pre-empted Anand's preparation and got his novelty in first.

This was the only game of the match in which Carlsen played the queen's gambit. An alternative to the version of the Slav defence which Anand tried unsuccessfully was Lasker's defence as in the game Marshall vs Lasker, 1907 but then Anand could not have known in advance that his preparation of the opening defence which he chose would get pre-empted by Carlsen's innovation

This suggests the following lesson about opening preparation: If you have found an alternative to a move given by theory, it is possible that your opponent has also found an alternative to an earlier move.

Feb-15-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...

My analysis of this game, this is all I am going to do, I am not going to do a web page on this particular game.

Feb-15-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: If you DL/look-at this game analysis, you will see that it runs 20 pages ...
Feb-15-14
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  john barleycorn: <LIFE Master AJ: If you DL/look-at this game analysis, you will see that it runs 20 pages ...>

can easily be reduced to 4 pages.

Feb-16-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: Yes, then it might match your IQ.
Feb-16-14
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  john barleycorn: <LIFE Master AJ: Yes, then it might match your IQ.>

Absolutely.

And since you know latin, I believe in "pauca sed matura". Remove the hot air from it.

Feb-16-14
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  john barleycorn: <Premium Chessgames Member by courtesy of John Barleycorn><LIFE Master AJ: Yes, then it might match your IQ>

are you insulting my intelligence? I mean, I bought your premium membership. What kind of message are you sending out to your future sponsors like <Jambow> etc.?

Feb-20-14
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  Ulhumbrus: In the position after 16 Be2 if Black's worst placed piece is his queen's rook on a8, this suggests attending to that piece by 16...Rb8 as in the famous game Marshall vs Lasker, 1907
Feb-20-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: <<Feb-20-14 <Ulhumbrus:> In the position after 16 Be2 if Black's worst placed piece is his queen's rook on a8, this suggests attending to that piece by 16...Rb8 as in the famous game Marshall vs Lasker, 1907 >>

I had the same thought, when I first saw this game.

Feb-22-14
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  john barleycorn: < LIFE Master AJ: <<Feb-20-14 <Ulhumbrus:> In the position after 16 Be2 if Black's worst placed piece is his queen's rook on a8, this suggests attending to that piece by 16...Rb8 as in the famous game Marshall vs Lasker, 1907 >>

I had the same thought, when I first saw this game.>

Why isn't it included in the analysis?
Could easily bring it up to 22 pages.

Feb-22-14
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  LIFE Master AJ:


click for larger view

The actual game position after 48.Rh6+!

Below is my analysis - which pretty much proves that <csmath> was correct, Black can draw ... with best play.

[ It is almost unbelievable, but Black may have had a draw with an endgame that is really amazing, almost like a composed study. (It is based on the endgame with two Rook-Pawns, the side with the extra Pawns cannot win.)

Much better was: >/= 48...Kc7!!;

A drawing resource <(initially)> missed by me, (using several engines); and just about everyone else.

We now follow a DPA by Fritz:

49.Bxb3 axb3; 50.Rxh4 Rxg2+!;
This is the most accurate, Black has to get as many Pawns off the board as possible.

<(Probably worse was: 50...Kc6?!; 51.Rg4 Kd5; 52.Kxb3

when White should win, he will have two, connected passed pawns in the endgame. )>

51.Kxb3 Re2; 52.a4 Rxe5; 53.Kc4 Kb6; 54.Rh6+ Kc7; 55.a5 Kb7; 56.h4 Re4+!; 57.Kxc5, "+4.73" - Fritz 13. Despite the winning evaluation by Fritz, (and many other engines!); its a draw ... see any tablebase for confirmation.

[ http://www.shredderchess.com/online.... ] ]

Feb-22-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: By the way, the last link works, but you actually have to <(manually)> set up the desired position.


click for larger view

This is my analysis position, after 57.Kxc5, above.

Feb-23-14
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  Ulhumbrus: <LIFE Master AJ: The actual game position after 48.h6+!

Below is my analysis - which pretty much proves that <csmath> was correct, Black can draw ... with best play.

[ It is almost unbelievable, but Black may have had a draw with an endgame that is really amazing, almost like a composed study. (It is based on the endgame with two Rook-Pawns, the side with the extra Pawns cannot win.)

Much better was: >/= 48...Kc7!!;

A drawing resource <(initially)> missed by me, (using several engines); and just about everyone else.

We now follow a DPA by Fritz:

49.Bxb3 axb3; 50.Rxh4 Rxg2+!;
This is the most accurate, Black has to get as many Pawns off the board as possible.

<(Probably worse was: 50...Kc6?!; 51.Rg4 Kd5; 52.Kxb3

when White should win, he will have two, connected passed pawns in the endgame. )>

51.Kxb3 Re2; 52.a4 Rxe5; 53.Kc4 Kb6; 54.Rh6+ Kc7; 55.a5 Kb7; 56.h4 Re4+!; 57.Kxc5, "+4.73" - Fritz 13. Despite the winning evaluation by Fritz, (and many other engines!); its a draw ... see any tablebase for confirmation.

[ http://www.shredderchess.com/online.... ] ]
> If this is so it suggests that Anand's endgame technique was inadequate and that he has a great deal of work to do in the endgame.

Feb-23-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: I have seen the endgame of K+R vs. K+R & 2 RP's many times. (I once saw a GM win it.) I won it in a tournament game vs. Ross Sprague - as Black. Again, it is SUPPOSED to be a dead draw, but drawing that ending is really tough.

Few people study it, although I have, albeit many years ago. Its like the ending of K+R vs. K+R+B. (I have played that a few times, as well. I once beat Kerry Leahy at the Queen of Hearts as White in that endgame as White.)

A lot of people never seriously study these rare endgames, your chances of actually playing it are probably VERY small.

Feb-23-14
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  john barleycorn: <<Premium Chessgames Member by courtesy of John Barleycorn><LIFE Master AJ>: I have seen the endgame of K+R vs. K+R & 2 RP's many times. (I once saw a GM win it.) I won it in a tournament game vs. Ross Sprague - as Black. Again, it is SUPPOSED to be a dead draw, but drawing that ending is really tough.

Few people study it, although I have, albeit many years ago. Its like the ending of K+R vs. K+R+B. (I have played that a few times, as well. I once beat Kerry Leahy at the Queen of Hearts as White in that endgame as White.)

A lot of people never seriously study these rare endgames, your chances of actually playing it are probably VERY small.>>

What is your message???

Feb-23-14
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  Check It Out: The way Carlsen maneuvered his king around Anand's queenside attack made me think of guiding thread through a needle eye.
Feb-24-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: Agreed. Only Carlsen seemed to have a real mastery of this endgame, he knew exactly what he wanted to do and made it happen!
Apr-09-14  joddon: 38 ....e5 huge blunder....magnus will take his pieces anywhere and everywhere on the board to get firepower....not like a little kid he does not need to achknowledge a winning side.....its like second nature to him, if one side is winning he will recognize it immediately and knows what comes next without any thought......but until then he slides his bishops and knights and rooks all over the place until something strange happens the stops like a lion and eats away.!!great to be this talented, but anand is like a mouse and getting eatin up by the cat by following into his trap...hes gonna do this again and again in 2014 too....its coming and gonna be crazy to see.....note :to bring back the knight to c3 takes skill, he is alert that anand is putting his pieces where they wont combine for an attack, hence , n(g4)xe3, is really using up a knight for a lousy bishop....meanwhile magnus has every move accounted for, even centralizing his n and b on moves 18 and 19...then keeping forces lined up until...this is where he practices his moves...18 and 19 are his fatal decsions, and no one can win.
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