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|Dec-30-06|| ||KTR: According to Jeff Sonas' retrospective ratings, Berthold Lasker reached No. 7 in the world rankings, and was in the top 10 for several years. Nowadays we would consider him one of the super GMs. I think we would hear a lot more about his career if he had not had such a famous and successful younger brother.|
|Mar-25-07|| ||James Demery: This guy should have stayed away from Tarrasch and left him to his younger brother. I could imagine Berthold telling Tarrasch " I`m gonna tell my little brother on you."|
|Aug-28-07|| ||Karpova: <<In the name of Hippocrates, doctors have invented the most exquisite form of torture ever known to man: survival.>|
(Luis Buñuel (1900-1983), Spanish filmmaker. My Last Sigh, ch. 21 (1983).)>
http://www.poemhunter.com/quotation... (Quote number 8)
|Jun-05-09|| ||myschkin: . . .
He spent most of his life in Berlin, where he played in local tournaments. In 1881 he shared 1st with Siegbert Tarrasch , and took 2nd, behind Curt von Bardeleben, there. In 1883, he tied for 1st-4th and took 4th (playoff) - Hermann Von Gottschall won. In 1887, he tied for 5-6th (Max Harmonist won).
His best achievement was a tie for 1st place with his brother Emanuel Lasker at Berlin 1890. He took 2nd, behind Horatio Caro, at Berlin 1891. He took 10th at Berlin 1898/99 (Theodor Von Scheve, Emil Schallopp and Horatio Caro won).
In 1902 Lasker won the New York State championship.
He and his brother Emanuel wrote a drama called "Days of Mankind". It contained deep philosophical symbolism, and the theme was "redemption for rationalists and rigid logic truth through the emotional powers of mysticism."
|Dec-31-12|| ||brankat: R.I.P. Herr Lasker.|
|May-17-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <In 1902 Lasker won the New York State championship.>|
That was news to me, but apparently he planned to settle in New York at the time. This is from the "Brooklyn Daily Eagle", August 3, 1902:
<"While one of the famous Lasker brothers thinks of heading this way in the near future the other one--Dr. Berthold, the champion of the New York State Chess Association--is about to forsake this country and return to his home in Germany. This, too, will be a great surprise to chess players in general, who had supposed him to be a fixture here. That really was his intention, when he came over and settled down, but, after passing the necessary state medical examinations and establishing a practice as a specialist in skin diseases, he feels obliged to abandon it on account of his own health. Having contracted malaria some time ago his physical condition has been very unsatisfactory ever since, so much so that he feels departure to another clime to be the only cure. Dr. lasker is a highly esteemed member of the Manhattan Chess Club and his genial disposition has made him a great favorite there, as well as in other circles he has visited. His departure, therefore, will be a distinct loss.">
Looking elsewhere, his sojourn appears to have lasted from December 6, 1901, to August 16, 1902.
|May-17-13|| ||TheFocus: It's nice to know this about Berthold Lasker. I wish more of his games were available.|
Emanuel once remarked that Berthold was a stronger player than himself.
|Dec-31-14|| ||Phony Benoni: Hmmm. Emanuel was born on December 24th, Berthold on December 31st.|
That must have been a really dull household for 51 weeks of the year.
|Dec-31-15|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday to the big brother of the greatest chess player of all time.|
|Jun-17-17|| ||MissScarlett: <According to Jeff Sonas' retrospective ratings, Berthold Lasker reached No. 7 in the world rankings, and was in the top 10 for several years.>|
He may have been one of the best players in Berlin for some time.
|Mar-07-18|| ||zanzibar: <Do you remember the age of the chess players of that time? |
-Curt von Bardeleben19, Berthold Lasker 20, Wilhelm Cohn-21, Max Harmonist 16, Emanuel Lasker, 12. I turned 18. At the beginning of the year 1880, several of us, mostly students, used to meet at a café in Berin. We spent the evenings playing chess or analyzing interesting positions. Based on Steinitz's ideas, we created our own style.
-A friend and companion in my escapades of those years. Lasker an excellent and powerful chess player For his little fortune he rarely excelled in the tournament due to his nervousness.>
Tarrasch on Bethold...
|Apr-09-18|| ||Telemus: Who gave the advice to distrust everything that contains direct speech?|
|Apr-09-18|| ||zanzibar: <Telemus> can you better frame your comment?|
|Apr-10-18|| ||Telemus: <z> Of course, if I know which aspect of the question is unclear to you.|
|Apr-10-18|| ||zanzibar: <Telemus> OK, we can do a <What's My Line> exchange on this...|
Let me start the general questioning:
<Was your question rhetorical?>
|Apr-11-18|| ||Telemus: <z> Definitely not! |
If you search for 'direct speech' at Winter's Chess Notes, then you'll get a few interesting hits and a slight impression on his opinion about that, I would say. But I don't know whether this is only the result of his antipathy to some people's handling of anecdotes or a more general rule.
|Apr-11-18|| ||zanzibar: <Telemus> given that your question wasn't rhetorical, then we can assume the "who" doesn't refer to Winter.|
Why pose this question in B Lasker's page then, is there some connection with Berthold with regards to "direct speak"?
|Apr-22-18|| ||zanzibar: RE: antipathy to anecdotes...
There are a few seminal anecdotes that are mandatory entries in the canon:
Tarrasch - "Check and mate"
Nimzowitsch - "Why must I lose to this idiot!?"
Bernstein - "Am I not a chess idiot?"
Hooper & Whyld (1984) p30
Of course these unsubstantiated quotes are too enjoyable to omit, and are likely correct, if not entirely in wording, than in spirit.
|Apr-22-18|| ||zanzibar: If <Hooper & Whyld> use anecdotes...|
Winter's view of the above:
1) Tarrasch - C.N. 5707 (not entirely helpful for English speakers to end the lineage with an untranslated DSZ scan)
2) Nimzowitsch - C.N. 5019
3) Bernstein - ????
|May-21-19|| ||DiscoJew: Lets give this man his ELO credit already!|
|May-21-19|| ||HeMateMe: The return of Disco Jew! Where have you been, mate?|
|Jul-20-19|| ||MissScarlett: <The relationship with his wife was unhappy. In 1899, they had a son, the paternity of which his wife denied him in court, which the district court found credible. Lasker-Schüler accused her husband of violence, and in 1903 they were divorced.>|
The reference is Kamm's biography of Tarrasch. Come on, somebody dish the dirt.
|Jul-20-19|| ||Telemus: The text is almost complete. Earlier this year, in occasion of Lasker-Schüler's 150th birthday, another aspect of this paternity was emphasized: Lasker recognized this child as his, though he knew he was not the father (German radio).|
|Jul-20-19|| ||MissScarlett: Anybody thinking what I'm thinking? Berty was cuckolded by Manny...|
|Jul-20-19|| ||MissScarlett: Else's son, Paul, was born on August 24th 1899; average gestation time is ~38 weeks. That would put the time of conception about the very end of November; even if overdue, practically impossible to have been before the middle of November.|
Lasker was on tour in the UK from the first week of November, where he remained until the middle of January, at least.
So it looks as if I may owe Lasker an apology......hmmmm, anyone know Tarrasch's whereabouts?
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