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| Sep-07-03 | | bunti: Are there people here who play on playchess.com and are interested in playing in a kings gambit theme tournament? |
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| Oct-23-03 | | KGB: Can anyone tell me about the line in Fischer's Defense of the KGA. After 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d6 4.d4 g5, what is the best move? is h4 g4 Ng1 best? I was looking at 5.Bc4 g4?, where Nc3 appears to be good. If not 5...g4, then Bg7 or h6, and then white must play g3 soon? (a holy looking move. So is it alrighit? or should i stick with the main line 5. h4 |
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| Jan-22-04 | | torros: I've read a comment in Kibitz that White Players playing the Kings
Gambit accepted fear Black playing 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Qh4+ why fear it?
White can respond with 3.g3 and get a strong push against Black? Some moves from a game I played as white tonight against a
guy on a chess server (won in 37)
1. e4 e5 2. f4 Qh4+ 3. g3 Qf6 4. d4 exf4 5. Bxf4 Nc6 6. Nf3 Bb4+
7. c3 Ba5 8. e5 Qd8 9. d5 Nce7 10. Qd4 b6 11. Bd3 Bb7 I don't think Qh4+ can't be all bad news for White he still has
iniative....... |
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| Jan-22-04 | | skeet: I'm an intermediate player, and this is my main opening. I would recommend it to anyone below master level (where it may or may not be totally sound, although I know a few masters have employed it as a "surprise opening" to great effect, and it certainly fits the "surprise" role) as a very exiting, natural gambit in which many of the ideas and main lines are intuitive and easy to learn. torros: I agree, 2. Qh4+ is a nonissue. Although the White King is out in the open in many (perhaps most) positions following this opening, "cheap" Black checks rarely have much viability. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | torros: "although I know a few masters have employed it as a "surprise opening" to great effect, and it certainly fits the "surprise" role) as a very exiting, natural gambit in which many of the ideas and main lines are intuitive and easy to learn" I play the Kings Gambit alot myself but the Vienna Gambit seems to me a more modern approach 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 2.f4 it's Kings Gambit minus the problems & defects of the Opening. Play is quite violent with alot
of tactics. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: The vienna gambit isnt bad but to say its
"the Kings gambit minus the problems" is ridiculous. 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3
Nf6 ( not Nc6 ) 3.f4 d5 as played by Lasker and Schlecter
against one of the leading authorities of the Vienna gambit,
Wilhelm Steinitz. Steinitz vs Lasker 0-1 Steinitz vs Schlecter 0-1.
The vienna gambit will NEVER be the Kings gambit. Such an early
queen knight move in most Kings gambit variations are useless,
considering one of the biggest reasons your giving up your f pawn is for
rapid Kingside development! Castling to put the rook on the open
f-file should be one of the highest priorities. The early queen
knight move in the vienna, does not work towards this goal. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: KGB I would recommend 4.Bc4 g4 5.h5 g5
6.Ng5. With the variation you recommended the Knight has no useful advance, and must retreat or be given up for development+2 pawns ( which is what I would do in this position). However if you play 4.Bc4,and 5.h5 the knight will have a post on g5 working with the bishop to put pressure on the f pawn. See Morphys
Kings gambit games. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | Catfriend: KGB means? I know I'm stupid... but I'm tired and I couldn't find the meaning:) |
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| Jan-23-04 | | bilikidder: <Catfriend> If you're referring to KGB itself and not an ambiguous statement on KGB's part, then the KGB is the former Soviet Union's equivalent of the CIA. Putin is infamous for once having been a KGB agent. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | Catfriend: I know what's KGB in the real world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm from Russia!
But when Inspired said KGB what did he mean?! The Soviet Commitee for National Security?! I am sure Putin would be happy to know how to play the king's gambit... |
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| Jan-23-04 | | bilikidder: Lol, that's why I worded my statement the way I did. Your statement is still ambiguous. |
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| Jan-23-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: Catfriend you are not stupid. I should have said "in reference to your question KGB..." KGB asked a question involving a certain variation ( scroll up four kibitzes before me and you'll see the question. :) |
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| Jan-23-04 | | bilikidder: Lol, I think you need to scroll up and see who "KGB" is. |
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| Jan-24-04 | | Catfriend: :) Thank you all:) I must go and replace my eyes... <KGB> I'm sorry for not noticing your kibitz |
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| Jan-24-04 | | torros: "1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 ( not Nc6)"
Yes you are correct about Nf6 I found the move Nc6 skimming Graham Burgess's Mamouth Book of Chess Page 148 the position in the diagram shows a Knight on c6 and the description of the Vienna follows: "This is an offshoot of the Vienna
Game in which white argues that the
moves Nc3 and Nc6 gives him an
improved version of the Kings
Gambit."
There is more than one source that call the Vienna Gambit an improved Kings Gambit on the web BTW The ChessVille instruction Websight for example at: http://www.chessville.com/instructi...
instr_open_rep_attack.htm
"There are a variety of ways to play the Vienna Game; however, I recommend the aggressive 3. f4 variation, which is a sort of improved King’s Gambit," |
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| Jan-24-04 | | zorro: <torros> As InspiredByMorphy already pointed out the Vienna being an improved form of the KG must be referred only to those lines of the Vienna where Black plays ...Nc6. <...white argues that the
moves Nc3 and Nc6 gives him an
improved version of the Kings
Gambit>: precisely, but this is not the whole Vienna, 2...Nf6 being the more contesting option of the Vienna allowing the counter 3...d5 on 2. f4 |
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| Mar-23-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: I just looked in the opening explorer and was very surprised at what I found concerning the following variation. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 g5 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.O-O g4! There is only one game with 5.g4 Whites knight has no choice but retreat to e1 or be sacrificed, but with blacks bishop on g7, this muzio-like position doesen't yield the same kind of attack. With such a predicament, I dont understand why 5.g4 hasen't been played more. Opening Explorer |
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| Mar-23-04 | | ruylopez900: It's too bad today's players seemed to have shunned the King's Gambit, it produces some extremely interesting games. |
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| Mar-23-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: <ruylopez900> I couldn't agree more. It
is still my favorite opening years after discovering it. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | PaulKeres: There's a guy at my chess club who plays nothing else than King's gambit after 1. e4 e5. He does very well with it. He says that Black should always accept the pawn, anyone out there frustrate white by always declining? if so what are the best follow up moves for black in a declined? |
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| Mar-25-04 | | drukenknight: Hey wouldnt happen to be Boris Spassky would he? |
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| Mar-25-04 | | unsound: You can decline the gambit solidly with the classical defense 1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6--personally I then play 4.c3 as white, which you can respond to pretty solidly with Nf6, or very sharply with f5!?
Of course you could also consider offering a counter-gambit--the Falkbeer counter-gambit with 2...d5 3.exd5 e4, or the Nimzowitch counter gambit with 2...d5 and 3...c6. That might irritate white--who after all is trying to be the one to give up material for the initiative. That's what I play (though I only ever get to the black side of a King's gambit via 1.f4 e5 2.e4). |
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| Mar-25-04 | | square dance: i pretty much always play the kings gambit in 2 or 3 minute blitz games. when people decline the gambit i just continue with natural development. as a matter of fact i just got done beating someone 2-1 with it right before i came here. |
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| Apr-04-04 | | ruylopez900: The Gambit is great if your opponent wants to playing for draw for 1st in the tournament. Instead its time for him to think in one heck of an exciting game that will certainly aggravate him :D |
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| Apr-04-04 | | acirce: Well, actually if I were playing for a draw as black I would love it if my opponent played such a stupid opening, throwing away white's advantage. Just know your theory and black can expect to come out at least as fine as in other openings. |
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