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| Jun-05-22 | | Albertan: Sultan Khan-greatest chess hero in undivided India: https://www.siasat.com/sultan-khan-... |
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| Jun-24-22 | | adbat: As Capablanca said, Mir Sultan Khan was a chess genius, a natural talent, a unique case in chess. |
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| Feb-21-23 | | Mississaugan: Could we have a picture of Mr. Sultan Khan, the legendary chess wizard from India. |
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| Feb-21-23 | | stone free or die: <Mississaugan: Could we have a picture of Mr. Sultan Khan, the legendary chess wizard from India.> I heartily second this suggestion.
(What an oversight on <CG>'s part) |
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Feb-21-23
 | | jnpope: I thought we had a picture up years ago...
I checked Wikipedia and their source for the image they use is CG from 2008! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:... Not sure why CG took it down. Was there a copyright violation in play? |
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| Feb-22-23 | | stone free or die: <<jn> Was there a copyright violation in play?> Likely yes, as per your link (just scroll down a little): <This work is copyrighted (or assumed to be copyrighted) and unlicensed. It does not fall into one of the blanket acceptable non-free content categories listed at Wikipedia:Non-free content
§ Images or Wikipedia:Non-free content
§ Audio clips,
and it is not covered by a more specific non-free content license listed at Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright templates. However, it is believed that the use of this work: • To illustrate the subject in question
• Where no free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information • On the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Non-free content and Wikipedia:Copyrights.> Since <CG> is a for-profit website, they (we?) don't get a "fair-use" pass. I like the one used here now almost as much - just wish we captioned not only the source, but the photograph context (e.g. what trophy, when taken, etc.) . |
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Feb-22-23
 | | Sally Simpson: The trophy is for winning the British Championship. https://www.britishchesschampionshi... |
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| Feb-22-23 | | stone free or die: Yes, but it would be nice to have that in the photo caption instead of the comments (where it will ultimately be washed away upon the rocky shoals and out to sea!). |
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| Feb-22-23 | | Mississaugan: Thanks CG! now we have the photo of Mr Sultan Khan in place! |
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May-29-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Afternoon: The New York Times website has an ongoing series called "Overlooked No More," a collection of obituaries for people whom the Times should have honored decades or centuries ago. They might have a paywall (darn it), but they just published a nice one of Sultan Khan. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/27/... |
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| Jul-12-23 | | arifattar: Came across this Twitter thread by an account named howlingmadbanji: The amazing Women Chess player you've never heard of: Miss Fatima. thread 1
Fatima arrives in England from Punjab with Sir Umar and Sultan Khan (already a great Chess champion). She learns the rules of chess at 20, in 1932 after a year of playing scores 6.5/11 at the British Champ, and a year later absolutely MOPS UP the opposition with 10.5/11 2/5
She's hailed as the next Vera Menchik (with whom she trained) but sadly returns to Punjab in 1933 and never plays chess again. Menchick died in 1944 in London Clapham in a V1 rocket bombing. 4/5
She was filmed in 1978 in a documentary about Sultan Khan and talks about playing & trash-talking Churchill & trying to teach chess to the Queen!!
(Sir Umar definitely was friends with the royal household so no reason to doubt these) 5/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHA... |
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| Aug-06-23 | | ADmightywarriorIN: This man deserves posthumous GM title! |
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Jan-25-24
 | | perfidious: This may well be somewhere in the kibitzing for this brilliant master, but i do not propose to plough through all the content and will simply post the following link, a treasure trove of photos and information on Sultan Khan: https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... |
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Feb-03-24
 | | kingscrusher: Mir Sultan Khan has been awared the Chess Grandmaster title: https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comm... |
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Feb-05-24
| | kingscrusher: FIDE news confirms:
https://www.fide.com/news/2873 |
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| Feb-05-24 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: Better late than never! Without any doubts, a player, who beat J. R. Capablanca, S. Flohr, A. Rubinstein, F. Marshall, and S. Tartakower and drew against A. Alekhine, and M. Euwe, deserves the grandmaster title very much. |
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Feb-05-24
 | | FSR: About time! FIDE should have awarded him the title on its original list in 1950. |
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Feb-05-24
| | perfidious: <FSR>, given their position on posthumously awarding titles in 1950, it is understandable that FIDE chose not to bestow GM on all the former world champions amongst others, as well as Bogolyubov, due to Soviet influence at that time; but the omission of this players and others who might well have been named is incomprehensible. |
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Feb-05-24
 | | Williebob: A detail from the chess.com report: <Khan's granddaughter Atiyab Sultan commented to Chess.com... the correct name of her grandfather is Mian Sultan Khan, saying: "Mir was added erroneously by western writers."> |
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Feb-05-24
| | FSR: <perfidious> FIDE denied the title to Efim Bogoljubov on its original 1950 list. I've seen little if any discussion of this, but it must have been because of his support of Hitler. It did award him the title the following year, a year before he died in 1952. Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine, Nimzowitsch, Tarrasch, etc. are in a different category from Sultan Khan because they, unlike him, died before 1950. SK lived until 1966. I also see that FIDE awarded him the title of "Honorary Grandmaster." Not sure the significance of that. He deserves the GM title with no qualifications. |
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Feb-05-24
| | perfidious: It seems that Bogolyubov was regarded as 'politically compromised' in 1950 and, unlike Alekhine, had to wait until the onset of perestroika to be 'rehabilitated'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efim_... |
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Feb-05-24
| | FSR: <perfidious> Un-fun fact: you and I are now older than Bogo and Sultan Khan were when they died. |
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Feb-05-24
| | perfidious: <FSR>, same as poker, this game is sedentary and takes its toll at an earlier age than might otherwise prove true if such things as exercise are left unattended. Two world champions left us at 53, two more at 55 and a further pair at that fateful age of 64. |
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Feb-05-24
 | | Check It Out: Addressing the small elephant in the room, should Sultan Khan's name be changed from Mir to Mian? |
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| Feb-05-24 | | Ninas Husband: I prefer his brother, Genghis! :) |
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