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May-21-14 | | zanzibar: With all due respect, <He owned the finest private chess library in the World >, is a little extreme as an absolute statement of fact. Trying to be equally fair-minded as the subject, I think <one of the finest> would make an agreeable substitute. Agreed? |
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May-22-14
 | | perfidious: <zanzibar> May I suggest the following? <what was considered one of the finest> |
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May-22-14 | | zanzibar: <perfidious> That's works nicely. Although I don't mind a spot of hyperbole in the kibitzing, I tend modesty (and accuracy) in the "official" section. I'm bouncing around doing the name stuff at the moment and bounced over here. I finally looked at the wiki source ('cause if you do claim a 'the' <best> extremum, it should be sourced after all), and here is what it said: <It was reputed that he owned the largest known private chess library in the world,[3]> A clever way to state the claim. Their source? Oxford Companion. |
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May-22-14
 | | perfidious: <zanzibar> Agreed: whatever happens in the kibitzing, objectivity should be striven for in the bios. |
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May-28-14 | | zanzibar: <perfidious> What happens in the kibitz stays in the kibitz (or should that be kibbutz?) Anyways, I looked into this a little more, and discovered that Oxford Companion (1e) did make an absolute statement in regards to L. Schmid's library: <A collector of chess paraphernalia and books, he has the largest private chess library in the world> Last sentence in his entry, from the 1984 (1e p297-298 hbk) Hooper and Whyld book. Now it's hard to argue with such distinguished, and usually careful, authors - but it still strikes me as a rather bold statement of fact. I wonder if it remained in the 2e? |
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May-28-14
 | | paulalbert: That Lothar had the largest private collection was a claim he personally made. He made it to me when I had breakfast with him in NY about 8 years ago. As I remember the conversation, he also said it was bigger than some of the well known collections in public libraries, Cleveland , OH, e.g. Note that this relates to number of items; Lothar's collection was very comprehensive, highly valuable along with less valuable, and apparently included more than one of many items. The mixture of the rare with the mundane from what I have read is an issue in disposing of the collection as a whole rather than piecemeal. I have no idea where the Schmid family's sale efforts stand at this point. |
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May-28-14
 | | tamar: Dirk Jan Ten Geuzendam wrote a diplomatic piece in New in Chess about his visit to the library after Schmid's death. The gist, without the diplomacy, was that a large percentage of the collection was junk, and that the truly valuable parts, which he did not deny, could be confined to one room. A bigger objection to sale was that Schmid had always resisted making an inventory catalog, and the family afterwards could not/ or would not provide one to a seller either. |
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May-28-14 | | zanzibar: Here I find another parallel between the world of chess and jazz. I once knew a man with an extensive, and fine, collection of LP's - including many original pressings. This was an individual who had actually heard Charlie Parker perform live. He well knew jazz, and could write well about it as well. But his days were drawing down, and he wondered what he should do with his collection. Since he had no close relatives who knew the value of such records, I advised him to liquidate all but his most favorite recordings. That way, he would benefit his beloved wife the most; both by relieving her of a job she was unqualified for, and by maximizing the financial return on his collection. He didn't know the business end at first, but he had both the brains and the music knowledge to learn very quickly. It turns out that he really didn't need my advice, since he had basically already decided the same. But he was surprised to realize that selling his collection piecemeal to different dealers offered the better return than selling it as a complete package to one dealer. That, despite the fact that the majority of his collection was essentially non-convertible, and ended up being donated to a local library. (His original pressings of Blue Note records were the most valuable) His wife would never have the patience to do all the work necessary to sort out the collection, and would have squandered the most valuable by selling the entire lot as a unit. Even if properly inventoried. Of course it was sad for him to sell off such a fine collection. But he did have fun making the many trips to the various record dealers throughout the city. Of course, that was in the days that cities still had record shops. |
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Mar-31-15 | | Brown: Request for a photo just of Schmid for his page. |
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Mar-31-15 | | offramp: <Brown: Request for a photo just of Schmid for his page.> Take an A4 piece of paper and cut a 2cm x 2cm hole in the centre of it. Hold that piece of paper up to your computer screen so that Schmid's face appears in the hole. Sorted! |
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Aug-07-15
 | | MissScarlett: <Dirk Jan Ten Geuzendam wrote a diplomatic piece in New in Chess about his visit to the library after Schmid's death.> <In November 2014, DeLucia visited Schmid’s house. This visit has led to the publication of Seven Days in Bamberg – The Best of the Lothar Schmid Collection. For almost anybody, this brandnew luxury book will be a first opportunity to see the highlights of Schmid’s collection, as the German was always quite secretive and never published a catalogue or any other publication on his library.> |
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May-16-18 | | Senk: https://de.chessbase.com/post/lotha... |
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Oct-16-19 | | Brown: Lets get Fischer off of Schmid's page. |
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Sep-20-21
 | | fredthebear: 5/10/2008 article: https://en.chessbase.com/post/lotha... |
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Jun-19-22
 | | Dionysius1: As <HeMateMe> pointed out on 20130521 here on page 2 Lothar Schmid
, Lothar Schmid was also arbiter at the Fischer Spassky rematch in 1992. It would be good to recognise 1992 as well in the biography above. |
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Oct-17-22 | | Chessist: Lothar Schmid did not participate in 1972 FRG-ch 12th. Those games were played by Schmid, Wolfgang (b 1941). |
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Oct-17-22
 | | Stonehenge: I need a source to change it.
I can find https://www.teleschach.de/historie/.... Di Felice also has Lothar but gives ChessBase as the source, which isn't exactly reliable. |
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Oct-17-22 | | Chessist: Schmid-Rausis, Hilton Open 1999, was played by Schmid, Roland, and not by Schmid, Lothar. http://altdwz.schachbund.net/turnie.... |
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Oct-17-22
 | | whiteshark: Chessbase Mega Database (2019) has Wolfgang Schmid playing <GER-ch53 (FRG-11)> in Oberursel in 1972. There he played 4 C00 games whereas Lothar Schmid never played it, except for L Schmid vs D Keller, 1969 based on cg-db. Shared 15th-23rd place would probably be his worst tournament, while seeded 1st. |
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Oct-18-22
 | | Stonehenge: Thanks, it has been changed. |
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Oct-19-22 | | Chessist: L. Schmid-Gilg, 1972 Rosenheim Stadtmeisterschaft: according to "Karl Gilg" by Schmitzer/Wimmer, p 89, Gilg's opponent was a certain "D. Schmid", so definitely not Lothar Schmid. |
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Oct-22-22 | | Chessist: Lothar Schmid - Helmuth Lietz, corr 1974: according to Fernschach 1974, p. 245, White was "H. Schmidt". Game was played in a GDR corr tournament and continued like this: 14.Bb5+ Kf8 15.Rf1+ Kg8 16.Be2 Bxe2 17.Kxe2 exd4 18.Rf7 Nc3+ 19.Kf2 Qe2+ 20.Kg3 Ne4+ 21.Kf4 g5+ 0:1. None of the corr games since 1969 was played by Lothar Schmid. |
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Oct-22-22
 | | Stonehenge: H Schmidt vs Lietz, 1974. But please use correction slips next time.
Every game has <Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.> |
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Oct-22-22 | | Z free or die: I like seeing the corrections in the comment stream (though I guess in this case the comment best belongs on the game page). You see when it was made, by who, and what it was - in full detail. It would be nice to find a way to automate a correction slip submission via a comment post. It would also be nice to document, in the comment stream or via a history list, the changes made to a game. . |
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Oct-24-22 | | Chessist: Szilagyi-Lothar Schmid, corr 1969: according to Fernschach 1972, p 232, Black was Peter Schmidt (Berllin). Game ended with 14...Bd4+ 0:1. |
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