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Jun-11-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: Full name of this player is Emanuel Stepanovich Schiffers. |
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Jun-11-04 | | zb2cr: Schiffers seems to have been a very poor player against the highest-level players of his day: Tarrasch beat him 6-0, with one draw; Chigorin 19-4, with 4 draws, etc. |
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Nov-09-04 | | marekg248: I study Evans gambit and I stumbled upon this guy three times - twice in Pachman's book on open games:
Chigorin vs Schiffers, 1897
Schiffers vs Pillsbury, 1896
and in Chess miniatures by Abram Rojzman (not in the database):
Schiffers-Yurevich Peterburg 1892
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.0-0 Qf6 7.d4 Nh6 8.Bg5 Qg6 9.d5 Nd8 10.Bxd8 Kxd8 11.Nxe5 Qxe4 12.Re1 Qh4 13.d6! cxd6 14.Qxd6 Bc7? 15.Qxh6! Qxc4 16.Qh4!! 1-0
Marks are from the book. It seems to me that he was a decent player after all. Does anybody know something more about him? Honza, zda sa, ze ty mas celkom peknu zbierku knih o sachu:) |
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Nov-10-04 | | Calli: This bio is from the 1895 Hastings tournament book:
"Russian chess master; born of German parents at St. Petersburg May 4, 1850; died there Dec. 12, 1904. He was educated at the gymnasium of his native city, studying in the classical, physical, and mathematical faculties. In 1871 he became a private tutor." "Schiffers began to play chess when about fifteen, and within five years had made such progress that he defeated Tochoumoff and others of equal standing. He continued to advance until he became the leading player in Russia. In 1873 he first played with Tchigorin, to whom he then gave the odds of a knight. During the following seven years the pupil came to play a stronger game than his teacher, and in 1880 Schiffers lost the championship of Russia to Tchigorin. He has won matches against Alapin, Chardin, and Mitropolsky; and at the International Tournament held at Hastings, England, in 1895, at which twenty-two masters competed, Schiffers gained sixth prize." |
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Nov-10-04
 | | tamar: Sixth prize at Hastings 1895 behind Pillsbury, Chigorin, Lasker, Tarrasch and Steinitz. His game against Chigorin in round 4 was amazingly lopsided in his favor. Schiffers vs Chigorin, 1895 |
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Nov-13-04 | | marekg248: Thanks, it's interesting to know, that such a great player like Chigorin had a teacher. It is a necessity nowadays for players wanting to achieve success, but I used to think that until approximately the 1930's it was largely due to the natural endowment that players were strong. Did Capablanca have a teacher? Maybe not, and if so, maybe it was an exception. |
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Jun-01-05
 | | WTHarvey: Here are some puzzles from Emmanuel's games: http://www.wtharvey.com/sche.html |
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Oct-08-05
 | | Pawn and Two: Schiffers's complete tournament and match record (1875 - 1903) against Chigorin was 24 wins, 49 losses and 19 draws. A decent performance against a strong opponent.
This information is from the book - Mikhail Chigorin the first Russian Grandmaster - by Alexander Khailfman & Sergei Soloviov |
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Oct-08-05
 | | Pawn and Two: Important tournament results for Schiffers:
1887 - Frankfort - 10th +7 -7 =6
1889 - Breslau - 17th +3 -8 =6
1894 - Leipzig - 8/9th +5 -4 =8
1895 - Hastings - 6th +9 -9 =6
1896 - Nurnberg - 9/10th +5 -4 =9
1897 - Berlin - 11th +7 -6 =6
1898 - Vienna - 12th +13 -14 =10
1898 - Cologne - 10/11th +6 -7 =2 |
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Oct-08-05
 | | Pawn and Two: At Nurnberg 1896 Schiffers tied with Chigorin for 10/11th place. In addition to a very interesting draw with Chigorin, Schiffers scored draws against the 2nd place winner Maroczy, 6th place winner Steinitz and the 7/ 8th place winners Schlechter & Walbrodt. Even more notable was his win against the 3/4 place winner Pillsbury. His biggest opportunity of this tournament was in his 2nd round game against Lasker. Schiffers achieved a winning position against Lasker, but missed his way and lost the game. |
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Oct-08-05
 | | Pawn and Two: Last post should read - Schiffers tied for 9/10th with Chigorin at Nurnberg 1896. |
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Dec-22-06 | | ivanov90: http://www.e3e5.com/petersburg/hist...
This link is about Schiffers, unfortunatly only in russian |
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Jan-10-09 | | brankat: <Pawn and Two> <...Schiffers achieved a winning position against Lasker, but missed his way and lost the game...> Just about every other master had had this kind of experience when facing Dr.Lasker :-) |
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May-04-09 | | BIDMONFA: Emmanuel Schiffers SCHIFFERS, Emanuel
http://www.bidmonfa.com/schiffers_e...
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May-04-09 | | WhiteRook48: happy birthday! |
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Apr-13-10
 | | keypusher: From Tarrasch's 1906 article on Pillsbury, which also discussed other cases of mental illness among chessplayers. The full translation and German original are on the Tarrasch page. <The St. Petersburger Schiffers was broadly cultivated, highly intelligent man, with a splendid sense of humor <von prachtvollem Humor – maybe “splendid temperament” is better?>, a lively conversationalist, amiable in company <Verkehr>, in short, as the student song says, “a fellow like velvet and silk, the only harm, is that he drinks!” <”ein Kerl wie Samt und Seide, nur schade, dass er suff!”>. This he did with great consistency, and so it is no wonder, that he went to the madhouse several times, and a greater or shorter time after his release, each time relapsed. His disease was: alcoholic psychosis; chess had nothing to do with this. He never showed any particular strain playing chess; rather in tournaments he always played well “con amore,” as if nothing were at stake <sondern spielte in Turnieren immer so recht con amore, als ob es um gar nichts ginge>. Nevertheless, he achieved well-known, beautiful successes <Gleichwohl hat er bekanntlich recht huebsche Erfolge erzielt>. His sympathetic personality was known to all who met him and remains in memory. Every man has weaknesses, and every man must die, one sooner, others later, one from this, others from that disease; in fact we all die – to Life! <Swachen hat jeder Mensch, und sterben muss ebenfalls jeder Mensch, die eine fruher, der andere spater, der eine an dieser, der andere an jener Krankheit, in Grunde genommen sterben wir alle – am Leben!>> |
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Nov-05-10
 | | GrahamClayton: <keypusher>From Tarrasch's 1906 article on Pillsbury, which also discussed other cases of mental illness among chessplayers. <keypusher>,
Here is a snippet from the New York Times, dated 4 February 1900,about Schiffer's non-attendance at the tournament in St Petersburg: "A notable absentee is Schiffers, second prize winner at Moscow, who has since been place in an asylum for the insane." |
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Nov-05-10
 | | keypusher: <GrahamClayton>
Thanks. Looking back at my ugly translation, it occurs to me that “con amore” probably meant "for love" rather than "with love." Tarrasch is saying that he played casually and easily in tournaments, as if in a skittles match. <nescio>, <whiteshark>, and anyone else who knows, any thoughts you have are welcome. |
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Nov-09-10 | | nescio: <keypusher: it occurs to me that “con amore” probably meant "for love" rather than "with love."> Could you explain what the differnce is between "for love" and "with love" in this case? I always have trouble with such prepositions in English and both phrases seem to have a similar meaning to me. That's also true for the last words "to life". Tarrasch is saying that life is always the cause of death (the dash is just there to indicate a short pause if you say it aloud). I would choose "from life" or "of life", whatever the usual phrase is in English, but perhaps "to life" also has a similar meaning with which I'm not familiar. It looks like a toast to life to me. |
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Mar-26-11 | | Marcelo Bruno: An interesting detail: his name in the English edition of the Hastings tournament in 1895 is written "Emanuel G. A. Schiffers". Really curious. |
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May-04-12 | | thomastonk: Tarrasch's sentence on Schiffers <”ein Kerl wie Samt und Seide, nur schade, dass er suff!”>, which is often cited, is taken from an old German student song. For convenience I repeat <keypusher's> translation from above: <“a fellow like velvet and silk, the only harm, is that he drinks!”>. |
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May-04-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Today you are remembered, Emmanuel Schiffers!
:) LTJ |
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Aug-14-12 | | Karpova: <E. Schiffers, welcher nach dem Moskauer Turnier von einer hochgradigen Aufregung befallen wurde und in eine Nervenheilanstalt gebracht werden musste, befindet sich nach der "St. Petersburger Zeitung" in einem Zustande, der leider keine Hoffnung auf Genesung bietet. Alle Schachfreunde, speciell jene, welche Gelegenheit hatten, den hochbegabten, liebenswürdigen russischen Meister kennen zu lernen, werden diese Nachricht mit tiefer Theilnahme lesen.> From page 13 of the 1900 'Wiener Schachzeitung' |
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May-04-13 | | brankat: R.I.P. master Schiffers. |
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Jun-04-13
 | | keypusher: <nescio>
<Could you explain what the differnce is between "for love" and "with love" in this case? I always have trouble with such prepositions in English and both phrases seem to have a similar meaning to me.> Sorry, I never answered this. There is an idiomatic expression "for love" (as opposed to "for money," I think) which simply means playing without stakes. I think it has more or less fallen out of use, in the United States at least. |
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