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   Jun-07-15 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <zanzibar: Since I'm an adviser to editors, rather than an editor, I'm unfamiliar with what exactly editors can do.> I want to bring this post to your attention again: Biographer Bistro (kibitz #10966) It explains what editors can do and what not.
 
   May-31-15 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <chessgames.com> Maybe you overlooked this post Biographer Bistro (kibitz #11028) , since the Bistro has become rather fast-paced. An answer would be interesting to several people.
 
   May-29-15 WCC Editing Project chessforum (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <Chessical> Thank you very much for your contribution(s)! We hope that you will support us in the future, also. For sure, you have helped us quite a lot already. The draft in question is already finished and was send away, though. It is still a valuable source and
 
   Apr-01-15 Moscow (1925) (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <Capablanca> on his experience at <Moscow 1925>: <"Although very philosophical, very observant and completely dispassionate in my judgment about everything concerning chess and its great exponents, I was nonetheless <<<unable to ...
 
   Mar-08-15 Tabanus chessforum (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: Ribli - Torre Candidates Quarterfinal (1983) Audiovisual aid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8G...
 
   Mar-08-15 Alekhine - Bogoljubov World Championship Match (1929) (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <beatgiant> In case you want to read further on this topic, I have prepared a sourced timeline that summarizes the <Alekhine-Capablanca> rematch negotiations from 26 Feb 1929 - March 1935: Game Collection: WCC: Alekhine-Bogoljubov 1934 ARCHIVE
 
   Jan-29-15 suenteus po 147 chessforum (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <One Third of the original "Big Three"> I beg your pardon! I'm on vacation in Canada, and I just now saw your post in the WCC forum. By "we" I meant the cg.com biographers, not the WCC project. All of the research compiled for additions to your intro was done by ...
 
   Nov-23-14 R Fuchs vs Tal, 1969 (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <MC Scarlett> If so, very very quietly...
 
   Nov-19-14 Alexander Alekhine (replies)
 
WCC Editing Project: <Karpova> Thanks for the correction! That sum makes more sense now in conjunction with the report on the organizers' losses. Good heavens- they can't have made much on ticket sales.
 
   Nov-17-14 E Walther vs Tal, 1966
 
WCC Editing Project: Queen trap Trick or Treat- this game was played on Halloween, 1966.
 
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Aug-01-13
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  WCC Editing Project: Speaking of "big" Capablanca, here he is taken down by another of the heroes in our current version of the 1934 "emerging stars" list:

Sultan Khan vs Capablanca, 1930

Aug-01-13  gauer: In Menu Configuration Page (adjustable as a profile preference for premium users), a user could add in something like:

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at the extras box for favourite customizable bookmarks. Hope that helps your navigating which you asked on Member support forum.

Aug-02-13
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  WCC Editing Project: Colleagues:

To make editing clearer and easier on our eyes, I have changed the typeface format for all of the Mirror intros.

<Original intro text> reproduced on the Mirror intros is now in smaller, italicized black text.

All <EDIT note> text on the Mirror intros is in larger font, not italicized, and in color.

Example: Game Collection: WCC: Lasker-Janowski 1910

Some of the <original text> in the mirror intros has already been edited, so if you want to see what has been changed already, you can compare the <mirror intro text> to the <original intro text>.

The <original intro text> can be found here: History of the World Chess Championship

Aug-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Colleagues>

Non-contractual "rematches" should be labeled "return matches," as here:

Botvinnik-Smyslov World Championship Return Match (1957)

So the following should also be re-labeled as "return matches":

Steinitz-Chigorin World Championship Rematch (1892)

Lasker-Steinitz World Championship Rematch (1896)

Alekhine-Bogoljubov World Championship Rematch (1934)

Whereas this one should remain labeled as a "rematch" because the match was contractually obligated in the first match:

Euwe-Alekhine World Championship Rematch (1937)

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: In addition- the URL link for this collection
Botvinnik-Smyslov World Championship Rematch (1958)

needs to be changed to <Smyslov-Botvinnik Rematch 1958>

In order to keep the consistent practice of putting the incumbent World Champion's name first.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: Ok now all the existing Mirror Collections have been edited to reflect this standard:

1. Incumbent champion's name first

2. Return Matches distinguished from Rematches.

In addition, all changes have been logged here: Game Collection: WCC: OVERALL INTRODUCTION

Aug-03-13  Boomie: <WCC Editing Project: Original intro text reproduced on the Mirror intros is now in smaller, italicized black text.>

This font is very difficult to read. Please make it larger.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Tim> There is no physical way to make the font larger on the Cg.com setting- but you can make it larger on your screen by adjusting your browser settings.

On Google Chrome, you just hit the control patch and you are given a 'zoom in -zoom out' menu.

Every browser has a page 'zoom in- zoom out' menu.

You could also just copy and past the italicized text onto a text document and manually enlarge it from there- on microsoft word, for example.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <The title of World Chess Champion is the embodiment of this notion.>

I dislike that sentence. I think "embodiment" and "notion" together are either too colloquial or trying too hard to sound high falutin'. At a bare minimum, "notion" should be changed to "idea".

<For many centuries, there was no formal world chess championship, but there were nonetheless a select few>

I think there's no need for the word "nonetheless".

<a select few who achieved fame for their ideas and successes over the chess board, and sometimes even for their writings.>

I see no need for the last clause. Many non-world champions achieved fame for their writings. If the idea is to express that some of the early players were considered World Champion based more on the writings they left us than the recorded games we have, then perhaps "a select few who achieved fame for their ideas and successes over the chess board, although some of the early champions are better known to us by their writings than their recorded games."

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <Although not held under the aegis of any official organization, most chess historians regard the Steinitz-Zukertort match as the first official World Chess Championship>

A footnote quoting someone, anyone, to that effect would be welcome.

<because it started a grand tradition. >

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.

<Starting with Steinitz, the title of World Chess Champion has been handed down through the generations from one player to another, like an Olympic torch. >

Meh. Olympic torches aren't handed through generations. At the moment, I can't think of an alternative. The sentence might well just end at "another."

<This system worked reasonably well, until 1993,>

I'm undecided, but the first comma might be unnecessary.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Ohio> Well met, and welcome back.

I enacted all of your suggested edits in your first post.

In your second post, I agree a footnote is necessary and logged your edit.

I logged your "grand tradition" objection.

I logged your "Olympic torches" edit.

I simply enacted your "first comma" edit.

<OHIO> DO YOU THINK BOOMIE IS RIGHT. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GET RID OF THE ITALICS ON THE ORIGINAL TEXT BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL TO READ.

I told him he can adjust his browser settings, but I have mine on "zoom in" and it's making it harder for me to do this logging because NOW THE WORDS ARE SO BIG THEY ARE FILLING UP THE WHOLE SCREEN, WHICH MAKES IT CONFUSING WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MOUSE SCROLLING.

Please advise-- Isn't there some way to make the text <italics> without making it smaller?

Help <crawfb5> and <Phony Benoni>!

Bat Signal out on this, Bat signal.

Ooh maybe batgirl will show up eh?

User: sbc

That would be marvelous. She makes the rest of us pretenders to chess historianshiphood look like tobacconists.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Ohio> A bit off topic here but even more so in your forum, currently hosting an important <McLovin> event. So I'll post it here.

I want to know now that you will be with me in common front, along with all the others who work on these edits, when it comes time to hand them in.

In particular, at the moment I'm thinking that I don't want a "third party" monkeying around with your style edits after they are done.

This is why I'm logging them all on the mirror collections. If necessary, we need to justify to Daniel why we changed what we changed.

We may need a mass combined email campaign to protect the integrity of our final edit.

Possibly. Worse case scenario.

Daniel's our friend, not our opponent. But it is his website and he has final cut on any edit.

It's just that it's going to take a great deal of meticulous work and a great deal of time to do this job properly.

Otherwise it's not worth doing eh?

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <<OHIO> DO YOU THINK BOOMIE IS RIGHT. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GET RID OF THE ITALICS ON THE ORIGINAL TEXT BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL TO READ.>

Yes.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <In particular, at the moment I'm thinking that I don't want a "third party" monkeying around with your style edits after they are done.

This is why I'm logging them all on the mirror collections. If necessary, we need to justify to Daniel why we changed what we changed.

We may need a mass combined email campaign to protect the integrity of our final edit.

Possibly. Worse case scenario.

Daniel's our friend, not our opponent. But it is his website and he has final cut on any edit. >

Dear Daniel,

Hello esteemed friend. I hope this brief email finds you and yours in good health and cheerful spirit.

After many hours of careful consideration, here is the final product of the WCCEP. Please review it carefully. While each of us has had some input into this important project, we understand it's your company that will present it to the world and you will have the final say what the final edit will be. We are gladly open to any rewritings/editing/factual corrections you may find. If you happen to do so, we would ask the courtesy of you first presenting any potential changes to our final product for review and consultation.

Thanks in advance,
WCC Editing Project Committee

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Ohio>

Right. I'll just wait and hope maybe one of the brainier colleagues does know a way to make the italics without shrinking the text.

If there is no way to do this, I will enact <BOOMIE'S> request.

Thanks so much for that draft! It's "letter" perfect.

I've just saved it on my hard drive, for the same reason I typically walk around with a grenade in my pocket.

"Just in case."

Aug-03-13  Boomie: <WCC: I need you on this project>

I'm on the case and kicking bottom.

Oh, and what do I do to get on board?

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: "You're out Tom."

Oops wrong movie hang on...

Ah yes <The Good the Bad and the Ugly>:

"Blondie, I'm very happy to be working with you again."

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <Tim> on a rare serious note, this project here is open to any member who wants to contribute.

The more people who help out on this the better our final edit will be.

It goes without saying, but I'll say it, the participation of you and <Ohio> is key to our ultimate triumph of the will.

Oops what a giveaway.

I meant "triumph of fact over fancy."

Playing chess is all about finding the truth of a position.

Chess history should be all about finding the truth of what actually happened, so far as that can be determined with proper sources.

Here is an audiovisual aid that I think sums up the credo of our edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjSy...

Aug-03-13  Boomie: <WCC>

"The edits might not even be in the car, Sonny!"

Dang. Wrong movie again.

Great to be on board. Now how do I change that font?

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: <NO TIM TO LOSE>

Well I'll wait a day or so in case folks "in the know" such as <crawfb5> or <Phony Benoni> might know how to make italics without shrinking the size of the font to "ant level."

If there's no way to do it I'll change it all back to regular size font, which I believe would be "squab level," if I'm not mistaken.

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: "Nice work, Lou."

Ok I just kicked the question upstairs to the big boys.

So with or without italics we'll have the big letters back soon.

Aug-03-13  Boomie: <WCC>

"Let's meet at a second location where I'll feel safe."

I guess the fonts can't be changed as easily as any word processor.

"If we can tape the font behind the toilet, then I'll edit them all."

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project: Yep it's to do with the code they use for fonts and such on the games collection pages. I asked on their forum, so we'll know very soon if I can keep the Italians.

"The admins will invite you to a meeting to settle your differences. At that meeting, you'll be assassinated."

Aug-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <Well I'll wait a day or so in case folks "in the know" such as <crawfb5> or <Phony Benoni> might know how to make italics without shrinking the size of the font to "ant level.">

I generally use tequilla, but the effect never seems to last. Probably my anti-virus software eliminating the worm.

In other words, I have no idea.

Aug-03-13  Boomie: <WCC>

Sounds like HTML amateurs to me. If you look at the source (Right Click/View Source), you'll see this line under the Style section:

.fixedText width:344px; padding:1px; border-style:solid; border-color:#996633; border-width:1px; background-color:#FFFFDD; font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 9px

Adjusting the font-size should do the trick.

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