Apr-18-12 | | hellopolgar: Go Ni Hua! |
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Apr-18-12 | | Strongest Force: One of these days I will tell the story of why Petrosian yelled at me because I was yelling at Kamsky at ICC. Nak had something to do with it. |
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Apr-18-12 | | Rook e2: Ivan Sokolov only played 2 games so far? |
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Apr-18-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <Strongest Force> You are pretty much compelled to tell the story now, man! LTJ |
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Apr-18-12 | | Albertan: <Apr-18-12 Rook e2: Ivan Sokolov only> <played 2 games so far?> The PGN file supplied by the organisers includes a second round game Ivan Sokolov vs Tania Sachdev which is recorded as a black-piece victory for the latter – but does not include moves or a commentary. We have contacted Tania, who is currently preparing for round four, to find out the circumstances of this game. Addendum: Rakesh Pai of Bangalore, India, showed us an Indian newspaper article which explains what happened: Loek Van Wely of Holland and his compatriot Ivan Sokolov failed to turn up in time for the game. Akshayraj Kore and Tania Sachdev were awarded walkovers by the arbiter. ) Source:http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Apr-19-12 | | Rook e2: Thanks Albertan! Loek and Ivan are actually teammates nowadays. They got some experience playing lower players see: http://www.schaakbond.nl/wedstrijds...
They both play for SISSA. Last year my team had to face Sokolov, our first bord player (2100 or so) faced the four pawn attack in the Kings-Indian and lost in about 25 moves.. |
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Apr-19-12 | | waustad: <rook_e2>The 2 GMs would lose a mountain of elo by giving up loss in that competition. I see that van Wely is 4.5/5 and losing a bit. He lost more with the draw than he gained for the 4 wins. I'm always amazed when people talk about racking up elo against weaker players since there is so much more to lose than there is to win for any given game. |
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Apr-19-12 | | wordfunph: 5th round live games..
http://www.dubaichess.ae/dubaiopen2... |
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Apr-19-12 | | Rook e2: < waustad: <rook_e2>The 2 GMs would lose a mountain of elo by giving up loss in that competition. I see that van Wely is 4.5/5 and losing a bit. He lost more with the draw than he gained for the 4 wins. I'm always amazed when people talk about racking up elo against weaker players since there is so much more to lose than there is to win for any given game. > The same has a sponsor. They are planning to become dutch team champion in 3 years from now, with each year a promotion and some reinforcement. But yes, playing with 2 GM's in this class is like shooting with a cannon on a fly (Dutch expression also in English?) :-) |
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Apr-19-12 | | plimko: My two cents on 14th Dubai Open
http://biker60.wordpress.com/2012/0... |
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Apr-20-12 | | PhilFeeley: Nisipeanu - former European champ - will probably lose more Elo points than van Wely. |
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Apr-20-12 | | waustad: <PhilFeely>Yes, losing to a 2474 for ordinary mortals is no big deal. For him it is a serious hit. I didn't remember seeing him earlier. Team tournaments tend to have people joining and leaving a lot. Carlsen was officially on a Bundesliga team but didn't play any games this season. |
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Apr-20-12 | | waustad: Oh. I was talking about the Dutch league action that was linked to by <Rook e2>. Sorry for the confusion. Yes, any big Swiss is a hazzard for a high ranked player. Team events are too. For a 2500 player playing many games against 2100 players, the stronger player needs to win them all to pick up anything. An example would be Eva Moser playing in the Neckar Open. She went 1.5/2 against two 2240 players and lost a smidgen. For a 2700 player, it is necessary to beat everybody unless they are 2600+ to avoid a huge loss. |
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Apr-21-12 | | PhilFeeley: <wustad> Clearly I spoke too soon. After losing to FM Atabayev Yusup (2404), van Wely should lose a truckload of points. Has anyone seen the game? |
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Apr-21-12 | | wordfunph: <PhilFeeley> Atabayev - Van Wely game.. Y Atabayev vs Van Wely, 2012 |
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Apr-22-12 | | Karpova: <We received a fairly bitter letter from Dutch GM Ivan Sokolov (above) regarding the forfeit in round two against Tania Sachdev. Ivan explains that he and Loek van Wely had shared a taxi which had mistakenly driven them to a distant part of Dubai. After the mistake had been corrected the two arrived 32 minutes after the start of the round (30 minutes are allowed). "Loek opponent clearly understood the problem and wanted to play the game," says Ivan. "My opponent wanted her point very badly. After the appeals committee had positively answered our appeal and allowed our games to be played, Loek's game started. My opponent Tania Sachdev had left playing hall and was in her hotel, so I got a zero. About 15 minutes later the Delhi girl happily arrived back in the playing hall..."> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Apr-23-12 | | plimko: Ni Hua is the winner of the 14th Dubai Open!
http://chess-results.com/tnr70837.a... |
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Apr-23-12 | | Albertan: <Rook e2: Thanks Albertan! Loek and> <Ivan are actually teammates nowadays. > Rook e2 your welcome here is some additional explanation for what happened to Van Wely and Sokolov: "We received a fairly bitter letter from Dutch GM Ivan Sokolov (above) regarding the forfeit in round two against Tania Sachdev. Ivan explains that he and Loek van Wely had shared a taxi which had mistakenly driven them to a distant part of Dubai. After the mistake had been corrected the two arrived 32 minutes after the start of the round (30 minutes are allowed). "Loek opponent clearly understood the problem and wanted to play the game," says Ivan. "My opponent wanted her point very badly. After the appeals committee had positively answered our appeal and allowed our games to be played, Loek's game started. Tania Sachdev left the playing hall once she saw appeals committee meeting with deliberate intention to 'win' her point. She was in her hotel, so I got a zero. About 15 minutes later the Delhi girl happily arrived back in the playing hall..." "Indian IM Tania Sachdev with 4.0/7 points
"To which Tania Sachdev replied: "They have no zero tolerance here and with a 30 minute default time the games start at 5:30 p.m. All the players leave by the official bus together at 4:45. My opponent showed up a little over the default time for whatever reason he claimed. The arbiter stopped the clock on my board and signed the sheets, I left for my hotel about 15 minutes later, around half past six, not even aware that there was going to be an appeal. At half past seven in the evening I got a call from the organizer stating that they have decided that I must play the game and must get to the tournament hall as soon as I can, which is a little far and if stuck in traffic can take forever. It was of course not ideal to start playing at 8 p.m. when the game is suppose to begin at half past five, but in any case if they said I had to then I had to. However five minutes later, while I was at the reception leaving, I got another call saying that there has been a miscommunication and that there is a possibility of a rematch only if I want it and its not forced. I took the decision that I did not want to start my game at eight in the evening, and that was it. As I was on my way I went to the hall and reached well past eight p.m. I am extremely shocked at Mr. Sokolov's reaction. This is a sport and there are rules. If a person is not able to make it on time, let alone 30 minutes later, for whatever reason, I really think the least they can do is get over it, instead of making themselves sound like the victim of their opponents decision." " Source:http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Apr-24-12 | | Jason Frost: Perfectly reasonable explanation for not agreeing to play a game 2.5 hours late, in my opinion. Congratulations to Ni Hua. Also a nice tournament for Baad who tied for first and won the mid-term blitz event. |
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Apr-24-12 | | zoren: guess that forfeit really hurt Sokolov, he finished @ 6.5. |
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