| page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45
|1. Wang Hao vs E Inarkiev
||1-0||43||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||E81 King's Indian, Samisch|
|2. Jakovenko vs A Volokitin
||1-0||42||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||A70 Benoni, Classical with 7.Nf3|
|3. Sutovsky vs Shirov
||½-½||42||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C78 Ruy Lopez|
|4. Rublevsky vs V Gashimov
||1-0||60||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||B72 Sicilian, Dragon|
|5. Bologan vs Onischuk
|| ||½-½||26||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D60 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense|
|6. A Volokitin vs Bologan
||½-½||75||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||E99 King's Indian, Orthodox, Taimanov|
|7. Onischuk vs Wang Hao
|| ||½-½||39||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D15 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav|
|8. Rublevsky vs Sutovsky
|| ||½-½||17||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation|
|9. V Gashimov vs E Inarkiev
||½-½||28||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C92 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|10. Shirov vs Jakovenko
||½-½||18||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3|
|11. Sutovsky vs V Gashimov
||½-½||20||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C43 Petrov, Modern Attack|
|12. Bologan vs Shirov
||½-½||69||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||B30 Sicilian|
|13. Jakovenko vs Rublevsky
||½-½||67||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||B46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation|
|14. Wang Hao vs A Volokitin
|| ||½-½||23||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C42 Petrov Defense|
|15. E Inarkiev vs Onischuk
||½-½||58||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C84 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|16. Shirov vs Wang Hao
||½-½||36||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C67 Ruy Lopez|
|17. V Gashimov vs Onischuk
||1-0||61||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C84 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|18. A Volokitin vs E Inarkiev
||1-0||47||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav|
|19. Rublevsky vs Bologan
||½-½||39||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C48 Four Knights|
|20. Sutovsky vs Jakovenko
|| ||½-½||38||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||C89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall|
|21. Jakovenko vs V Gashimov
|| ||½-½||31||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||A30 English, Symmetrical|
|22. Bologan vs Sutovsky
|| ||½-½||23||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||E60 King's Indian Defense|
|23. Wang Hao vs Rublevsky
||0-1||34||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D27 Queen's Gambit Accepted, Classical|
|24. Onischuk vs A Volokitin
|| ||½-½||39||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D16 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav|
|25. E Inarkiev vs Shirov
||0-1||34||2008||Karpov Poikovsky||D12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav|
| page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45
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|Jul-17-08|| ||kramputz: <offtherook: <Kramputz> How much do homeopaths (or their patients) know about real medicine? Maybe they should learn before they reject it in favor of untested and potentially dangerous alternatives. Homeopathy contradicts basic science and its practitioners too often eschew actual medical attention that could help.>
You just proved your ignorance you poor little "Doctor wannabe".
Homeopathy has been around for 200 years. Very popular in Europe and some other parts of the world. Study it a little and you will be smarter. Get a copy of a small paperback book "Homoeopathy Medicine of the New Man" By George Vithoulkas.
Many allopathic physicians use it with very good results.
(No I did not misspell it !!!)
One of these days you will remember me for it.
I hope it would help GM Gashimov ~!
|Jul-17-08|| ||Etienne: Well there has been quite a few scientific studies about homeopathy and the only when some studies showed positive results, peer-review showed that there was protocol mistakes, and when they were done with the protocol corrected, results showed that homeopathy was bunk. You'll have to trust me on faith or check yourself as I have no link at hand and won't bother looking for some, but of course, if you want to base your faith on books written by homeopaths for people who believe in homeopathy, then go waste your money on water and sugar, friend.|
And in any case, I have a bridge for sale, if you're interested.
|Jul-17-08|| ||offtherook: <kramputz> It's been around for 200 years, yes. So? It's based on crap ideas about vitalism that have long since been rejected. Would you like me to design you an airplane based off of Aristotelian physics, or would you prefer I used <real> physics? Studying homeopathy will not make me smarter, it will just add some more random crap to the useless clutter I already fill my brain with. Basic laws of chemistry and physics refute its premises. Appeal to popularity is just a lousy form of argument from authority, so that's not convincing. Astrology is believed by many people, that doesn't change the fact that it is utter nonsense. And as for your ad hominems, I am no doctor, at least not yet. But it doesn't take a very high degree of scientific knowledge to be able to see that homeopathy is a load of bull.|
|Jul-17-08|| ||whiteshark: <visayanbraindoctor> IMO your assessment is right, but I would have played on. Just to show after <27...Kg7 29.Rh1 Rh8 30.Qe4 Bd4 31.Rxh8 Rxh8 32.Rh1 Rxh1 33.Kxh1 Bxf2> white is already a pawn down and black should play on (for a win).
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|Jul-17-08|| ||Thrajin: Homeopathy thoroughly debunked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1...|
|Jul-17-08|| ||DiscoJew: lots of draws...the average games looks like 30 moves tops thats crazy.|
|Jul-17-08|| ||kramputz: |
<offtherook:> <kramputz> <It's based on crap ideas ......> <Studying homeopathy will not make me smarter, it will just add some more random crap to the useless clutter I already fill my brain with.> < And as for your ad hominems, I am no doctor, at least not yet.> What kind of grammar is that? <homeopathy is a load of bull.>
I will not communicate with an ignorant, dull person, who is unable express himself without using words such as "CRAP and BULL. Hope one day you grow up.
|Jul-17-08|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <whiteshark> That's right. Black does have an advantage in the final position, although I was thinking that it would not have been sufficient for a win. But I do agree with you fully that Black should have continued playing. The final position is not yet fully played out. Perhaps they were just tired at the end of this tournament and wanted to go straight home?|
After an exchange of rooks, which seems forced to me,
As White I would try to post my Queen and Bishop on squares that are attacking the f7 pawn in order to tie down the black Queen to its defense; and exchange of the Queens at the first opportunity.
As Black, I would try to go for a direct attack on the White King with my Queen and Bishop and snap of any stray White pawns, as such attacks are more effective in BOOC games as the opposing Bishop on the opposite color cannot really oppose my Bishop, and I would be attacking almost with one piece up.
|Jul-17-08|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Congratulations to GMs Rublevsky, Gashimov, Jakovenko, and Shirov for winning the Poikovsky - Anatoly Karpov Tournament 2008!|
|Jul-18-08|| ||brankat: It is interesting to see a real doctor staying out of the "medical debate" :-)|
|Jul-18-08|| ||Xenon Oxide: <brankat> Who is the real doctor?|
|Jul-18-08|| ||Thrajin: <Xenon Oxide>, That would be <visayanbraindoctor>.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||Illogic: <DiscoJew: lots of draws...the average games looks like 30 moves tops thats crazy.> You must be mistaken. It's only Kramnik and Leko that cause such things to happen. I learned so from the wise kibitzers here.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||brankat: <Wenon Oxide> He is precisely the kind of a specialist we need around here with increasing frequency and urgency: A Brain Surgeon! (neuro-surgeon).|
There would be no shortage of patients :-)
|Jul-18-08|| ||offtherook: <Kramputz> My grammar is correct, though my diction may have been rather unsophisticated. This isn't formal writing, anyways. I see you prefer to launch a new string of ad hominems rather than address the fact that homeopathy is utter nonsense. As far as my ignorance, I already admitted that I am not yet a doctor. I still, obviously, have much to learn about the field of medicine. But all it takes is a very modest background in basic science to understand that homeopathy is worthless. In regards to whether I am "dull," I am heading to college next year on a full ride scholarship, and am walking in with 63 credits (the equivalent of 2 years of full-time study) already fulfilled from taking ridiculous amounts of AP tests. I graduated as valedictorian in a class of 800. Most people would not consider me to be stupid. Pray tell, what are your academic qualifications in science or medicine? Homeopathy is based off of ideas like vitalism which have long since been refuted and contradicts what modern scientists know about chemistry and physics. If you want to believe some quacks who could barely get through med school over the collective knowledge accumulated by some of the greatest minds in human history, well, you might want to ask <Etienne> about that bridge he had for sale.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||randzo: what are the next supertournaments?|
|Jul-18-08|| ||offtherook: <randzo: what are the next supertournaments?> I'm mainly looking forward to the Anand-Kramnik match this October. This tournament was pretty interesting, with its 4-way tie for first. Does anyone know who won on tiebreaks?|
|Jul-18-08|| ||kramputz: <offtherook:> <Kramputz>
<regards to whether I am "dull," I am heading to college next year on a full ride scholarship, and am walking in with 63 credits (the equivalent of 2 years of full-time study) already fulfilled from taking ridiculous amounts of AP tests. I graduated as valedictorian in a class of 800. Most people would not consider>
Congratulations and the best of luck in your studies.<what are your academic qualifications in science or medicine?> M.P.H. B.Ph.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||offtherook: <Kramputz> BPh? That's a different type of degree than I'm familiar with. What's your MPH in? Epidemiology?|
In any case, you do realize that homeopathic remedies are <literally> placebos? I'm not just denigrating homeopathy as the placebo effect, the expensive pills you can purchase from homeopaths are actually identical to placebos.
|Jul-18-08|| ||swordfish: <randzo: what are the next supertournaments?> |
Biel starts tomorrow, with Carlsen as the clear favorite.
|Jul-18-08|| ||beenthere240: Astrology has been around for much longer than homeopathy and must be even better!|
|Jul-18-08|| ||buhomorado: What time starts the tournament? Here is already 19:10 Hours. Im from Mexico. And I want to see the online GAMES in LIVE.|
So? At what time ill need to chek the website of the Tournament?
Sorry for my english, is bad.
|Jul-18-08|| ||Jim Bartle: Mala suerte. El torneo ya terminó. Pero otro comienza el domingo: Biel.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||buhomorado: Jim Bartle. Pero a que horas comienza el de Biel? Es al que me referia de hecho.|
|Jul-18-08|| ||Jim Bartle: Disculpa. Busca entre la lista de "kibitzing" "41st Biel International."|
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