|May-28-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: Great game. Really funny is following variation of accepting of sac: 27...Rxg7 28.hxg7 Rg8 29.Rxh7 Qg1+ 30.Nd1!! (But not 30.Ka2? Qg6) 30...Qxd1+ 31.Ka2 Kb7 32.Rf8 Bxd2 33.Rb8+ and 34.g8=Q |
|May-28-04|| ||Catfriend: Reminds me of the immortal Queen-Sac game - Adams vs. Torre|
|May-28-04|| ||kevin86: Another circus of queen sacs and rook sacs! A sparkling finish! |
|May-28-04|| ||ajile: I don't get why black can't play 21...Rdf8. Is QxR RxQ,RxR NxR, H7 Nxh7, RxN so bad for black? And where is the win after 22. Qg4+ ? |
|May-28-04|| ||AdrianP: <Honza> Great variation, I like 30 Nd1!!. But there's something wrong with the end of it, so far as I can see. Isn't there still a black Rook on g8...? Or is there some reason I'm missing why Black cannot play 33...Kxb8 e.g. Kxb8 34. Rh8 Qg1. |
|May-28-04|| ||AdrianP: <Honza> Did you mean: 27...Rxg7 28.hxg7 Rg8 29.Rxh7 Qg1+ 30.Nd1!! (But not 30.Ka2? Qg6) 30...Qxd1+ 31.Ka2 Kb7 32.Rf8 Bxd2 <33. Rxg8 34.Rb8+ and 35.g8=Q > That looks pretty forced and sound to me. |
|May-28-04|| ||MatrixManNe0: Accursed Vienna Game...
Ahem... anyway... gah! Closed Game!!
Pheh... 12. gxh5 seemed a little odd to me... 12. g5 would keep the position sealed, and with gxh5, white opens the position a little, and if black happens to break open the position, white's king would be in great trouble. On a plus for white, white holds a good spatial advantage on the kingside.
I would have liked to have seen more of this game, I believe black resigned too quickly.
21...Rdf8 doesn't seem to accomplish much, by trading off the kingside pieces, black is stuck with awkwardly trapped queenside pieces. Not only that, but white has the response of Qg4+ when the king must retreat. RxR, RxR, Rf1 either controls the f-file, or trades off the queenside pieces where white has the obvious advantage.
In response to Honza's variation, 30... Rxg7 would work fine. Remember: black still has that rook on the final rank!
|May-28-04|| ||AdrianP: <MatrixManNeo> Welcome to the site. Honza's variation, so far as I can see, contained an error at the end, but it is still sound. Black has time to nab the Rook on g8 and then go on to force the queening of the g-pawn. Therefore, 30...Rxg7 would have been losing. See my second post above. |
|May-28-04|| ||dreamerman: <ajile "i don't get why black can't play 21...Rdf8.............? and where is the win after 22.Qg4+?>
24. Qg4+ Kb8 24... Kc7? or 24... b8? runs into problems like 25. Rxf8 Rxf8 Qxg6 with horrable out comes for black. or 22.Qg4+ Kb8 22. Rxf8+ Knxf8 23. Knf5! wins for white |
|May-28-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: <AdrianP> Of course, you are right. Correct score of my line should have been 27...Rxg7 28.hxg7 Rg8 29.Rxh7 Qg1+ 30.Nd1 Qxd1+ 31.Ka2 Kb7 32.Rf8 Bxd2 33.Rxg8 Qxc2 34.Rb8+ and 35.g8=Q etc., but I forgot to write the 33rd move.|
<MatrixManNe0> If 27...Rxg7 28.hxg7 Rg8 29.Rxh7 Qg1+ 30.Nd1 Rxg7, then simply 31.Rxg7 Qxg7 32.Bxb4 and white is up with material and should win the game. It's only a matter of technique to win such ending with 2 minor pieces and Rook against lone Queen which cannot defend successfully all weak Pawns.
|Sep-11-04|| ||Zaius: Honza, in your line why not 30...Rxg7 to neutralize white's biggest threat? |
|Mar-08-06|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Zaius> It was already mentioned in my reply to <MatrixManNe0>'s comment. After 27...Rxg7 28.hxg7 Rg8 29.Rxh7 Qg1+ 30.Nd1!! (see the position at diagram) |
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30...Rxg7 31.Rxg7 Qxg7 32.Bxb4 white has a won endgame R+B+N vs Q.
|Sep-09-09|| ||OBIT: I have to say, I find 30. Qd7 very disappointing. It seems to me, to stay in the spirit of this game, White needs to leave his queen en prise as long as possible. For the ideal resolution, the queen should stay en prise until Black has no choice but to take it. |
With that in mind, I suggest 30. Rf6! If Black plays 30...Rxg7, White wins by 31. hxg7 Rg8 (or 31...Re8 32. Rxg6 Qd8 33. Bh6, with the same basic idea) 32. Rxg6 Qd8 33. Bh6, threatening Rf8.
If Black wants to play along with White's aspirations to set some kind of record for the queen being en prise, he can play 30...Qd8 31. Rxg6 Rxg7 32. hxg7, transposing to the above line. Or, better yet, he can play 30...Nf4 31. Bxf4 exf4 32. R6xf4 Qd8 33. Rf7 Kc8 (33...Qc8 34. Qd4) 34. Rxa7. So, in this line the queen has been en prise for eleven moves, and now I think Black finally has to make the capture: 34...Rxg7 35. hxg7 Kb8 (or 35...Rg8 36. Ra8+ Kc7 37. Rxd8 Kxd8 38. Rf8+) 36. Raf7 Rg8 37. Rf8 and wins. Now THAT to me, would have been a satisfying finish. :)
|Sep-03-11|| ||K9Empress: "I have not yet disclosed such things as which of my games I am most fond of, but if you ask me to pick one out off the top of my head, the one I played with Janowski at Paris 1900 comes to mind." --Mieses, quoted in de Greiff's 'Mil y Una Partidas'|
|Jun-29-12|| ||e4 resigns: Including ! and !! chess should have the LOL symbol.
|Jun-30-12|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @<e4 resigns>
please don't encourage harrylime
|Jun-06-17|| ||TheFocus: First Brilliancy Prize and 500 francs went to Mieses for his game against Janowski.|