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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
"The Lyon's Share" (game of the day Apr-23-2017)
Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990), Lyon FRA, rd 18, Dec-08
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Keres Defense (C92)  ·  1-0
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Oct-29-15
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  keypusher: <Armandhas: Novice question, I know, but why is this a win for Mr. Kasparov? From what I can see at the final move it looks like a draw. Any explanation would be appreciated.>

Kasparov's b-pawn is threatening to promote to a queen and Karpov has no good way to stop it. The king is cut off and the rook is out of position.

For example, if 57....Rh6+, then 58.Kg2 Rh4 59.Rc7+ Kd8 60.Rxf7 Rxg4+ 61.Kf3 Rg1 62.Rf8+ Kd7 63.b7 wins.

Oct-29-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <Armandhas: Novice question, I know, but why is this a win for Mr. Kasparov?>

This is no way a draw, but an easy win for White.

The main threat is that White will advance his b-pawn and obtain a new queen. How can Black stop this?

Not with his king, which is confined by the White rook. So the only hope is the Black rook.

But how can the Black rook stop the b-pawn? Only by getting to either the 8th rank or the b-file.

The only hope is 57...Rh6+, but of course White can then play Kg2 and no way can the Black rook get to b1 (or b2, b3 etc.) So after 58.Kg2 Rh8 is forced.

But now, thanks to White's d-pawn, the White rook can push back the Black king with 59.Rc7+

Black now has 2 legal moves, 59...Ke8??? loses the rook to 60.Rc8+

59...Kd8 loses another pawn to 60.Rxf7. Now Black is down 2 pawns, and the position is still hopeless because the Black g-pawn is hanging, the Black rook is passive, the Black king is passive, and White can march his b-pawn, or bring up his strong king, or threaten a skewer with rook to a7, and Black is helpless to stop any of it.

Oct-29-15
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  beatgiant: I saw 57...Rh6+ 58. Kg2 Rh8 59. Rc7+ Kd8, and now simply <60. Ra7> with the unstoppable threat of Ra8+, trade rooks and queen the b-pawn.
Oct-30-15  Armandhas: I completely forgot about the pawn-for-queen rule. Thank you for the explanation. Too be honest, it took a while to transcribe what you have written, 'thegoodanarchist', but it was well worth it when I finally figured it all out. It just made me realize how incredibly more complicated the game is when played at such a level as compared to my own 'just try to get as many of your enemies pieces as you can without too much thought' way of playing.

So thank you again, to 'thegoodanarchist' and 'keypusher' for the clarification.

Oct-30-15
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  offramp: <Armandhas> welcome to the site. I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself.
Oct-30-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <Armandhas: I completely forgot about the pawn-for-queen rule.>

This might be the most important rule in chess. Not only can you promote a pawn to a queen on the 8th rank, you can promote it to bishop, knight or rook as well.

You cannot possibly understand any endgame with pawns unless you keep this rule at the front of your mind.

I hope that helps.

Apr-23-17
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  offramp: This game took place in the French town of Lyons, hence today's title, "<The Lyons's Share>".

I have been through Lyons. It was in the dead of night in a car. It looked a bit industrial, but I couldn't see very much.

Apr-23-17  zanzibar: Lyons is rather a famous culinary town -

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/...

Shame you didn't stop for diner.

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Apr-23-17  zanzibar: PS- as I'm sure you're aware, it's pronounced (LEE-ONS), and not (LIE-ONS).

Too bad for the pun.

Apr-23-17
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  al wazir: 21...Bxb2 22. Ra2 Ba8. If 23. Rb1, then 23...Bxa3 24. Rxb8 Qxb8 25. Rxa3 Qb1+ 26. Kh2 Qxe4 27. Qxc7 Qxd5, and black is up a ♙. If 23. Nb5, then 23...Qf6, and now if 24. Nxc7 then 24...Rec8.
Apr-23-17
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  al wazir: <zanzibar: it's pronounced (LEE-ONS), and not (LIE-ONS).> No, it's LEE-ON.
Apr-23-17  zanzibar: For the pun <al>.
Apr-23-17
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  perfidious: <Geoff....(Karpov) played what he wanted to play. He just did not fancy defending that c7 weakness judging Kasparov's game would be easier to play. Karpov made a living out of winning such positions, he knew what he would be facing and simply chose not to go that way....>

This type of decision has also been taken by Carlsen in the occasional loss: breaking out over passive defence--as you say, no-one knows better than these great players that simply waiting for the executioner to call is a thankless task indeed.

Apr-23-17  moi: Greetings from Lyon, where this game took place! :)
Apr-23-17  clement41: In the final position I see ...Rh6+ Kg2 (guarding h1; Kg3? Rh1 Rb1 Kc8 would be another story) Rh8 Rc7+ Kd8 (obviously not ...Ke8?? Rc8+ 1-0) Ra7 Rh4 (...Re8?? Ra8+ Kd7 RxR KxR b7 1-0) Ra8+ Kd7 b7 and promotes
Apr-23-17  Ironmanth: clement41: thanks for the line, I couldn't see it at first. Great maneuvers by White. Appreciate this game today.
Apr-23-17  morfishine: I once had a smoking-hot girlfriend from Lee-on

was the happiest year of my life

ce la vie

*****

Apr-23-17  Abdel Irada: ∞

<al wazir: <zanzibar: it's pronounced (LEE-ONS), and not (LIE-ONS).> No, it's LEE-ON.>

It's closer to "lee-YOH," with a faint hint of "n" in the nasalization of the second syllable.

Apr-23-17
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  moronovich: Lee-ong is the most common french pronouncation.Eventually spiced up with <AIs> explanation. There is a small g-sound in the ONpart.

The farmers down south,say something like Leeon-geu.

Apr-23-17  morfishine: According to my former girlfriend, <Abdel irada> is closest: The 'LEE is heavily accented while the 'on' has a faint 'n'

No 'g'

*****

Apr-23-17
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  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: ...

I have been through Lyons. It was in the dead of night in a car. >

What was it like outside of the car?

Apr-23-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <offramp: This game took place in the French town of Lyons, hence today's title, "<The Lyons's Share>".

I have been through Lyons. It was in the dead of night in a car. It looked a bit industrial, but I couldn't see very much.>

I zipped by planet Earth once but didn't see any reason to stop. It reeked of hydrogen sulfide (do you have rotten egg farms?). I later published a paper in Intergalaxia demonstrating that, contrary to common opinion, rap music is capable of propagating itself through the furthest reaches of the void.

Apr-23-17  AlicesKnight: <ChessHigherCat>; <rap music is capable of propagating itself through the furthest reaches of the void...> - Indeed - just listen to the rhythm of any self-respecting beat-boxing pulsar. In the game, was 43...BxN an error? - 44...Rg6 is forced after it and the R is now trapped on the K-side.
Apr-23-17
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  ChessHigherCat: And now Ladies and Gentlemen, a word from our sponsor: <Alice's Knight" In the game, was 43...BxN an error? - 44...Rg6 is forced after it and the R is now trapped on the K-side.>

The B is en prise so the alternatives are limited: Qe8 protects the B but allows the fork on c7, which in turn would allow Bxe4, so it ma be playable (analysis: tilt). Qc8 looks bad to me (ultimate authority that I am). The only bishop move that doesn't lose a tempo and allow Rc7 is Bb5, attacking the Q. Is that what you had in mind?

Apr-23-17  The Kings Domain: The good old days.
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