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Veselin Topalov vs Vassily Ivanchuk
"Over the Top" (game of the day Jul-14-2016)
Linares (1999), Linares ESP, rd 13, Mar-09
Zukertort Opening: Sicilian Invitation (A04)  ·  0-1


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Sep-26-15  morfishine: Ivan chucks a piece for a winning attack
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  kevin86: Black sacrificed a piece to expose white's king...and the attack followed.
Sep-26-15  houtenton: <agb2002><once> in these cases I open the game before I try to solve the problem, wait one second until the position appears with sufficient self-discipline not to look downwards. (adjust your pc-screen so that only the chessboard and the rule under it are visible now, if necessary). Remember the number of the move, go back to the beginning (<<) and follow the game until the critical move. Now you know if you can still castling, what was the previous move and other advantages. Is this an idea or am I underestimating you?
Sep-26-15  morfishine: <Once> I have to disagree with this statement: <...Either way, it's impressive but I don't think we should assume that Chuky worked it all out to the end> Of course he did. Seirawan once claimed he saw 29-moves ahead; here, its a mere 8-moves. I can even see that far, depending on how many beers I've had :)


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  Jimfromprovidence: My move was 18...f5, but I could not do anything with it.

I tried 18...Nxe2, but I could not find a way to break through after 19 Bd2.

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Sep-26-15  Rookiepawn: <Jimfromprovidence: My move was 18...f5, but I could not do anything with it. I tried 18...Nxe2, but I could not find a way to break through after 19 Bd2.>

Thought the same, but what about 18... Nxe2 19. Bd2 Qe5. Not that I calculated long variants, but after 20. f3 Nxg3 Black gets two pawns for the N and White's position is anything but easy. Besides, against other moves the threat f5 is always there.

After 19 Bd2 Qe5 I'd rather play the Black side anytime. That's why I think White needs to take the N and cling to material otherwise imho it is clearly inferior.

Jul-14-16  Bravehorse: Seems like after 19. Bd2, black can just simply cling onto the knight with 19... Bc4. The simple threat of Re8 is invincible.
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  kevin86: White's exposed king is about to be rounded up by black's forces.
Jul-14-16  ajile: <patzer2: <8... Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Nf6 10. Bg2?!> This move concedes the advantage to Black, and this is the only game in which it was played in the OE.

Stronger is 10.Nd6+!>

I was also puzzled when White didn't play this move <10.Nd6+> which misplaces Black's king.

Jul-14-16  psmith: <Jimfromprovidence> Stockfish gives the cool move 19. Bd2 Qe5!
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  kingscrusher: Nice one!
Dec-24-16  Saniyat24: Wow, what a game...what formation they reach after just 14-15 moves! A very memorable match between two attacking players....and what a move is Ivanchuk's 18...Ne2...simply fantastic!
Sep-08-18  goldfarbdj: When I was first looking at this, I hallucinated the existence of a black bishop on f6, which makes the puzzle Monday-level: 18 ... Nf3+, and if the king makes its only legal move to f1, Bh3 is mate; but taking the knight allows Bxc3+ winning the queen. Then I realized that the bishop on e6 could not take on c3.
Sep-08-18  Walter Glattke: 26.fxe4 Bg4+ 27.Kf2 Qxh2+ 28.Ke3 Qg3# or 28.Kf1 Rf8+!? better 28.-Bh3# 25.Bf4 possibly better than 25.Re1.
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  agb2002: I remember this one.
Sep-08-18  stacase: 18...Nxe2 is one of those "Give your opponent lots of choices - all bad" kind of a move.

When I was a kid I learned that Knights are expendable.

Sep-08-18  Walter Glattke: Whie escapes from mating with 18.-Nxe2 19.Bd2 Qe5 (Jim/stockfish) by 20.Bg2 Nxc3+ 21.Kf1 Bc4+ 22.Kg1 Ne2+ 23.Kf1 Nxg3++ 24.Kg1 Qxb2 25.hxg3, but hopeless of course.
Sep-08-18  WorstPlayerEver: <Jimfromprovidence>

Bad tactics:

18...Nxe2 19. Bd2 Qe5 20. Qc2 f5 21. Bg5 fxe4 22. Bxd8 Qc5

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  malt: Me thinks, me has seen this one before,

18...N:e2 19.K:e2 (19.Q:e2 Q:c3+ )...Rfe8
(19.Bd2 Qh5/Qe5 )

Sep-08-18  saturn2: 18...Nxe2 19. Kxe2 Qh5+ 20. f3 f5 21. Bd3 Rfe8 22. Be3 Bd5 23. Rhf1 Qxh2+ 24. Rf2 Qxg3 25. c4 f4 26. cxd5 Rxe3+ 27. Kf1 Qh3+ 28. Kg1 Rxd5

Till move 21 I calculated this in my head before lurking and playing it out on the board. I took 19..Qh5 because rook and queen are targeting d1. So white has to interpose with either 20 f3 or 20 Bf3

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  malt: Also 19.K:e2 Qh5+ 20.f3

(20.Bf3 Rfe8 21.Be3

<21.B:h5 Bg4+ 22.Kf1 Bh3+ 23.Kg1 Re1# >

23...Bc4+ 22.Ke1 Q:f3 23.Rg1 R:e3+ 24.fe3 Q:e3+ )

(20.Bf3 Bc4+ wins


Sep-08-18  cormier: Notes by Stockfish 8 <(pantzer2)5... Bb4: 5...Qb6 was played in Karjakin vs Grischuk, 2014 (0-1)> 6. Nc3 Qa5 7. Ndb5 d5 <better is 7...Nf6 8.a3 Bxc3+ 9.Nxc3 d5 10.cxd5 Nxd5 11.Bd2 O-O = +0.16 (34 ply)> 8. a3? <8.Bf4 e5 9.Bd2 d4 10.Nd5 Bxd2+ 11.Qxd2 Qxd2+ 12.Kxd2 + / = +0.75 (31 ply)> 8... Bc3 = -0.20 (34 ply)
Sep-08-18  cormier: 5...Qb6:B. 6.Nb5:B, ...Ne5:B. 7.Bf4:B, ...a6:B.

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Analysis by Houdini 4
8.Bxe5 axb5 9.cxb5 Qxb5 10.Bc3 Qc6 11.f3 h5 12.Nd2 h4 13.g4 b5 14.e4 Ne7 15.Nb3 Qb6 16.Qd4 Qb8 17.Qe5 Qxe5 18.Bxe5 Nc6 19.Bf4 b4 20.Bd3 g6 21.Kf2 Bg7 22.Rhb1 Ne5 23.Bb5 = (-0.19) Depth: 25 dpa

Sep-08-18  BxChess: <agb2002><once>: Re Indicating whether castling is possible. If the FEN was given beneath the puzzle, then both the castling and en passant status could be deduced by the aspirant solver.
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  agb2002: <BxChess: <agb2002><once>: Re Indicating whether castling is possible. If the FEN was given beneath the puzzle, then both the castling and en passant status could be deduced by the aspirant solver.>

This is a good idea. For example, Bill Harvey gives the FEN ( although I suspect that he overlooks the castling details in the FEN codes.

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