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|Nov-27-04|| ||Minor Piece Activity: I guess that begs the question of how they are related? =D |
|Nov-27-04|| ||george IV: Nice overall record. |
|Nov-27-04|| ||WMD: Samuel Tinsley's son, Edward, became well-known as chess columnist of The Times. Winter's A Chess Omnibus carries Cecil Purdy's tribute to him:|
"The worst annotator of all time...The management (not chessplayers) took him on, and paid him good money for gibberish over several decades till at long last he died, regretted by none of the many chess-playing readers of The Times in the far-flung outposts of the Empire."
|Jun-01-06|| ||keypusher: <Nice overall record.> Consider who he was playing against! Most of the games in the database are from Hastings 1895 and London 1899; Tinsley would have readily admitted that he was out of his depth in either tournament.|
At Hastings 1895 he had Pillsbury and Tarrasch in trouble and beat Janowski, although he gives the impression of having studied openings for maybe five minutes in his life...had a sort of anti-genius for obtaining bad bishops. Wonder how his son got the Times job?
|Jul-25-07|| ||Caissanist: I believe that Samuel Tinsely was chess columnist before before his son was. When the senior Tinsley died his son was able to convince management to have him take it over.|
|Dec-13-08|| ||GrahamClayton: The 2 games from 1893 in the database are probably from the tournament held at the Simpson's Divan. This was Tinsley's best result, where he finished =2nd with Mason and Teichmann behind Blackburne.|
Source: David Hooper and Kenneth Whyld "Oxford Companion to Chess", 2nd edition, OUP, 1992
|May-16-09|| ||amadeus: An article about Marion Tinsley: http://www.wylliedraughts.com/Tinsl...|
|Jun-23-09|| ||GrahamClayton: In 1926 Samuel Tinsley teamed up with Vera Menchik to give a series of chess presentations on BBC radio.|
|Jul-06-09|| ||alexmagnus: So, is he related to the all-time greatest checkers player or not? And if yes, how?|
|Jan-31-10|| ||keypusher: <GrahamClayton: In 1926 Samuel Tinsley teamed up with Vera Menchik to give a series of chess presentations on BBC radio.>|
Presumably this would be Edward, since Samuel died in 1903.
|Jan-31-10|| ||HeMateMe: chess lessons over the radio? Seems difficult, chess being a more visual medium.|
|Feb-03-10|| ||TheFocus: <HeMateMe>< chess lessons over the radio? Seems difficult, chess being a more visual medium.>|
capablanca's book <Last Lectures> was based on a series of chess lectures and lessons he gave on the radio.
|Dec-28-10|| ||Marcelo Bruno: Does someone know which was his death's cause?|
|Dec-29-10|| ||Calli: <Marcelo Bruno> I have updated the bio with info from BCM. The precise cause of death is not stated. Generally, "passing out" or fainting is due to loss of blood pressure which is often due to heart disease or an aneurysm (internal bleeding), but there are other reasons and the exact cause of Tinsley's death may not be known.|
|Mar-26-11|| ||Marcelo Bruno: <Calli> If I am not mistaken, La Stratégie from 1903 comments something about his obituary, but I don't remember what is written there. I took a sudden glance in an exemplar that belongs to São Paulo Chess Club.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||myschkin: . . .
"The death of <Edward Samuel Tinsley> at the age of 67, at the end of the Worcester Congress, will have come as a great shock to a very large circle of friends and acquaintances. He had suffered a severe illness about a year previously, and had to go into hospital for a serious operation. He however made a good recovery, and his sudden death was quite unexpected. He was born on December 1st, 1869, and was the eldest son of Samuel Tinsley , the wellknown international player, who himself was in charge of the chess column of the Times for a great number of years. E.S. Tinsley on leaving school was apprenticed to the jewelry trade, and later became a traveller. After the death of his father in 1903 he and his two brothers took over the chess work for the Times, and their collaboration continued until 1912, when Edward took full charge. He continued his connection with the jewelry trade until after the outbreak of war in 1914, but a decline in business caused him to seek other employment, and he took charge of one of the clerical branches at Woolwich Arsenal. .."
(source: Obituary, BCM, 1937)
|Jul-15-12|| ||Karpova: According to page 101 of the '(Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung' 1903, Tinsley died of a <Herzschlage>, i. e. cardioplegia.|
|Aug-18-12|| ||Karpova: Again according to to page 101 of the 'Wiener Schachzeitung' 1903, he had a collection 38,000 chess problems. His son took over not only the chess columns but also that great collection.|
|Aug-18-12|| ||TheFocus: The younger Tinsley was not as good an analyst as his father. Nor as good a player.|
|May-08-13|| ||Cibator: English IM William Winter (no relation to the Chess Omnibus author) also administered a severe pasting to Tinsley junior's capabilities as a chess correspondent, remarking that he'd made the Times column a laughing-stock throughout the chess world. |
This was in Winter's memoirs, which were serialised in "Chess" magazine during 1963. His account of how Tinsley got the gig confirms that given by <Caissanist> above.
|Jul-03-13|| ||thomastonk: From "The Times", March 2, 1903:
"Mr. SAMUEL TINSLEY, of Lewisham, died suddenly on February 27 of heart failure at the age of 56. Mr Tinsley was speaking at a meeting in connection with the Lewisham-road Baptist Chapel on Thursday evening, in the work of which he was interested. He concluded his remarks, sat down, slipped from the chair to the floor, and died in the vestry almost immediately after removal without regaining conscionsness."
|Jan-13-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Samuel Tinsley.|
|Jan-30-16|| ||zanzibar: <THE charming chess-column of The Times (Weekly Edition) is well
maintaining the high standard of excellence attained in the early
days, and few particulars of the chess work of its energetic editor will
be read with interest by all devotees of chess.
Mr. Tinsley is native of Hertfordshire, and was born January
13th, 1847. His early days were spent entirely in the fields and woods,
so to speak, miming wild among dogs, guns, pheasants, and all sorts of
game and wild birds, animals and fishes. To put it mildly, he had no
scrap of education, and has been obliged to pick up all he knows since
he was suddenly transferred from country fields and woods to the dirt
and bustle of London, in 1858. The process has been difficult and
expensive, but an even disposition, constant thirst for knowledge and
experience of all sorts, and very temperate habits, have kept him ever
with the desire to rise up and go forward.
He learnt the moves of chess from younger brother when the
real troubles of life began, at the age of about 20. Mr. Tinsley has found it, as many others have done,
rather too much of fascination, but still, on the other hand, it has proved solace and welcome and
healthful distraction when relief to the mind appeared necessity even of existence.
We do not think his forte is serious play, according to the modern plodding style, and until quite
recent years he never played match game. He preferred innumerable skittle games, and played them
too freely. He has reason to regret this, and now thinks serious games are in many respects beneficial,
especially in regard to the cultivation of good style. He says this, as will be observed, rather against
his own predisposition, for the benefit of younger men.
Mr. Tinsley has, however, occasionally played in serious contests, and, rather to his surprise, he
beat Müller handsomely in two matches. Mr. Müller had just then come over from Berlin. Mr. Tinsley
came out well at the Manchester International, and though unsuccessful in sense through bad luck and
literary occupations, he played far better in the Hastings Tournament than hitherto. He came out, by
the way, second (tie) in an important tourney, Black and White, 1893 and won second in very good
first-class Divan tournament. 1892.
It is no secret, we suppose, that for some three years he has managed all chess matters in connection
with The Times, including the now popular column in the weekly edition of that journal. And we may
point to the fact that while, well backed up by the wonderful staff of that marvellous journal, the chess
has been generally absolutely correct. The Times has, during that period, publish than in all the previous years of its existence. This is great and notable fact.>
"The Chess Bouquet (1897)" p122
|May-25-16|| ||zanzibar: <
Tinsley belongs to another school, being brilliant, daring, dashing;
not so sound as Fenton, but more dangerous, and not by any means
rash. He appears at first sight to be getting on in years, but is in
reality comparatively young. Coming to London at a very early age,
fresh from the plough tail and the agricultural wilds of one of the
home counties, with much less than the proverbial half-crown and no
scrap of education or knowledge of the world, Tinsley has had to buy
experience and knowledge dearly, and it has told on a highly-strung
sensitive disposition, but his spirits are ever buoyant and
juvenile. His first chess experiences were acquired in a good
school. Who remembers the Divan thirteen or fourteen years ago? "All
the talents" were there daily, and Saturday afternoons were especially
attrac tive. W. Steinitz, J. H. Zukertort, J. H. Blackburne,
W. N. Potter (a truly great and good English chess player and
analyst), L. Hoffer, James Mason, H. E. Bird, Boden, and McDonnell—
really those were palmy days ! What warm discussions there were on
positions, endings, problems, games, and all sorts of chess matters ;
and how frequently Zukertort, Steinitz, and Hoffer quarrelled and made
it up in five minutes ! How heartily Boden enjoyed a game with Bird or
McDonnell ! Tinsley was a pretty frequent listener and spectator, and
having a retentive memory and an insatiable thirst for knowledge of
all kinds, it is not to be wondered at if he picked up a few good
chessy ideas under such favourable conditions. In off-hand play he
holds with giving your opponent a chance, and cannot bear the idea of
a hum-drum-dead-level solemn game, lasting for an hour or two without
a whisper or a murmur, as if it were a matter of life or death ;
unless indeed you profess to play a serious match game. He is fond of
a trap, and it will not be wise to rush at once to the conclusion that
any particularly obvious line of play will be to your advantage. He is
usually careful and deep, and sees far ahead in a short time, and few
can beat him at the pace. That at Purssell's he is popular is obvious
; witness his informal receptions after the Manchester Tournament and
the recent match with Mtiller. He says many cutting things, but the
Purssellites know him and make allowances, feeling that he has their
interests at heart, and is strictly impartial.
BCM v11 (May 1891) p234/259
|Jun-19-17|| ||Richard Taylor: This is very good. I see he drew a game with Tarrasch once...that is how I came here, or why.|
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