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|May-22-05|| ||WMD: Born 28th July 1912, died 12th November 1979.|
|May-22-05|| ||Akavall: <Sneaky> Is that game in this database?|
|May-22-05|| ||Sneaky: Akavall, I don't know, but I'd love to see it.|
|May-22-05|| ||cuendillar: Sounds like the chess equivalent to Buridan's donkey|
|Jul-08-06|| ||dzanone: I had never heard of Buridan's donkey so I googled it. After reading this at http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/b... I remembered it. Seems like Buridan may not have written it.
"It is also in Buridan's moral psychology that we find the most plausible explanation of the example that has come down to us known as ‘Buridan's Ass’, in which a donkey starves to death because it has no reason to choose between two equidistant and equally tempting piles of hay. This particular example is nowhere to be found in Buridan's writings, although there are versions of it going back at least to Aristotle. The best explanation of its association with Buridan is that it originated as a parody of his account of free choice by later critics, who found absurd the idea that the will's freedom could consist in inaction, i.e., in its ability to defer or ‘send back’ for further consideration any practical judgment that is not absolutely certain."|
Why would they find that absurd? Haven't they ever dealt with bureaucrats?
|Jul-08-06|| ||Phony Benoni: In the case of BUridan's donkey, the problem was with burrocrats.|
|Apr-07-07|| ||stanleys: Here is his game against Uhlmann in which Veresov played an important novelty 14...Rac8!! and managed to win after a blunder by white|
[Event "DDR-BLR m"]
[Black "Veresov,Gavriil N"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bg5 0-0 6.Rc1 h6 7.Bh4 b6 8.cxd5 Nxd5
9.Nxd5 exd5 10.Bxe7 Qxe7 11.g3 Re8 12.Bg2 Ba6 13.Ne5 Nd7 14.Rxc7 Rac8 15.Rxc8 Rxc8 16.0-0 Nxe5
17.dxe5 Qxe5 18.Re1 d4 19.Qd2 Re8 20.f4 Qc5 21.b4 Qd6 22.Bf3 Bc4 23.a3 b5 24.Rd1 Rd8
25.Kg2 a5 26.Qb2 a4 27.Rd2 g5 28.fxg5 hxg5 29.Qc2 Qe5 30.Qe4 Qxe4 31.Bxe4 Kg7 32.e3 Re8
33.Kf3 dxe3 34.Rd1 e2 35.Re1 Kf6 36.Bc6 Re6 37.Bd7 Rd6 38.Bg4 Rd3+ 39.Ke4 Rxa3 40.Bxe2 Bxe2
41.Rxe2 Rb3 0-1
|Jul-08-08|| ||Infohunter: <cuendillar: Sounds like the chess equivalent to Buridan's donkey>|
<dzanone: ...[A] donkey starves to death because it has no reason to choose between two equidistant and equally tempting piles of hay. This particular example is nowhere to be found in Buridan's writings, although there are versions of it going back at least to Aristotle....>
The title song of Devo's 1980 album "Freedom of Choice" contains a reference to this idea, attributing it to someone in ancient Rome. I could be more specific, but quoting the lyrics here would probably run afoul of U.S. copyright law, and hence also run afoul of <cg> Posting Guideline #4.
|Jul-08-08|| ||BIDMONFA: Gavriil Veresov|
|Jul-08-08|| ||whiteshark: Bio, sort of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrii...|
Richter-Veresov Attack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richte...
He was a Captain in the Russian Army.
He became the champion of Byelorussia in 1938. He was 2nd after A. Liliental, who wasn't the inhabitant of Byelorussia.
|Jul-08-08|| ||Everett: Two quotes from "The Sorcerer's Apprentice."
After annotating game 26 (not in this database) Bronstein states "You ought to know that Veresov was very anti-Semitic. He lived in Minsk and was a real enemy of Isaac Boleslavsky."
The very next game (27) against Fischer...
Bronstein vs Fischer, 1960
... Bronstein describes the opening as the "Lewickiego Attack" with this explanation:
"Lewickiego Attack? Yes, in the old books it was called just that! I do not feel any inclination to call it the Veresov Attack as it is done nowadays. Although he played this line quite often, he should not be honored by having an opening named after him."
|Jul-08-08|| ||MichAdams: <You ought to know that Veresov was very anti-Semitic. He lived in Minsk and was a real enemy of Isaac Boleslavsky.>|
Any other evidence adduced or is being regarded an enemy of Boleslavsky sufficient?
|Jul-08-08|| ||Brown: <MichAdams>
<Any other evidence adduced or is being regarded an enemy of Boleslavsky sufficient?>
I guess you'll have to ask Bronstein with a ouija board.
It seems the message quoted was, indeed, a quote, not a "view." In this light, your last paragraph misses the mark.
|Jul-09-08|| ||whiteshark: Bronstein vs Veresov, declined battles:
|Jul-09-08|| ||whiteshark: <Boleslavsky tied Veresov 0 to 0, with 3 draws.>:
|Oct-06-08|| ||GrahamClayton: <Whiteshark>He was a captain in the Russian Army|
When Veresov competed in the 13th USSR championship (Moscow 1944), he played his games still wearing his military uniform.
Source: Bernard Cafferty and Mark Taimanov, "The Soviet Championships", Cadogan Books, 1998
|Jul-08-10|| ||igiene: Recently I win a game (in a lost position) because my adversary exceeded the time limit (2 hours qpf)while he was thinking about 1/2 hour on a move. When I asked him why he don't move before the flag falls, he said: "I believe it was the first, not second hour of play" (!)|
|Jul-28-10|| ||wordfunph: Veresov wouldn't exist without Richter.. :-)|
|Jul-08-11|| ||Richard Taylor: I played the Veresov attack a few days ago. I misplayed the opening but I won by luck later. But I have had some success with it previously. Good opening. It is also called the Richter-Veresov as <wordfunph> implies|
|Jul-08-11|| ||number 23 NBer: I couldn't help but notice Veresov's record in the'34/35 USSR Championship: +9 -10. A victory for fighting chess (?)|
|Dec-13-12|| ||GrahamClayton: Here is a nice checkmate by Veresov against Valery I Zilberstein in 1969:|
click for larger view
1...♕h2+ 2.♔g4 f5+ 3.♔g5 ♕xg2+ 4.♕xg2 ♗e3#
click for larger view
|Jul-08-14|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. IM Gavriil Veresov.|
|May-24-15|| ||TheFocus: <In positions that are right on the line which separates a draw from a loss, we generally find, as a rule, a single solution> - Gavriil Veresov.|
|Jul-08-16|| ||offramp: The day he met Kurt Paul Otto Joseph Richter ... Well, that was history.|
|Jul-28-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Gavriil Veresov.|
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