| Jul-26-03 |
| kapinov: It is interesting, his record against one of the strongest players of his time. Louis Eichborn was either a forgotten world champion or one of Anderssen's local sparring partners where these game scores were his only wins (with the hundreds upon hundreds of lost game scores somehow "misplaced"). |
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| Aug-27-03 |
| jaime gallegos: Breslaw was at that time a German city on the Eastern Prusia, now called Wroclaw on Polony. It was an important city with good chess players. Anderssen was not invencible and players like Eichborn were not defeated by him. The chess archeologists must find other games or players like him ! |
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Aug-27-03
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| ughaibu: Eichborn's games were found among his papers after he died, he had only kept his wins and some draws. There's no reason to suppose he had an overall plus score against Anderssen. |
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Apr-24-05
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| chessgames.com: Recently we added some more of Eichborn's games, mostly wins over Andersson. We're still picking through them for errors and duplications. So who is this Eichborn, who defeated one of the strongest players of that era with a score you would expect from an exhibition against amateurs? Some interesting information and ideas regarding Eichborn can be found here http://snow.prohosting.com/~batgrrl... <According to the book "Adolf Anderssen" by Hermann von Gottschall the games-scores of the games between Anderssen and Louis Eichborn (who died on May 9 1882, in Breslau) were found in a notebook of the latter. And he naturally only wrote down the wins over his great opponent. That's why (almost) only wins by Eichborn are known!> |
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| Aug-08-05 |
| offramp: <chessgames.com> Is it because his games have just been updated that his overall score is given currently as '+0 -0 =0 (0.0%)'? |
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Aug-08-05
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| sneaky pete: I'm not a mathematician, a lawyer or a philosopher, but wouldn't +0 -0 =0 be 50.0% score? |
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Aug-08-05
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| Ziggurat: Well, to be nit-picky, the winning percentage is undefined, since the formula leads to the expression "0 divided by 0". <Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games> |
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| Aug-08-05 |
| weary willy: Presumably 0/0/0 because all games are "casual" |
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Feb-07-06
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| ath: I've just come across a note about Louis Eichborn published in Deutsche Schachzeitung v. 48, p. 65-73 (March 1893) with some more information. (This is the first mention of the Eichborn notebook I have found so far.) The notebook covered the period from October 1850 to July 1861 and contained numerous endgames (he is said to have been strong endgame player) as well as around 500 game scores from his play, occasionally with notes. The opponents were Breslau players: Eliason and Friedländer (approx. 100 games each), then Anderssen, then Sadebeck and Promnitz (each ~40), Mannheimer and von Gottschall (~30), Ditterberner, Bruck, Hillel, Ravenstein, Schück (~12-25), and finally a few games with players such as von der Lasa and Jenay. I'll try to upload the last two -- the only other non-Anderssen score given is against Dr. Eliason. |
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| Apr-02-06 |
| lentil: to me, these all look like 'what if...' games. the 1885 version of computer analysis... |
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Dec-28-06
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| Karpova: He is considered to be the greatest player of all times according to this site.
Though his games were all casual and he was the only source for the gamescores. http://roman.krumsieck.com/bestever... |
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Dec-28-06
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| Karpova: 431. Alekhine (2636 in 1928)
And for those ones looking for Capablanca - he's on place 582 (rating of 2612 in 1921)
734. Max Euwe (2605 in 1936)
1714. Emanuel Lasker (2543 in 1907)
341. Wilhelm Steinitz (2484 in 1882)
and those were just some Wolrdchampions.
Akiba Rubinstein is on place 1395 with 2559 in 1918 (Silvio Danailov is much hiher ranked - place 1227)
3010. Paul Morphy (2496 in 1858)
9004. Adolf Anderssen (2371 in 1862)
19562. Philidor (2242 in 1790)
and the worst player ever is Hans Spronk (place 47366 with a rating of 263 in 1998) They even list cheater Vladimir Afromeev (place 915 with 2591 rating in 2002) |
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| Oct-08-07 |
| voorlandt: <ath> It would be great if you could post some more games of Louis Eichborn. How many do you have? |
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Dec-02-07
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| ath: <voorlandt> I have only about half-a-dozen games over and above what is available here already, but as they're all against totally unknown players, I rather doubt they merit inclusion here. Lasa is well known, and Jenay at least half-known: that's why I submitted them. |
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