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Jan-05-08 | | whiskeyrebel: It seems to me that if Tal wasn't as grounded in positional knowledge his intuitive sacrifices would have had a significantly higher failure rate. I'm guessing here of course due to my lack of strength. In the pages of Tal's autobiography I sense he took a great deal of pleasure from his best endgames. He didn't like being labeled a one trick pony. |
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Jan-07-08 | | shakkiseepra: Hi, can anyone tell me if there are good books on Tal's life? Mean, not entirely about his chess, but sort of an autobiography? |
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Jan-07-08 | | whiskeyrebel: Yes: "The Life and Times of Mikhail Tal"..one of the greatest chess books of 'em all. It's an autobiography that ends in the early 70's. Quite a few annotated games and lots of insight into the man. I'm sure several kibitzers here will agree it's well worth getting. |
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Jan-07-08 | | whatthefat: Yes, 'The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal' by the man himself is definitely the best book to get - and many would say one of the best chess books of all. I'd also recommend Joe Gallagher's 'The Magic of Mikhail Tal' which focuses on his life following the end of his own book. |
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Jan-07-08 | | whiskeyrebel: I agree..."The Magic.." is essential for Tal fans too. |
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Jan-10-08 | | shakkiseepra: Self-written this '...Life and times...'? So Tal had flair for writing as well? |
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Jan-10-08 | | kellmano: <Shakkiseepra> I just got this book for Christmas and though it is an excellent book, and Tal's annotations are great, I would not go so far as to say he had 'a flair for writing' .... |
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Jan-10-08 | | whiskeyrebel: Personally, I think that compared to other chess masters he certainly had a flair for writing. He taught literature according to his autobiography, which doesn't mean he was ready to write on his own..but it left him better prepared than the math, science or music oriented players. I think it's clear he found his "voice" shall we say as a writer. |
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Jan-10-08 | | MaxxLange: I think Tal studied journalism in his student days, so he had some instruction in writing. |
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Jan-10-08 | | whatthefat: Yes, Tal did a lot of work as a chess journalist. He also had quite an interest in literature; quoting from wikipedia: <Tal graduated in Literature from the University of Riga, writing a thesis on the satirical works of Ilf and Petrov, and taught school in Riga for a time in his early 20s.> |
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Jan-11-08 | | kellmano: Yes, I htink he has his own voice, but it is not one that i find appealing. Did anyone else find that he made a lot of excuses for himself as well, and too often made a lot of the fact that he could've won in a prosaic manner, but went for something spectacular and lost? I'm not digging at Tal. Love his playing, smoking, drinking etc. Just something that occurred to me as i read htis very enjoyable book. |
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Jan-11-08 | | whatthefat: I thought the opposite personally. Specifically, if you compare his lack of excuses regarding the 1961 match loss with Gallagher's coverage of the serious health issues he had at the time, I considered Tal to be quite self-effacing. "I think that I lost to him, because he beat me! He was very well-prepared for the second match. Botvinnik knew my play better than I knew his." [Tal-Botvinnik World Championship Return Match (1961) ] |
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Jan-11-08 | | kellmano: I respect you may have had a different viewpoint and it would be interesting to see what others think. You have cited one example, but i suggest that if i had my copy with me, I could cite a fair few where he says, or rather suggests, that he only lost due to searching for an aesthetically pleasing finish. This may well be true of course, but it grates with me a little, as it could be interpreted as saying 'well, i would have beat him if i wasn't trying to be flash'. |
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Jan-12-08 | | talisman: <kellmano> many times tal does say that he had "caught a cold" in explaining a loss.i think <whatthefat> hits the nail on the head when referring to the big picture.the one loss the Big Loss, Tal doesn't make any excuses, when he had every right to, and should've been probably been in a hospital or recuperating.So i guess what i'm saying is the one(61) outweighs all the colds big time. |
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Jan-14-08 | | PositionalBomber: What is the best Tal's sacrifice? I was thinking Bobotsov vs Tal, 1958 but there are so much possibilities! |
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Jan-14-08 | | whatthefat: <PositionalBomber>
The thing with that game is that it was probably inspired by either Zamikhovsky vs Nezhmetdinov, 1956 or Spassky vs Bronstein, 1956 If I had to choose (and it is very difficult), I'd probably go with Tal vs Hecht, 1962 |
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Jan-14-08 | | ughaibu: Whatthefat: But which sacrifice? |
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Jan-14-08 | | whatthefat: <ughaibu>
Well, I meant the queen sacrifice, but I am including the combination that goes along with it, so maybe that's cheating. :) |
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Jan-15-08 | | kellmano: I have never understood the Tal quote: "There are two types of sacrafices: correct ones and mine." I understand he is saying that not all his sacrafices are objectively correct (i.e. do not necessarily lead to win against perfect defence), but he seems also to be saying that all incorrect sacrafices are 'his'. Meaning every sacrafice I have ever performed is his. It surprises me that he would want to be associated with them. |
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Jan-15-08 | | brankat: <kellmano> Tal was joking. At the same time he was responding to his numerous "critics". An example along the same lines can be found in Tal's reply to those who had been comparing him to Dr.Lasker: "Oh no, there is a big difference there." replied Tal "They say Lasker was lost in every second game he had played. As for me, they say I was lost in every games I had played." Of course, for any joke to be funny, there must be an element of truth in it, so people can relate to the story. |
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Jan-16-08 | | rusich: Another Russian magician |
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Jan-16-08 | | JYMMI: Tal was Latvian. |
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Jan-16-08 | | MaxxLange: They are all Russians to me! |
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Jan-16-08 | | Legend: <rusich: Another Russian magician> As it says in your profile, you are yourself from Latvia. How can you call Tal a Russian? |
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Jan-16-08 | | JYMMI: <Legend: <rusich: Another Russian magician>>He explained himself about it previously here: Spiridonov vs Tal, 1969 |
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