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TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
Bosna Sarajevo Tournament

Vladimir Malakhov5.5/10(+2 -1 =7)[games]
Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu5.5/10(+2 -1 =7)[games]
Magnus Carlsen5.5/10(+1 -0 =9)[games]
Borki Predojevic5/10(+2 -2 =6)[games]
Krishnan Sasikiran4.5/10(+2 -3 =5)[games]
Arkadij Naiditsch4/10(+1 -3 =6)[games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 30  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Nisipeanu vs Sasikiran 1-0512006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC67 Ruy Lopez
2. Carlsen vs V Malakhov ½-½492006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB35 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Modern Variation with Bc4
3. Naiditsch vs B Predojevic ½-½392006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC77 Ruy Lopez
4. Sasikiran vs B Predojevic 0-1392006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentD85 Grunfeld
5. V Malakhov vs Naiditsch 1-0332006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
6. Nisipeanu vs Carlsen ½-½202006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB35 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Modern Variation with Bc4
7. B Predojevic vs V Malakhov ½-½252006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB30 Sicilian
8. Naiditsch vs Nisipeanu  ½-½262006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB19 Caro-Kann, Classical
9. Carlsen vs Sasikiran ½-½372006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentA15 English
10. Sasikiran vs V Malakhov  ½-½1182006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentD15 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
11. Nisipeanu vs B Predojevic  ½-½212006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC80 Ruy Lopez, Open
12. Carlsen vs Naiditsch ½-½462006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentA34 English, Symmetrical
13. Naiditsch vs Sasikiran 0-1312006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC91 Ruy Lopez, Closed
14. B Predojevic vs Carlsen 0-1402006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB96 Sicilian, Najdorf
15. V Malakhov vs Nisipeanu ½-½442006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB20 Sicilian
16. B Predojevic vs Naiditsch 1-0332006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB91 Sicilian, Najdorf, Zagreb (Fianchetto) Variation
17. V Malakhov vs Carlsen  ½-½402006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB33 Sicilian
18. Sasikiran vs Nisipeanu  0-1672006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
19. B Predojevic vs Sasikiran  ½-½352006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC69 Ruy Lopez, Exchange, Gligoric Variation
20. Naiditsch vs V Malakhov  ½-½352006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB36 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto
21. Carlsen vs Nisipeanu  ½-½262006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB65 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...Be7 Defense, 9...Nxd4
22. Sasikiran vs Carlsen ½-½1032006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentE37 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
23. V Malakhov vs B Predojevic  1-0332006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentC55 Two Knights Defense
24. Nisipeanu vs Naiditsch 0-1582006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB86 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
25. V Malakhov vs Sasikiran  0-1552006Bosna Sarajevo TournamentB20 Sicilian
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May-16-06
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  notyetagm: <Xaurus: According to this page Carlsen and Nisipeanu has an even tiebreak:>

So what is the tiebreak formula at Sarajevo?

Carlsen and Nisipeanu both finished at +1 with the same S-B score of 27.00. They also drew both of their head-to-head games.

So does Nisipeanu win the tie-break because he had more wins (2) than Magnus (1)?

May-16-06  fxenderby: well.. with all the difference in time zones, the ending ceremony mus have already happened in sarajevo.. i wonder if no one can tell what happened to the first place trophy..
May-16-06  fxenderby: I don't know why ('cause I don't know any "bosnian"..), but the official page lists nisipeanu as the winner in group A.
May-16-06  virginmind: the oficial site sould tell us...but they don't. yet. :(
May-16-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <fxenderby: I don't know why ('cause I don't know any "bosnian"..), but the official page lists nisipeanu as the winner in group A.>

Nispeanu probably wins the tie-break because he had more wins than Carlsen.

May-16-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: "Fritz doesnt know anything about these positions."

I wonder when computers will be able to play endgames at a grandmaster level.

May-16-06  jperr75108: No official winner yet?
May-17-06  virginmind: today all the official page says is listing nisipeanu on the first position. on their photo galery there is no photo from the closing ceremony.

well, if nisipeanu is first, then i congratulate him

May-17-06  virginmind: for some reason (non-native english speaker) i thought tie-breaks means (include) some rapid and/or blitz games between those who share first position with equal number of points :) i guess this is done only in matches.
May-17-06  EeEk: Nisipeanu won officially, but they split the prize money.
May-17-06  sagahelten: That's funny. chessbase.de says that Carlsen has a better correction. (22 against 21.75)

http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten...

May-17-06  Xaurus: <That's funny. chessbase.de says that Carlsen has a better correction. (22 against 21.75)>That's round 9 of 10, not 10 of 10.
May-17-06  AdrianP: 20 games out of 30 drawn. That's a terrible percentage.
May-17-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  acirce: I still don't understand what people can possibly have against draws, but it is an interesting phenomenon to try to analyse. Why is it that a hard-fought draw is less appreciated than a little-fought decisive game like Kamsky-Svidler? Reflection of our times or human nature?
May-17-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <acirce> Not all draws in this tournament are exactly "hard-fought". Take a look at this one for instance: Nisipeanu vs V Malakhov, 2006

Then again, you have games like this one: Sasikiran vs V Malakhov, 2006

May-17-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  acirce: <EmperorAtahualpa> I know, I have looked at all the games myself. That has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
May-17-06  cannibal: chessbase.de says that in the game against Carlsen, Predojevic had "decisive advantage in the endgame", which he "dropped because of an inaccuracy". They don't have any analysis yet, so does anybody have an idea which move(s) they refer to?
May-17-06  Fischeristhebest: <acirce> I for one did not appreciate Kamsky-Svidler very much, in fact I would have played Nd5 even if it was a blitz game.
May-17-06  LoFarkas: <cannibal>: I answered on the page of the game here: Carlsen vs B Predojevic, 2006
May-17-06  scholar: Hi! Anyone know a website with good analysis of the Bosna games?
May-18-06  scholar: Never mind, I found some from Zagrebelny at
http://www.64.ru/?/ru/articles/item...
and at
http://www.64.ru/?/ru/articles/item...
May-19-06  Mulholland: <acirce: I still don't understand what people can possibly have against draws> Very good point. The same phenomenon may be seen in soccer games, where many people feel that a draw is a disappointment. In Norway, one year we even decided every drawn match in the premium series by penalty shootout. Even if the there are many goals and high quality of the play, we tend to enjoy the match even better when its a final decision. We like to see a boxer win by knock out, probably because its satisfactory to see a winner of a fight, to decide who was the best, at least in that particular event. Your point, of course, is that the beauty of the game, the soccer match or the boxing event (uh, not sure if that should be phrased a beauty) should be enough. Players must learn how to appreciate to defend a lost position, the spectators must probably learn the same.
May-20-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <Mulholland: <acirce: I still don't understand what people can possibly have against draws> Very good point. The same phenomenon may be seen in soccer games, where many people feel that a draw is a disappointment. In Norway, one year we even decided every drawn match in the premium series by penalty shootout. Even if the there are many goals and high quality of the play, we tend to enjoy the match even better when its a final decision. ...>

I think most soccer fans will admire a 4:4 tie more than a 1:0 decision -- especially if the number of 'chances' (goal-posts, x-bars, fast breaks, fingertip saves) is commensurate. It realy is the drama aspect of the game. Trouble is, most 0:0 ties are bland; and so are many cautiously played chess draws, especially GM draws.

May-20-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: I have nothing against draws or ties as long as they are interesting and hard fought.
May-20-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: Yes, I have nothing against an exciting or hard-fought draw. It's just that the "GM draws" are no where near exciting or hard-fought as the famous Fischer vs Tal, 1960 draw from the Leipzig Olympiad.
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