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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"At the Top" (game of the day Jun-13-2019)
Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006), Elista RUS, rd 2, Sep-24
Slav Defense: Czech Variation. Classical System (D18)  ·  0-1

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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik (2006) At the Top
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Jun-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Carlsen would probably have snatched the crown from Topalov by now.
Sep-11-14  Boris Schipkov: This interesting game with my notes http://www.chessib.com/kratop6g2.html.
Dec-09-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <"I think he's just the most favoured player in history. He played several matches for the world title but in fact he never really deserved this because he didn't qualify, there were just some political decisions. He never qualified like for example Magnus did or now Vishy Anand."

"Several years ago [the ethics commission of FIDE] tried to investigate his behaviour and then it suddenly turned out that many hours of his behaviour were missing because organisers they destroyed it.... It even becomes more suspicious... The reason they were destroyed because everyone would see that the members of my delegation were right and this is what I believe." ~ Veselin Topalov ~>

It's been eight long years since Elista, and Topa still clinging to this nonsense?

Topa missed a mate in three moves in one of those games!

This one!

If Vlad was cheating with an engine, (as Topa claimed) then surely Kramnik would not have fallen into a losing position like mate in three?!

Topalov lost this game AND the match because he let Danailov, and his own raw emotions get the better of him.

May-17-15  RookFile: What a game. Topalov had winning and drawing chances all along the way, and ends up losing it.
May-18-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <notyetagm:...A great example for the need of <FLExIBILITY IN THINKING> in chess.>

A great example of <A LOWER CASE LETTER INVADING A STRING OF CAPITALS>.

May-09-16  maxi: <RookFile: What a game. Topalov had winning and drawing chances all along the way, and ends up losing it.> That's what happens when you let Kramnik take a pee.
May-09-16  Mr. Bojangles: It is amazing that it has been 10 years since this match 🙄🙄

Gosh we had a blast on this site. It was a great party in hell during and after the match here.

Great times 🍺🍺

Nov-28-16  RookFile: Toiletgate aside, this is an amazing game, warts and all, showing great imagination by both players.
Aug-11-18  dumbgai: It's been 12 years since Toiletgate and I still think this is still the most interesting world championship game in the post-Kasparov era. Kramnik and Bareev have separately provided excellent annotations to the moves.
Nov-02-18  bkpov: 36. Bh6! Am I missing something
Nov-02-18
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  Clement Fraud: <bkpov> <36. Bh6! Am I missing something>

Not as far as I can see Mr bkpov (although my playing strength is not great); 36.Bh6 appears to win black's dark squared Bishop without any compromise: I don't have time (nor the patience) to sift my way through seventy-four pages of Kibitzing remarks, but I feel sure that a winning shot like 36.Bh6 will have been covered extensively in previous entries. 36.Rc1 does seem rather labored by Topalov... maybe he was in a bad mood at the time?

Nov-02-18
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  Dionysius1: How so <bkpov>? SF at 28 ply gives that as dead level. Whether from a bkpov or a whpov :-)
Nov-03-18
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  Clement Fraud: My apologies to bkpov and Dionysius1: One possible line I've been musing is 36.Bh6 Qe4 37.Qxe4 dxe4 38.Nh2 e3 39.Bxg7 e2 40.Nf3 ... but with black still having two connected passers on the Queen's Rook & Knight files... I really don't know?!
Nov-04-18
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  Dionysius1: What did you have in mind after 37. ♗xg7 ? Seems a win for White.
Jun-13-19  dumbgai: Ah, this game again for GOTD. Possibly the most interesting game from a WCh match since the Kasparov era.
Jun-13-19  Ironmanth: Still and ever one of my favorite games! Great attack that sadly just missed. Thanks, chessgames.
Jun-13-19
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  HeMateMe: terrific match, I remember following this one, thinking VK would never be able to recover from the forfeited game.
Jun-13-19  cormier: 31. gf8Q Bf8? 31...Kxf8 32.Qg6 Qe2 33.Qxg4 Bg5 34.Qh5 Ke7 35.Qh7+ Kd8 = 0.00 (36 ply)
Aug-25-19  ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Wow,
The game is kinda interesting! It looks like it has been discussed to the enth degree! One that caught my eyes thought that the cheating allegations should be brought up again! What about THE FACT that There IS NO PROOF that ANY CHEATING Ever Happened! Further that in a COMPUTER Analysis it was Topalov That had a higher percentage Closer to a Computer? Hmmm... I Know.... TOPALOV was CHEATING!!! What about the fact that they don't even shake hands anymore? I've bought the Tmt book by topalov. It is full of his CRYING! No PROOF of anything was ever presented. Topalov is just a POOR SPORT! That is a FACT!! ACME KING KRUSHER!
Nov-04-20
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  fredthebear: A short video showing how White could have won round 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4...
Dec-14-23  Petrosianic: To save you the trouble of watching a whole video:

32. Rxg4+ Bg7 33. Qc7!

Dec-14-23
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  Check It Out: Thanks, <Petro>, I'm a bit wary of Fred's links. That's a huge swing between 32.Qg6+ and the variation you posted.
Aug-27-25  Petrosianic: I really think this game is a pivotal moment in chess history. Had Topalov played 32. Rxg4+ he would surely have won the game, and had he won the game, the whole Toiletgate Scandal would probably never have happened. Danailov wouldn't have been desperate enough to need to fight dirty.

I'm looking at Topalov's Toilet War book, which I'd highly recommend for the game notes, if not for the commentary. Here's how Topalov describes the critical sequence:

<TOPALOV:

31. gxf8=Q+

At this point I was in an excellent mood, and my feeling was that the game would not last too long, but then I saw 31...Kxf8! 32. Qg6 Qe2 33. Qxg4 Bg5!!, and thereafter could find nothing to quell my fears. Of course, White had a draw if he wanted, but that was not the result I wanted from this fantastic game. Still looking for a win after 31...Kxf8!, I paid no attention at all to the possibility of 31...Bxf8, a move I had already dismissed as inferior.

31...Bxf8?

Apparently Kramnik could not find 33... Bg5!! in the line of the previous note, so he decided Black had better chances if he takes with the bishop. It is easy to miss such a move, as looking at the position it is hard to believe the black king can escape mate. For me Kramnik's mistake had also another meaning, very important for the whole match: it meant that Kramnik still made the simple blunders he had made in the past, especially in the year 2005.

Blunders as in the 2005 M-Tel Masters in Sofia, in his game with Black against Anand, where after thinking for more than half an hour Kramnik lost a piece, or in the game against me from the same tournament. There he first missed a two-move line that won a piece, and some moves later left his knight en prise. So I realized that after all this time my opponent still had the same weaknesses! These were the thoughts that crossed my mind, and despite their positive nature, they probably were, ironically, the reason I lost my concentration.

32. Qg6??

This I played rather quickly, as for me this move looked strong and very natural. As we both learned after the game, 32. Rxg4+! Bg7 33. Qc7! wins immediately. This means that with his last move Kramnik had simultaneously made two mistakes in his calculations. first he missed an easy win for White after 31...Bxf8, and secondly he could not find 33...Bg5!!, a move I have to say is not obvious.>

And this sequence, as much as any, gives you a picture of Topalov's mind, and why you really should read this book, "On the Edge in Elista", available on Kindle.

One thing that's immediately apparent is that Topalov is an excellent annotator. He doesn't just spout engine lines, he gives you an insight into what was going on in his mind, and why he played certain moves. This is exactly the kind of thing I want from an annotator. I can generate engine lines myself. Contrast this with Kasparov, who, in My Great Predecessors, sort of sniffed at this style of annotating, and said that back in the day annotators felt they had to tell a story. That's exactly right, they DO. Because nowadays everybody has an engine, so an annotator has to say things that people can't just generate for themselves.

Another thing that's apparent is that Topalov, though, in my opinion is basically "honest", meaning he believes what he says, has a very slanted way of looking at things. Kramnik's Bxf8?? proves that he's still the same old guy who makes simple mistakes, while Topalov's Qg6+?? is just a natural mistake, with no special significance attached. (Since Topalov feels that all 3 games he lost were due to such simple mistakes, maybe they are significant). In fact, throughout the whole book, Topalov's attitude is "I played much better than Kramnik... except for the blunders." That describes pretty much every game I ever lost, so I'm glad Topalov feels the same way. But at the same time, Topalov isn't completely unobjective, as he does admit that 33...Bg5!! is not easy to find.

If you know how to read through the lines, this is an excellent book, well worth purchasing. Like Tal's even-better book on the 1960 World Championship, it really gives you a vivid picture on what was going through a player's mind as he competed for the world championship.

Aug-27-25  Petrosianic: Here's the 2005 game that Topalov mentioned:

TOPALOV: <Blunders as in the 2005 M-Tel Masters in Sofia, ... in the game against me... There he first missed a two-move line that won a piece, and some moves later left his knight en prise. So I realized that after all this time my opponent still had the same weaknesses! These were the thoughts that crossed my mind, and despite their positive nature, they probably were, ironically, the reason I lost my concentration.>

Kramnik vs Topalov, 2005

This game is a perfect example of his slanted thinking. This is a sloppy game at the end, where Topalov made the proverbial next-to-last mistake. In Topalov's mind, 31. Nc7?? and 34. Nc1?? prove that Kramnik is still the same old fish he always was. But 29...Qb7?? and 30... Qxb2?? don't prove anything about Topalov. Nor does the fact that in his very next move in this game, he threw away a sure win.

This kind of fact fudging is the way Topalov is able to believe that all three of his losses in this match were due to blunders (which I agree with, BTW), and at the same time believe that it's Kramnik, not him, who's blunder-prone.

Aug-28-25  Petrosianic: A great Topalov comment on this game:

<TOPALOV:

40...Qf5!

No matter what the evaluation of this position, Black has already achieved one victory: matters will now be decided in the endgame, and this fact irritated me greatly.>

I love his candor. You'd better believe that's how he felt after what happened earlier. But not everybody would admit it.

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