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|Jun-28-11|| ||MaxxLange: what were you guys rated, at that time? 2000? 2200?|
|Jun-28-11|| ||MaxxLange: 1800?|
|Jun-28-11|| ||MaxxLange: Tate sometimes used to reminisce about those Chicago days, "when I was a young, attacking player" - before he made a name for himself as a Master, which he did in the early '80's, winning the US Armed Forces chess tournament 5 times, and getting sent off to play in the NATO chess competitions against the Russian Bear|
|Jun-28-11|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @Maxx Lange
I've never been one who thought it necessary to point out the colour or gender of someone who has achieved success.
I understand where you are coming from if: a) pointing it out deflates chauvinism, racism and bigotry, as evidenced in that dreadful account of stormfront's nazi goons; b) it encourages e.g. blacks or women to play chess or endeavour to follow and emulate someone in something considered as a white, male field. (Positive role models.)
Anyway -- less politics, more chess! He winning the IM title at least shows some older players can continue to maintain a high standard of play, whereas the usual story is players start to lose their strength with age.
|Jun-28-11|| ||MaxxLange: <SimonWebbsTiger>
right on! we are all human beings crawling around the Earth. IT SHOULDN'T make any difference if we are man or girl, or if we are black or white.
"Way back when all your love was the greasepaint/And not the collection plate
So much for the funny face
All I Can say is, too much, too little, too late"
|Jun-28-11|| ||MaxxLange: here we are, on the crazy Earth....things do not go as planned, every day.|
|Jun-28-11|| ||FSR: <MaxxLange: what were you guys rated, at that time? 2000? 2200?>|
I'm guessing we were both somewhere around 2000 to 2100.
|Jun-30-11|| ||MaxxLange: <FSR> thanks! I always enjoy hearing this kind of old chess lore, from the '70's. I'd love to have seen those games!|
<SimonWebbsTiger> I want to apologize for making a flippant response to your very well-stated and thoughtful point. I do agree with you - these identity politics should go to the background, as our society (we hope) advances.
|Dec-05-11|| ||Mudphudder: This guy is amazing. Attacks with the ferocity that is only surpassed by perhaps Tal. I have seen very few modern day players that attack with such ruthless deliverance of piece sacrifcies.|
|Sep-05-12|| ||Wyatt Gwyon: Remember the time Tate kicked the livin' $h1t out of A.J. Goldsby?|
|Oct-17-12|| ||Richard Taylor: I think it is significant that he is African-American and it would be interesting to know the percentage over the course of this century of non-European masters or players. Or better to have simply how many more are participating. |
It shouldn't be a matter of comment (negative) but these things can show how "barriers are broken down" and so on.
I can see how it is problematic though. But it is good to see more non-Europeans doing well or even just "giving chess a go"...
|Dec-13-12|| ||Nightsurfer: <Mudphudder> Thank you for underlining the courageous attacking style of Emory A Tate. I am convinced that his fearless attitude has something to do with the fact that Emory A Tate is - side by side with Joshua Waitzkin - one of the supporters of the <Hip Hop Chess Federation (HHCF)>.|
Herewith a video that shows Emory A Tate giving a lecture at an event that has been organized by the <HHCF> and that has been attended by <RZA>, <Rakaa> of <Dilated Peoples> and others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3e...
The goal of the <HHCF>: merging Hip-Hop, Chess and Martial Arts, as <HHCF>-Founder <Adisa Banjoko> has put it in an interview that he has granted to the German daily <"neues deutschland"> in 2012, here you can read that interview online: http://www.neues-deutschland.de/art...
And herewith a video that has been produced by <HHCF> on <HHCF>: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irYw... ...
The first tournament that has been organized by the HHCF has been covered by TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEL... ... check it out!
|Dec-13-12|| ||Nightsurfer: The kids pf the <HHCF> have challenged <President Obama> to support the <HHCF Ryan Academy> in Norfolk, Virgiania - herewith the two corresponding clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr57... and the follow-up production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEEX... - , and the kids have been supported by their Moms, since the Moms have asked <President Obama> for <" ... please ..."> hosting <"... HHCF to play at White House ...">, herewith the corresponding clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIgi... ... that has been in 2009, but the answer seems to be still pending!|
Hey, Mr. Prez, listen to the kids!
|Dec-13-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <Wyatt: Remember the time Tate kicked the livin' $h1t out of A.J. Goldsby?>|
Only because he borrowed Naka's engine.
|Dec-13-12|| ||Nightsurfer: <OhioChessFan: ... only because he borrowed Naka's egine ...> I do not understand what you mean by posting that: Do you want to hint that <Tate>'s cheated?!|
|Dec-13-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Old joke here, not sure from what page, and kibitzing on Goldsby games has been deleted.|
|Dec-13-12|| ||perfidious: <Nightsurfer>: The remark by <OCF> was definitely a running joke at one time, because <AJ> accused Nakamura of cheating to win the following game: Nakamura vs A J Goldsby, 2003. |
No insinuation whatever is being made regarding Tate's conduct; moreover, he's more than strong enough to beat the spots off Goldsby.
It should be noted that <AJ> also accused at least one far weaker opponent who managed to defeat him online of computer assistance as well (I Sabau vs A J Goldsby, 2003).
|Dec-14-12|| ||Nightsurfer: <Jim Bartle> and <perfidious> I see, that was a running joke back then, I did not know that, thank you very much for the information! :-)|
|Dec-14-12|| ||FSR: <Nightsurfer> Here's an October 9, 2011 comment I made to the aforementioned
Nakamura vs A J Goldsby, 2003 game:|
<Here is the complete list of AJ's losses in the CG.com database: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... As you can see, four of them are Internet games. As shown below, in each of those games, AJ stated that his opponent definitely or may have used a computer to cheat.
A Diaz vs A J Goldsby, 2003:
<Aug-11-10 LIFE Master AJ: ... For all I know, my opponent used a computer. If you check all of White's moves carefully, they match up to a version of Crafy almost 100%.>
S Minero Pineda vs A J Goldsby, 2003:
<Sep-08-05 LIFE Master AJ: White wins, but many of the guys (in this tournament) obviously used a computer. (Whether this one did or not, I am unsure.)>
I Sabau vs A J Goldsby, 2003:
<Sep-08-05 LIFE Master AJ: Obviously a comp user.>
Nakamura vs A J Goldsby, 2003:
<Sep-08-05 LIFE Master AJ: Its interesting to see just how many moves here ... match those of a popular chess engine (for White).
And if you don't think it does not happen ... I just happened to log onto ICC one day. "Nak" and some other player had just finished their game. I don't even remember who won, but I do know BOTH parties were busy PUBLICLY accusing their opponent of cheating!!!>
Of course, when AJ's <own> moves match those of a popular chess engine, that proves only that he's a genius.
A J Goldsby vs V Hodgson, 2009:
<Oct-29-10 LIFE Master AJ: ... Fritz shows NO IMPROVEMENTS on White's play ... none at all.) I am very proud of this fact.>
|Dec-14-12|| ||TheFocus: I bet he doesn't post those 2 games he just lost in Dothan.|
|Dec-14-12|| ||Riverbeast: In the Soviet Union, they called Tal the White Tate!|
|Dec-14-12|| ||TheFocus: I wonder who <AJ>'s counterpart would be?|
|Dec-14-12|| ||Jim Bartle: No one. He's unique.|
|Dec-14-12|| ||TheFocus: Lucky us.|
|Dec-14-12|| ||Tomlinsky: <I wonder who <AJ>'s counterpart would be?>|
The Ginger Ninja?
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