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|Feb-13-14|| ||offramp: That Quatrain again, line by line.
<Les deux mers unis, Negre et Dies.>
"The two seas united, Black and Dead."
Another way of saying the former is <Black-Mar>; the latter Dies-Mer or <Diemer>.
<L'homme riche il dévoile en avant.>
"The rich man unfolds in front"
The rich man is the e-pawn, from the Tinker, Tailor nursery rhyme. The defining move of the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit is <2.e2-e4>.
<Lacus Venetus, scaccus et ries,>
Lacus Venetus: Lake Constance. On the shores of this lake is <Radolfzell>, where Diemer was born. Scaccus et ries means "plays and laughs".
<Le Roi joue au Trabant.>
The King plays in Brabant. I am sure that the last word is Brabant. Beverwijk is in the Brabant.
|Feb-13-14|| ||Stonehenge: Beverwijk is not in the province of (North) Brabant.|
|Feb-13-14|| ||thomastonk: <Lacus Venetus: Lake Constance.> Lacus Venetus denotes only a part of Lake Constance, the so-called "Obersee" (upper lake).|
I also doubt that the translation of <Scaccus> is correct.
|Apr-26-14|| ||Rookiepawn: A nazi scum first, and a wacky prophet later, certainly not the best of mankind.|
I like some of his games though. Not brilliant imho, but with that "caffe-chess" flavor that makes them fancy.
Let's say Tal is Bruce Lee, then Diemer is some good alley gang fighter. Can't compare.
|Apr-29-14|| ||whiteshark: Exclamation marks! don't! make! always! sense!|
|Apr-29-14|| ||perfidious: <whiteshark> Why? not?|
|Apr-29-14|| ||whiteshark: Because!
(An homage to Diemer's well-balanced annotations)
|May-03-14|| ||juan31: The ideas in the field of chess of Master Diemer are uniques, maybe he was political incorrect but this site is. Chessgames.com, i want to see many of his critiics play the half of the briilance of Diemer.|
|Jan-04-15|| ||GoldenBird: Eww Blackmar Diemer gambit, after 1.d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Nxf3, black has so many options to equalize, including c6 the O'kelly defense, Bg4, the Teichmann variation, and e6, the Euwe variation|
|Jan-08-15|| ||GoldenBird: And also, if you are asking, 'What about the Ryder Gambit'?. After 1.d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf4 5. Qxf3 c6 and the queen must move to f2 and white has nothing of an advantage.|
|Jan-23-15|| ||GoldenBird: In all of the games here, Diemer plays a question gambit (BDG), his opponent responds questionably. Diemer goes pew pew pew, sacrifices something, and wins.|
|Mar-08-15|| ||HeMateMe: Could this be the first chess player who was committed to the rubber room but was later released?|
"Alas, he was unable to repeat these successes. Diemer became less interested in chess, and increasingly obsessed by Nostradamus, the famous 16th century French clairvoyant. He believed that he had cracked the great seer's secret code, and during a period of 25 years he is said to have mailed over 10,000 letters on this subject.
In 1965 Diemer was committed to a psychiatric clinic. The doctors considered that chess was too much of a strain for his nerves, and forbade him to play the game. In six years this order was rescinded, and Diemer, while no longer in form, nonetheless took great enjoyment in his return. In 1976 he won the Senior Master tournament at the Baden Chess Congress."
Just think how many emails he could have sent, had he been born later!
|Sep-26-15|| ||Esauwept: I don't think Nazi players belong in the database. Am deeply offended!! And amazed at your bad taste and political naiveté.|
|Oct-02-15|| ||keypusher: <Esauwept: I don't think Nazi players belong in the database. Am deeply offended!! And amazed at your bad taste and political naiveté.>|
Better get rid of Alekhine's and Fischer's games too, eh, esauwept? That will certainly make the site more respectable.
|Oct-02-15|| ||Olavi: The bio is very uncomplete, in matters chess. He had a great follower in Heinz Gerhart Gunderam whose various publications, alas, I am not able to point you to at the moment. The Vienna master Müller and Gunderam had some heated discussions about these openings in the pages of Schach-Echo, and the old Sâmisch put in his word also. About Diemer, J.H.Donner wrote some, included in The King.|
|Apr-18-16|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Emil Joseph (Josef) Diemer (15 May 1908 in Radolfzell – 10 October 1990 in Fussbach/Gengenbach) was a German chess master. -wiki|
Anyway, he has a lovely profile pic.
|May-16-16|| ||dernier loup de T: Esauwept, believe me when I say to you that I hate both Nazis and antisemitism; I despite Diemer as man, but he played some good ans unique chess even he was not a genius; and in my opinion, the politic should not interfere withe chess appreciation...
Or we would have to reject too Fischer, Alekine and why not Kortchnoï from an psychiatric or anticommunist point of view, and Karpov for the opposite one;
just look where would lead the ultimate results of your logic, please, Esauwept...|
|May-24-16|| ||Castleinthesky: I can smell him just by looking at his picture. Let's open a window and vent out the room.|
|May-26-16|| ||posoo: dang LOOK at dis guy! He looks a lot like da old posoo's FATHER. Except dat man was a different story.|
OH BUT MAN
|Dec-26-16|| ||zanzibar: Here is an in-depth bio of the player:
by Hans Ree (the above link should probably go in the bio).
An extensive excerpt...
<Very strong Diemer certainly was not. Nevertheless, in the fifties and sixties he had a flock of disciples in Germany and also in the Netherlands. He was the prophet of relentless aggression in chess.
"Play the Blackmar-Diemer gambit and mate will come by itself!" he wrote. "The Blackmar gambit changes the whole man!" In this he was completely serious.
In 1996 the German Manfred Maedler Verlag published a biography of Diemer, written by one of his most faithful followers, Georg Studier: Emil Joseph Diemer. Ein Leben für das Schach im Spiegel der Zeiten  (A life for chess in the mirror of time) The biography has 280 pages.
Some world champions are still waiting for such homage.
Studier has great admiration and sympathy for Diemer. He calls him a man of unusual genius. Diemer's simul tours are described as triumphal processions. Still the book has not become a hagiography, because there was too much in Diemer's life which is repulsive and which Studier couldn't and wouldn't suppress. [Diemer cartoon]
cartoon by Eric Petit
In 1931 Diemer was out of work. He had been fired from a small job at a publisher's house. He was not fit for a job. Like many other malcontents he became a member of the NSDAP, the German Nazi party, and was thrown out of the house by his father the same day.
Diemer was never well able to take care of himself, but as a Nazi it was easier than before. Not that he had become a party member out of opportunism. He was a fanatic, in everything he did. He was a relentless agitator for the party in the years that the Nazi's romantically called the "Kampfzeit," the years of struggle before they took power. Diemer made new friends and now it was possible for him to become a professional chessplayer. He became the "chess reporter of the Great German Reich," was present at all important international chess events and sang the praise of "Kampfschach," chess as a struggle, in the Nazi newspapers and magazines. He did not earn much money and even then he was dependent, as he would be till the end of his life, on admirers to support him in his penury. >
|Dec-26-16|| ||john barleycorn: < zanzibar: ...
by Hans Ree ...
An extensive excerpt...
<Very strong Diemer certainly was not. ...>>
Did not know that Ree was a fore-runner of Yoda.
“PATIENCE YOU MUST HAVE my young padawan”
|Dec-26-16|| ||zanzibar: Ha! Took me a second to realize exactly what you were saying - I first thought I had screwed up the ref.|
In a sense, it turns out that maybe I did, in the sense that there's a German translation available, which reads:
<Sehr stark war Diemer nicht.>
I think it kinda reads the same, but I little know German.
|Dec-26-16|| ||john barleycorn: <zanzibar: ...
<Sehr stark war Diemer nicht.>>
Translates to "Very strong Diemer was not"
I would prefer "Diemer war nicht sehr stark" which is "Diemer was not very strong".
Anyway, Ree is Dutch so his effort for linguistic wizardry is forgiven :-)
|May-15-17|| ||waustad: I remember playing somebody in the bar who started playing a BDG line against me and I thought that I'd avoid it. After I'd won the game I started showing him BDG lines and it was clear he'd never heard of it and that I wasn't stepping into a prepared variation.|
|May-15-17|| ||Nf3em: <"Diemer played many unorthodox openings, but is most famous for his refinements to an old idea by Armand Edward Blackmar, commonly known as the Blackmar-Diemer gambit, 1. d4 d5 2. e4. It is described in his book, Vom Ersten Zug an auf Matt!"> |
A kin of favorite gambit line: 1. Nf3 d5 2. e4 ... ;-)
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