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|May-22-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: P.S. Cukierman (and there's no guarantee at all that he's the chess player) could also have qualified as ""missing or disappeared", " if he fled the country before 3 July 1941.|
At any rate, the only definite conclusion that can be drawn from those publications is that they're pretty worthless when it comes to proving what happened to the chessplayer C and when.
|May-22-18|| ||MissScarlett: <What happened on Nov. 4 1942?>|
The newspaper account you were reading was published.
<on 3 July, 1941 a trustee was appointed to manage and liquidate C's apartment as a "Jew who was missing or had disappeared", so he must have been deported or killed before then>
I'm not aware of Jews in France who were killed or deported prior to July 3rd 1941. Maybe this Cukierman actually had disappeared. He could've been in, say, Castres, or hiding in a neighbour's attic.
<As to determining the actual fate of Cukierman (usually spelled Zuckermann, a very common German-Jewish name so there's no reason to assume it's the same one),>
Here, at least, we're in agreement.
|May-22-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: It's true that he could have fled or gone into hiding, as I added in my P.S., but I wouldn't discount the possibility of foul play given that the avowed purpose of that law was described as: <Art. 1. - En vue d'éliminer toute influence juive dans l'économie nationale, le commissaire général aux questions juives peut nommer un administrateur provisoire ŕ:> [confiscate Jewish property]. |
You're right that the main deportations didn't begin until 1942, but the concentration camps began earlier, at least according to this source (http://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/...
<From winter 1940-1941 French Jews began to be imprisoned in concentration camps. Thousands of Jews were imprisoned in camps in the vicinity of Paris and Southwestern France. In May 1941 many more thousands of Jews were arrested>.
Anyway, the connection with C. the chessplayer is so tenuous that it's probably not worth pursuing.
|May-22-18|| ||zanzibar: <<CHC> Anyway, the connection with C. the chessplayer is so tenuous that it's probably not worth pursuing.>|
I don't think it's quite so tenuous, nor do I think it not worth pursuing(*).
(*) Of course, the fact that the French at the heritage cite haven't found more information suggests it will be very difficult to find out additional details about his death.
|May-22-18|| ||hemy: Apparently Cukierman was a medical doctor, in 1931 he was a medicine student.|
1931.01.03 "Rigasche Rundschau" page 15:
"Pariser Schachmeisterschaft. Ein von 18 Spielern bestrittenes Turnier um die Meisterschaft von Paris ging soeben zu Ende. Sieger wurde mit 14 1/2 Punkten ein junger polnischer Medizin student namens Cukierman, während sich
der Großmeister Tartakower mit dem 2. Preis (13 Punkte) begnügen mußte."
|May-23-18|| ||zanzibar: <hemy> Yes, his thesis was on Typhus and was referenced above.|
He's referred as "Dr. Cukierman" in the chess literature at times as well, e.g. by Tartakower in his <500 Master Games of Chess>.
One curious thing I've seen is that he was listed as being Austrian in some of the 1938 reporting (I think, this is from memory).
|May-23-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Well the fact that the list of confiscated properties doesn't give a first name or even a first initial combined with the fact that Cukierman/Zuckermann is a common name makes the connection speculative, at best (of the needle in a haystack variety).|
A couple of things that might support your argument are that C. the chessplayer was a foreigner, which would make it easier to deport/intern him, and that fact that he was a medical doctor, because the Aryanization Act was generally supposed to confiscate business premises rather than homes ("unless there are good reasons"), and he might have had a home practice. That would mean the Vichy government could have confiscated his home as a business premises.
|May-23-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <PS> If you really want to speculate, you could imagine that he was in his home medical practice when he heard the cops banging on the door, tried to escape onto the balcony and fell to his death.|
|May-23-18|| ||hemy: In the list of Cukierman's games are missing games from 1931 Paris championship, where he shared 3-4 place with Nicolas Rossolimo|
Here is the tournament table:
The games that Cukierman won against Eugene Aleksandrovich Znosko-Borovsky (1st place, 13.5/16) and Dr. Oscar Blum (2nd place, 13/16) were published in "Le Temps", January 18, 1932, p. 4:
[Event "championnat de Paris 1931"]
[White "Cukierman, Josef"]
[Black "Znosko-Borovsky, Eugene"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nbd7 5. e3 c6 6. cxd5 exd5 7. Bd3 Be7 8. Qc2 h6 9. Bh4 O-O 10. Nf3 Re8 11. Bg3 Nh5 12. Be5 Bf6 13. Bxf6 Nhxf6 14. h3 Qe7 15. O-O Ne4 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Nd2 Nf6 18. a3 b6 19. Qa4 Bb7 20. b4 Qe6 21. Rfc1 g5 22. Qb3 Qf5 23. Nc4 Re6 24. Ne2 Nd5 25. Ne5 f6 26. Ng3 Qh7 27. Nxc6 Qd7 28. b5 a5 29. Qd1 Rf8 30. Nf5 Qh7 31. g4 Rfe8 32. Qb3 Qd7 33. Nxh6+ Kh7 34. Nf5 Bxc6 35. bxc6 Rxc6 36. Kg2 Rec8 37. Rh1 Qe6 38. Qb5 Nc3 39. Qf1 Kg8 40. h4 Nd5 41. hxg5 Ne7 42. d5 Nxd5 43. g6 Ne7 44. Rh8+ Kxh8 45. Qh1+ Kg8 46. Qh7+ Kf8 47.
Eugene Znosko-Borovsky is well presented in CG, but mystifying Dr. Oscar Blum is missing. Oscar Blum was the winner of 1932 Paris championship:
In December 2016 I submitted to CG some of his games, but they were not published.
The game against Cukierman was among them.
[Event "championnat de Paris 1931"]
[White "Cukierman, Josef"]
[Black "Blum, Oscar"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. g3 c5 3. d5 b5 4. Bg2 d6 5. e4 g6 6. Ne2 Bg7 7. O-O O-O 8. h3 Nbd7 9. f4 Rb8 10. Nd2 a5 11. Rb1 Qc7 12. g4 Ba6 13. c3 h5 14. Bf3 hxg4 15. hxg4 Kh7 16. Kg2 Rh8 17. g5 Ne8 18. Rh1+ Kg8 19. Bg4 c4 20. Rxh8+ Bxh8 21. f5 Ne5 22. Nf4 Bc8 23. Nf1 Bd7 24. Ne3 Qc8 25. Bd2 Ng7 26. Qh1 gxf5 27. Qh6 fxg4 28. Rh1 f5 29. g6 Nxg6 30. Nxg6 Qc7 31. Qh7+ Kf7 32. Nxh8+ Rxh8 33. Qxh8 f4 34. Rh7 1-0
I collected big amount of articles related to biography of Dr. Oscar Blum (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osc...), but without publishing his game I can not share them on CG.
|May-23-18|| ||MissScarlett: <Eugene Znosko-Borovsky is well presented in CG, but mystifying Dr. Oscar Blum is missing.>|
Not really. During the 20th century, France and Italy lagged behind the other major European nations in their interest in the game. Blum's failure to play international events destined him to obscurity. I confess I've never heard of him.
<In December 2016 I submitted to CG some of his games, but they were not published.>
Then try and try again. Become a nuisance when they don't appear. Posting them here serves no purpose.
|May-23-18|| ||hemy: <MissScarlett>< I confess I've never heard of him.>
Biography of chess master Dr. Oscar Blum is a mystery that probably never will be solved.|
2 different ( or not?) persons, Dr. Oscar Blum chess master and Dr. Oscar Blum member of social democratic party in Russia, an enemy of Vladimir Lenin.
|May-23-18|| ||MissScarlett: Ah yes, now I remember him. The ECF page is familiar. |
The <Daily Record> of October 3rd 1933, p.7, has similar details to the <Belfast-News Letter> in its report of Blum's trial, but it additionally gives his age as 45 and that he's an author and doctor of philosophy.
The Menshevik-Blum is said to have been born in 1886, so there's a discrepancy of a couple of years or so.
The Wikipedia article claims Blum is of Lithuanian-descent. Where does that come from? I see only a Latvian connection between our tenuous twins.
|May-23-18|| ||hemy: <MissScarlett> Oscar Blum was presented as a Lithuanian citizen by the organizers of Paris championship.|
The most recent evidence of the fate of Blum social democrat was in the article "In Vienna arrested Bolshevik journalist" published in the Latvian newspaper in Russian language "Сегодня" ("Tuday"), 21 January 1930, p.5.
"In Vienna arrested Bolshevik journalist.
According to the "Neues Wiener Journal", in one of Vienna's hotels,
recently arrested Dr. Oskar Blum, who calls himself a Russian writer
and declared that he was born in St. Petersburg, and that he was 42 years.
Blum owed Hotel 300 shilling and fled, taking some of their things.
The porter of the hotel discovered the disappearance of Blum, went to Vienna train stations and really on one of them caught Blum at the moment when he boarded the train. Porter brought Blum back to the hotel, where he was arrested.
According to the Vienna newspaper, Blum contributed to the Bolshevik publications."
The same pattern of behavior was characteristic for the Dr. Oscar Blum chess player.
(The articles in "Daily Record", October 3rd 1933, p.7, "Belfast-News Letter" and in Folkestone, Hythe, Sandgate & Cheriton Herald, October 7, 1933, p8 and "Western Daily Press, 3 October 1933, p11).
|May-24-18|| ||MissScarlett: Hmmm, I was sceptical, but it's looking increasingly likely they are one and the same.|
Both allegedly born in St. Petersburg, both reportedly with a connection to Latvia, and the ages of 42 and 45 tie in neatly.
<Western Daily Press, 3 October 1933, p11>
Which includes the pertinent information that Blum had been ordered to leave France by April of that year, according to the Scotland Yard officer at his trial.
Which suggests that Blum's main motivation for entering the Folkestone tournament was to avoid being deported back to the Soviet Union or Latvia or Lithuania or wherever. Was he intending to stay in Britain permanently? And where did he end up? Spain?
|May-24-18|| ||hemy: <MissScarlett> Your observation looking me consistently with my understanding of this matter.|
The historical research about Dr. Oscar Blum social-democrat (https://ru-history.livejournal.com/...) mentioned differences in publications about his bio, including different date of birth.
In 1923 he was deported from Russia.
In January 1923 he was already in Berlin.
In 1923 he published a book «Russische Köpfe», with not pleasant characteristics of a number of figures of the Russian revolution.
In 1927 he was living in Berlin, but since then nothing is known about him.
In 1925 Dr. Oscar Blum, chess player, was touring Northern Italy, populated with German speaking population.
He was making simultaneous displays and lectures in small towns. ("Meraner Zeitung", February 5, 1925, p. 5, "Meraner Zeitung", February 10, 1925, p. 4, "Der Tiroler", February 6, 1925, "Der Tiroler", February 25, 1925).
In 1936 Blum made a tour in Portugal and Spain, playing simultaneous displays in Lisbon, Cadiz, Seville and Madrid.
"Que fue campeón de París en 1932 y que, aparte, dio simultáneas en Lisboa -una de ellas la hemos visto más arriba-, Sevilla, Cádiz y Madrid, con un gran resultado, probando que Blum era un jugador con una notable categoría."
He participated in "Madrid FC-1936" International tournament, wher he was 2nd, after Koltanowski.
For someone, who is interested to see the articles I mentioned, i placed them in dropbox.
|May-24-18|| ||zanzibar: Perhaps the Blum discussion should be moved over to Blum ?|
|May-27-18|| ||MissScarlett: To reflect the uncertainty over the date of Cukierman's death, I've removed the <1941> from his bio. I won't remove it from the DOD field, but, in such doubtful cases, it would be helpful to be able to append a <?>.|
|May-27-18|| ||zanzibar: <MissS> much more likely he died from 1940.|
As you pointed out, Alekhine's 1941 interview merely reports him as a suicide, and doesn't really assert a dod.
The <Combat> reportage by S. Kesten is the best/most reliable I've seen, and it definitely gives 1940.
|May-27-18|| ||MissScarlett: Given the level of detail in the <Combat> notice, you're probably correct. But the matter will only, one hopes, be settled by one of <cg.com>'s intrepid Parisian members prising themself off the lazyboy recliner and travelling to the <Cimetičre parisien de Bagneux> (http://equipement.paris.fr/cimetier...).|
<Combat> helpfully mentioned that he was being reinterred in division 102. This map shows the layout of the cemetery and who else is in that section but Ossip Bernstein :
|May-28-18|| ||TheFocus: <MissScarlett> <But the matter will only, one hopes, be settled by one of <cg.com>'s intrepid Parisian members prising themself off the lazyboy recliner>|
Tell them the Huns are coming. That'll get them off and running.
|May-28-18|| ||Tabanus: The 1920 game of Tsukerman could be by him.|
|May-28-18|| ||mifralu: < Tabanus: The 1920 game of Tsukerman could be by him.>|
Yes, Cukierman (Tsukerman) scored 8,5/12 in Moscow Championship.
|May-28-18|| ||hemy: Tournament of 2 category - Moscow 1916: 1 place - Tsukerman (Cukierman, Цукерман) 9/10|
Match Ilyin-Zhenevsky - Tsukerman, Moscow 1920: 4.5 - 4.5 (+3, -3, =3)
Russian language Wikipedia article of Цукерман, Иосиф (Józef Cukierman, Josef Zukermann):
|May-28-18|| ||hemy: < Tabanus: The 1920 game of Tsukerman could be by him.> Sure it is.|
Иосиф Цукерман = Josef Tsukerman = Józef Cukierman = Josef Zukermann
|May-28-18|| ||hemy: The game Cukierman - Lazard from Paris ch., 1933 published in "Algemeen Handelsblad", October 29, 1933:
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