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Edmund Thorold
  
Number of games in database: 49
Years covered: 1860 to 1895
Overall record: +16 -31 =2 (34.7%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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EDMUND THOROLD
(born Sep-08-1832, died Jun-19-1899, 66 years old) United Kingdom

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He won the Manchester 1882 tournament (http://www.thechesslibrary.com/file...), sharing 1st place with Bernard William Fisher. By profession a schoolmaster, he was a strong amateur player prominent in English provincial chess (Yorkshire and SW England) in the second half of the nineteenth century.

He merited a lengthy obituary in the British Chess Magazine of August 1899 along with a photograph: "The death of Mr. Edmund Thorold was briefly announced in our last issue, chess has suffered a severe loss by the death of Mr. Edmund Thorold, who died very suddenly at his residence, New King Street, Bath, on Monday, June 26th. Edmund Thorold was born at Barnby Moor, Notes, in 1843, of a well-known Lincolnshire family. He was entered at the Collegiate School, Sheffield, and it was during his school days that he became interested in chess. From Sheffield he went to Worcester College, Oxford, to continue his studies. When Mr. Thorold first saw Oxford, the Inter-Universities' matches had not started, nevertheless he found at Oxford some good chess players. Mr. Ranken left just before Mr. Thorold entered, but he had left a chess influence and some enthusiastic players.

Mr. Thorold's attention, however, was fully taken up with his studies; he had therefore little time to devote to chess, still he found time for an occasional game, the late Mr. Wormald and Mr. Green being amongst his opponents. During the vacations he visited London, and embraced the opportunity of playing with the Masters. One of his opponents was the late Mr. S. S. Boden, and from this talented exponent of the game he derived much knowledge of scientific play. On the completion of his University studies (being at one time Fellow of Magdalen College), Mr. Thorold returned to Sheffield, and was for some time Master of the Collegiate School. He soon identified himself with local chess; was elected president of the Sheffield Chess Club, and also took a very prominent part in various annual meetings of the West Yorkshire Chess Association.

He removed from Sheffield to Bath about thirty years ago, and since then his name is found closely identified with every effort to advance the interests of chess in the West of England. He was for some time president of the Bristol Chess Club, succeeding the late Capt. Kennedy. Mr. Thorold was a frequent competitor in the various tournaments of the Counties' Chess Association. In 1885 he took part in the Hereford Tournament, but not with signal success, though he defeated Emil Schallopp he never did seem to do himself justice in tournament play, though he often defeated strong opponents. In 1888 he was a competitor in the International Master Tournament, at Bradford, and defeated Isidor Gunsberg (winner of the first prize), his final score, however, was only 6.5 out of a possible 16.

In 1890 he was one of the competitors in the International Master tournament of the Manchester Congress, and he won some fine games, including one from Joseph Henry Blackburne. Mr. Thorold played several important matches, defeating such players as Mr. Feddon, of Bristol; Mr. Fisher, of Cheltenham; and Mr. Joseph Henry Blackburne, of the St. George's Chess Club, London. In 1861 he played a match with Mr. John Watkinson, of Huddersfield, which was won by the latter by 7 to 4. In 1884 he played a match with the late Rev. V. Wayte. The final score was Wayte 7, Thorold 5, drawn 4.

The name of Edmund Thorold will always be linked with those of Allgaier and Kieseritzki, in connection with that form of the King's Gambit which is known as the Thorold-Allgaier-Kieseritzki. Had Mr. Thorold done no more for chess than given to its literature the result of his analytical research in the King's Gambit variations, his name would live long in chess annals. But Mr. Thorold rendered other important services to English chess. He was one of a band of enthusiastic amateur players who have laboured unceasingly to raise the standard of English provincial play to the level of the best Metropolitan play and the efforts put forth have not been altogether unsuccessful.

Mr. Thorold was peculiarly a provincial player of the first rank, as Blake, John Owen, Ranken, Skipworth, and Watkinson; but whilst the names of Messrs. Blake, Ranken, and Skipworth are honourably connected with provincial chess, yet they also have a connection - more or less close - with the Metropolis. In Mr. Thorold's case this was not so. Unfortunately Mr. Thorold kept no regular record of the score or results of his games, yet meagre as the account is it is sufficient to show that he was for years amongst the very foremost of English amateur chess players. He has passed away very soon after his old friends the Rev. W. Whyte and the Rev. A. B. Skipworth, and by his death another link is snapped between us and the band of players whose services to chess will cause the Victorian Age to be renowned in chess history. Mr. Thorold was for some years a Master at the Somersetshire College. Bath, and was engaged more or less in tuition till the time of his death." (1)

"The death is announced of Mr. Edmund Thorold, of Bath, the age of sixty-six. Of late Mr. Thorold having withdrawn from serious public cbees, bis name-will be remembered by the younger generation the inventor of the lively variation known in the theory of the game as the Augaier-Thorold Gambit. Mr. Thorold was busily engaged with scholastic work, and could not cultivate the game otherwise than as a recreation; but, in spite of the limited attention he has been able to bestow upon bis favourite pastime, be was equal in strength to each distinguished amateurs as the late Rev. W. Wayte, the late Rev. A. B. Skipworth, the Rev. C. E. Rankin and the Rev. John Owen, with whom he frequently competed in the meetings of the Counties Chess Association. (2)

"The death of Edmund Thorold removes another name from the band of famous amateurs who a generation ago enriched by their genius alike the theory and the practice of chess. His variation the Allgaier Gambit is one that has steadily risen in popular favour, and stood every test of time, while there can be little doubt that with more leisure for play would have been a formidable opponent to the first-class professional masters. He was a brother of the late Bishop of Winchester and had resided many years at Bath, where he died at the age of sixty-seven. (sic)" (3)

"CHESS. At 5, New Street, Bath, Monday, the death occurred suddenly Mr. Edmund Thorold, the well known amateur chess player. He passed away sitting in his chair. Deceased, who was 66 years old, was cousin of the late Bishop of Rochester. He had lived Bath for nearly 30 years, and was the oldest member of Bath Chess Club, having been member when this club held its meetings in the old Commercial Rooms on an upper floor at the Post Office. He had won the County Championship on more than one occasion, was known the inventor of variations of openings throughout chess circles, and frequently - as late as the season recently ended - gave exhibitions simultaneous play at Bristol and Clifton, as well as Bath." (4)

(1) British Chess Magazine, August 1899, pp. 336-337.
(2) Barnsley Chronicle, Saturday 15th July 1899, p. 2.
(3) Illustrated London News, Saturday 8th July 1899, p. 27.
(4) Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser, Saturday 24th June 1899, p. 8.

http://www.edochess.ca/players/p217....

Last updated: 2017-08-26 08:53:19

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 49  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. E Thorold vs F Deacon 0-1361860Kolisch vs. MaudeC40 King's Knight Opening
2. E Thorold vs J Watkinson 1-0531861MatchC51 Evans Gambit
3. E Thorold vs J Watkinson 0-1411861Huddersfield m/11C30 King's Gambit Declined
4. J Watkinson vs E Thorold  1-0331861MatchC51 Evans Gambit
5. Steinitz vs E Thorold 1-0241864London 5C39 King's Gambit Accepted
6. E Thorold vs Green 1-0381865London, ENGC44 King's Pawn Game
7. E Thorold vs W Wayte 0-1281866LondonC34 King's Gambit Accepted
8. E Thorold vs W J Wilson 0-1381866Counties Chess AssociationC38 King's Gambit Accepted
9. E Thorold vs G MacDonnell 0-1391866London (5)C29 Vienna Gambit
10. E Thorold vs G MacDonnell  0-1381866London-2 m/10C30 King's Gambit Declined
11. De Vere vs E Thorold 0-1321866Counties Chess AssociationC41 Philidor Defense
12. E Thorold vs Owen  0-1491866Counties Chess AssociationC88 Ruy Lopez
13. E Thorold vs G MacDonnell  0-1201870UnknownC39 King's Gambit Accepted
14. E Thorold vs G MacDonnell 0-1201870ENGC39 King's Gambit Accepted
15. Blackburne vs E Thorold 1-0271871CardiffC42 Petrov Defense
16. E Thorold vs A Skipworth  1-0251873CliftonA02 Bird's Opening
17. E Thorold vs T H Archdall 0-14518734th C.C.A. CongressC13 French
18. E Thorold vs C E Ranken  1-0511874corr ttA02 Bird's Opening
19. C E Ranken vs E Thorold  1-0321874corr ttC33 King's Gambit Accepted
20. A Crosskill vs E Thorold  0-1401875BeverleyC51 Evans Gambit
21. E Thorold vs W Wayte  1-0231878Counties Chess AssocA02 Bird's Opening
22. E Thorold vs NN  1-0401881SimulC51 Evans Gambit
23. E Thorold vs NN 1-0201882YorkshireC51 Evans Gambit
24. E Thorold vs Gunsberg  0-1261883?C39 King's Gambit Accepted
25. W Wayte vs E Thorold 1-0441884BathC10 French
 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 49  PGN Download
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Kibitzer's Corner
Aug-28-08  myschkin: . . .

<Edmund Thorold> (1832-1899)

York 1868 1st - 8.5/9.
London 1878 1st - 11.5/12.
Manchester 1882 1/2nd - 6/9.
Birmingham 1883 1st - 5/7

http://www.newinchess.com/Thorold__...

Mar-05-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: Here is a Thorold victory that I have just uploaded to the database:

[Event "simul"]
[Site "Hull, England"]
[Date "1881.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Edmund Thorold"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. ♘f3 ♘c6 3. ♗c4 ♗c5 4. b4 ♗xb4 5. c3 ♗c5 6. O-O d6 7. d4 exd4 8. cxd4 ♗b6 9. d5 ♘a5 10. ♗b2 ♘e7 11. ♗d3 O-O 12. ♘c3 ♘g6 13. ♘e2 f6 14. ♘g3 ♘f4 15. ♖c1 c5 16. ♗b1 ♗g4 17. h3 ♗d7 18. ♕d2 ♘g6 19. ♘f5 ♗xf5 20. exf5 ♘e5 21. ♗xe5 dxe5 22. ♗e4 ♕d6 23. g4 ♗d8 24. h4 a6 25. ♔g2 b5 26. g5 ♘c4 27. ♕d3 ♖a7 28. ♖g1 ♖d7 29. ♔h1 ♔h8 30. ♖g3 ♘b6 31. ♖cg1 ♘xd5 32. ♖d1 fxg5 33. hxg5 ♗xg5 34. ♘xg5 ♕h6+ 35. ♔g1 ♘f6


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36. ♕xd7 ♘xd7 37. ♖xd7 ♕f6 38. ♘xh7 ♔xh7 39. ♖h3+ ♔g8 40. ♗d5+ 1-0

Source: The Hull Packet and East Riding Times (Hull, England), Thursday, April 14, 1881

Sep-16-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karpova: A Miss Thorold won a Women's Tournament at Stamford, England in 1887 and received a prize - a silver cup - from Reverend Arthur Skipworth. Due to the 'Miss' I assume that she might be Edmund's daughter.

From page 18 of the November 1887 'Wiener Schachzeitung'

Oct-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karpova: <On Wednesday evening, Jan. 18th, E. Thorold, Esq. paid one of his visits to the Hull Church Institute Chess Club and played simultaneous games with some of the players. There was a large attendance, but only 11 of the strongest players contested. Messrs. Trumble and Pulsford won their games; Messrs. Crake, Philip, Thompson, North, and Peck lost. On account of the late hour four games were left unfinished. Those by Messrs. Farrow, Sergeant, and Little were in favour of Mr. Thorold, that of Mr. Bean against that gentleman.>

From p. 61 of the February 1882 'British Chess Magazine'

Apr-26-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: BCM obit:

<The name of Edmund Thorold will always be linked with those of Allgaier and Kieseritzki, in connection with that form of the King's Gambit which is known as the Thorold-Allgaier-Kieseritzki. Had Mr. Thorold done no more for chess than given to its literature the result of his analytical research in the Kind's Gambit variations, his name would live long in chess annals. But Mr. Thorold rendered other important services to English chess. He was one of a band of enthusiastic amateur players who have laboured unceasingly to raise the standard of English provincial play to the level of the best Metopolitan play, and the efforts put forth have not been altogether unsuccessful. Mr. Thorold was peculiarly a provincial player of the first rank, as Blake, Owen, Ranken, Skipworth, and Watkinson; but whilst the names of Messrs. Blake, Ranken, and Skipworth are honourably connected with provincial chess, yet they also have a connectionŚmore or less closeŚwith the Metropolis In Mr. Thorold's case this was not so. Unfortunately Mr. Thorold kept no regular record of the score or results of his games, yet mea╗re as the account is it is sufficient to show that he was for years amongst the very foremost of English amateur chess players. He has passed away very soon after his old friends the Rev. W. Wayte and the Rev. A. B. Skipworth, and by his death another link is snapped between us and the band of players whose services to chess will cause the Victorian Age to be renowned in chess history.>

https://books.google.com/books?id=R...

<BCM v19 (Oct 1899) p341>

Jun-12-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: "Edmund Thorold was born at Barnby Moor, Notes, in 1843".

Does it really say this, or it it 1833? Anyway, I find only one option, the one that the family trees have b. 8 Sep 1932.

Jun-12-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: BCM 1899 p. 379:

<We stated in our obituaty notice last month that the late Mr. Thorold was born in the year 1843. Miss Thorold, who kindly supplied us with this information, now writes saying that she made a mistake, and that her brother was born in the year 1832.>

Problem solved, thanks. NB: BCM is also one week late about his death.

Jun-12-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <Karpova: A Miss Thorold won a Women's Tournament at Stamford, England in 1887 and received a prize> That's Eliza Mary Thorold (1835-1904), Edmund's sister. I'll try to find games by her later. Some of her games may be here among Edmund's.
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