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| azaris: <square dance> Did I say anything about the Bush administration? My point was that the general belief that all Muslim countries are horribly oppressive places that the West must work to liberate is about as correct as the belief that all Western countries are horribly depraved places that Islam must work to enlighten. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: Chess is alive and kicking in Iran. I remember Anand playing a match of six games (against Shirov I think it was) a couple of years back in Isfahan and it was televised in India.
Iranian women chess players regularly play tournaments in India. |
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Oct-04-04
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| acirce: Of course, there was also the FIDE WC 2000 where the finals were held in Teheran. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: Was it the Anand Vs Shirov I am referring to? |
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Oct-04-04
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| acirce: Well, it was Anand-Shirov, so probably. They might have played another match in Iran for all I know but.. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: I am mistaken. It was Teheran then and not Isfahan. Thanks |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <azaris> well islam as a religion is oppresive to women. therefore any country that bases their laws on the religion of islam IS oppresive. unless women dont count in your view. also considering the talk about western propaganda towards islam i think you were, at least in part, refering to the bush administration. even if this was not your direct intent it can easily be taken that way. |
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| Oct-04-04 |
| azaris: <square dance> I was amused that the first mention of "Western propaganda" made you think of the Bush administration. I certainly didn't mean it that way, rather that both the West and East have misconceptions about each other that shouldn't be allowed to prosper. Concerning Islam's attitude towards women, yes, some of it can be construed as oppressive at least by western standards. But let's not forget our own double-standards. For example, why are men allowed to walk topless in public in the US while women get arrested for "public indecency"? Is the requirement for women to cover their heads any different from our requirement for women to cover their breasts? |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: <well islam as a religion is oppresive to women.>
Will you bother to substantiate the claim please? |
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Oct-04-04
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| acirce: One thing that differentiates Islam from some other religions is that it is harder to separate it from politics and society in general. Other than that, Islam "in itself" doesn't necessarily have much to do with various manifestations of it in forms of for example ultra-reactionary Islamist movements. Not more than Christianity in itself equates crusades and the Inquisition. |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <azaris> as for your first paragraph, fair enough. for you second: the point you make is clever in and of itself, but looking at the larger picture i think we both know that the comparison wont stand up. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: you are right. It won't. |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <arifattar> no im not going to dig out the facts just to tell you what you already know. heck, what ive been told is all probably western propaganda anyway. acirce makes a good point about islam spilling over into politics and society and that is where some of the "problems" arise. |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <arifattar> ok, why wont it? |
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| Oct-04-04 |
| azaris: <square dance> Looking at the US, Christianity spills over to politics as well and I doubt it's all without problems. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: <islam spilling over into politics and society and that is where some of the "problems" arise.> Islam hasn't spilled over into politics and society. The latter are constituent parts of the former and thus can never be separated. |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <azaris> you are exactly right. |
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Oct-04-04
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| square dance: <arifattar> then maybe that is the problem. the seperation of church and state is probably one of the better ideas in recent history. at least from my point of view i can appreciate it. |
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Oct-04-04
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| arifattar: I would like to believe that this very separation which exists right from Indonesia to Morocco is in fact at the heart of all that ails the Islamic world.
Any attempts at reconciling, like the ones in Algeria and Afghanistan, have been brutally suppressed. |
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| Jan-04-05 |
| Orbitkind: Am I right that Maghami along with Naiditsch were both disqualified from an internet tournament for cheating? [I.e. using a computer] |
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| Apr-24-05 |
| Hesam7: <orbitkind> You are right. |
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| Feb-12-06 |
| jcgnal: i think maghami is awsome , but he shouldnt play for iran , he should move to some better countries where they can give him more |
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| Aug-10-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Ehsan Ghaem Maghami GHAEM, Ehsan
http://www.bidmonfa.com/ghaem_ehsan...
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Mar-11-08
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| Karpova: Congratulations on winning the <Sixteenth International Fajr Men's Chess Tournament> wizh 9.5/11. He received a prize of US $3,500.
Armenian IM Avetik Grigoryan came in second with 9.0/11. Kasparov came in 11th with 8.0/11. The women event saw four players with 7.0/9: WIM Nino Batsiashvili, WIM Sopiko Tereladze, WIM Lilit Galojan and WIM Siranush Andriasian. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Mar-30-08
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| Karpova: He became Iranian Chess Champion in 2008 with 12.0/13!
The Championship took place from 14th to 27th March 2008 and the time control was 90 min + 30 seconds per move.
There was no prize fund and so he was the only GM participating (there were also 1 IM and 4 FMs). http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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