| Oct-03-04 | | Zaius: "Lose with grace and resign in a timely manner. If you are a lot of material down and don't have sufficient compensation, it is time to lay down your arms. This way you show your respect for both chess and your opponent." How is playing a game through showing any less respect? I think when you resign, whether it be when you have reached your own limit at which you think you cannot come back, or whether it be at a checkmate is dependent entirely on your style and attitude and not on some overarching rule of what is gracious and what is not. |
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| Oct-03-04 | | HailM0rphy: <you cannot come back> Exactly. You've lost..plain and simple..I don't know if you'd wanna play a game if you knew you'd loose everytime..It's like fighting a war of 500 against 50000..your there, but all your doing using up my time, yours, and the guy who wants to play next.. |
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| Oct-03-04 | | Zaius: Who said anything about losing everytime? I'm talking about a specific game here. If I value my time being spent on a game that is theoretically lost (but that I might come back from and draw through an opponent blunder, however unlikely) as being superior to some sense of temporal efficiency for either you or I, then why shouldn't I go ahead and play it? |
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| Oct-03-04 | | unclewalter: wars have been won 500 to 50000 (e.g. gideon)...and i respect chess because i've lost "won games" and won lost games...it takes, and i think should take, skill, not just respect, to finish someone off. so zaius, i agree that this quote is silly. |
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| Oct-03-04 | | Mulfish: Well, I'd guess she's talking about somewhat higher level chess here, too. At the GM level two or three pawns or a piece vs pawn, absent compensation, is sufficient to warrant resignation. At the amateur level anything can happen, so you play on a little longer. In quick chess, never resign. I've won and lost rook-deficit positions often. |
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| Oct-06-04 | | HailM0rphy: Your right Mul, my bad. Anybody that would be against resignation is still a patzer whos been taught never to resign which I agree with and did too when I was at her level. She'll learn on her own sooner or later like all did..if she even advances to another level at all ;) |
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| Mar-13-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: A charming lady! Here's a picture of her taken during the Women's World Chess Championships: http://www.womenchess.com/images/ga... |
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| Mar-15-06 | | BIDMONFA: Svetlana Matveeva MATVEEVA, Svetlana
http://www.bidmonfa.com/matveeva_sv...
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| Mar-20-06 | | twinlark: <chessgames> According to the FIDE ratings history on Matveeva's card, her peak rating was 2502. Link is http://www.fide.com/ratings/id.phtm... |
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| Mar-15-07 | | stanleys: Well Matveeva was very talented,but I don't think she was capable to draw against Gaprindashvili at only 5 years of age! But something is not mentionned here - she became the youngest USSR champion of all times - think she was 15 when she won the title |
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Apr-10-07
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| Sep-06-07 | | jackmandoo: <Moondoll.> Chess isn't about fun for some. For the competetive and serious player it's about truth. Logic. If you are several peices down and without compensaton a loss is inevitable. It is therefore, time to resign. |
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| Jul-04-08 | | brankat: Happy Birthday Svetlana! |
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| Aug-16-08 | | whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" Lose with grace and resign in a timely manner. If you are a lot of material down and don't have sufficient compensation, it is time to lay down your arms. This way you show your respect for both chess and your opponent. " -- Svetlana Matveeva |
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| Aug-16-08 | | GeauxCool: How is playing a game through showing any less respect? I think when you resign, whether it be when you have reached your own limit at which you think you cannot come back, or whether it be at a checkmate is dependent entirely on your style and attitude and not on some overarching rule of what is gracious and what is not. If I value my time being spent on a game that is theoretically lost (but that I might come back from and draw through an opponent blunder, however unlikely) as being superior to some sense of temporal efficiency for either you or I, then why shouldn't I go ahead and play it? I'd guess she's talking about somewhat higher level chess here. At the GM level two or three pawns or a piece vs pawn, absent compensation, is sufficient to warrant resignation. At the amateur level anything can happen, so you play on a little longer. In quick chess, never resign. I've won and lost rook-deficit positions often. I think resignation is completely dependant on each game and each opponent. I've played games and resigned down a minor piece early and I've played games down several pieces and come back to win. I think each player should know their own limitations and know when, barring several obvious blunders, there is no way to win a game and that it is time to "lay down your arms". Sometimes it is more fun to let your opponent play out the win, sometimes it's not worth either players time. Anybody that would be against resignation is still a patzer. Chess isn't about fun for some. For the competetive and serious player it's about truth. Logic. If you are several peices down and without compensaton a loss is inevitable. It is therefore, time to resign. |
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| Sep-03-08 | | Abdooss: Matveeva was born in 1969, and her games started in 1973. She started to play competitively when she was 4 years old? (against Women World Champion Nona Gaprandashvilli when she was 5 ????) |
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| Jul-27-09 | | popski: <Abdooss> That's interesting indeed! And she draw with Women World Champion Nona Gaprandashvilli when she was 5!?! WoW!! |
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| Jul-27-09 | | percyblakeney: The first games were played by some other Matveeva, since Svetlana hardly participated on the highest level in the Russian Championship when she was four and five years old, to then take a more than dozen year long break from chess... |
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Mar-17-11
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< "Lose with grace and resign in a timely manner. If you are a lot of material down and don't have sufficient compensation, it is time to lay down your arms. This way you show your respect for both chess and your opponent." > |
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| Jan-11-12 | | Rook e2: I don't agree with the quote. I don't have to resign to show respect to my opponent. Always try to counter with one last all out attack. Especially under time pressure some opponents lose their nerves. |
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Jan-11-12
| | Penguincw: Quote of the Day
< "Lose with grace and resign in a timely manner. If you are a lot of material down and don't have sufficient compensation, it is time to lay down your arms. This way you show your respect for both chess and your opponent." > Hmm. Same as Mar 17th. :-\ |
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| Dec-30-12 | | Duque Roquero: Excellent quote! I don't understand people who like to be killed like a rat in a kitchen instead of resigning just when the situation have turned hopeless. <Rook e2> Read carefully. It says: without sufficient compensation. Obviously time trouble is one kind of compensation. |
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Oct-09-13
| | Penguincw: ♔ Quote of the Day ♔
< "Lose with grace and resign in a timely manner. If you are a lot of material down and don't have sufficient compensation, it is time to lay down your arms. This way you show your respect for both chess and your opponent." > -Svetlana Matveeva |
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| Oct-09-13 | | John Abraham: Looks like they are recycling quotes. |
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Oct-09-13
| | Penguincw: < John Abraham: Looks like they are recycling quotes. > Yep. This one will probably be repeated again sometime in the middle of 2014 based on previous dates. |
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