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Nov-09-11 | | brankat: R.I.P. Misha. |
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Nov-09-11 | | TheRavenPK: 75 years ago in Riga, Mikhail Nekhemievich Tal was born. He was a player, who changed millions people's approach to the game, it was not a science, nor a game, but an art. In 1960 Misha Tal became the 7th world champion, youngest at the time, the most interesting for ever. "If you wait for luck to turn up, the life becomes very boring." I am trying not only play chess, but also live my life according to this quote. Thank you Misha. |
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Nov-09-11 | | Gryz: Tal should be player-of-the-day every day of the year. :-) I learned the chess rules when I was 8 years old. But I started playing when I was 23 years old. I bought 2 Dutch chess books, one by Euwe. All the examples were pretty methodical and trying to follow fixed rules and strategies. I loved the game. Then I ran into the first game of Tal-Botwinnik 1960. Fire on the board ! Then I found a thin book: "Schachtraining mit Exweltmeister Tal" by Koblenz and Tal. 20 Attacking games by Tal, with explanations by Koblenz. I loved it ! Since then Tal has been my favorite player. By a large margin. I don't know if chess will still be played in 100 years. But if it is, then people will still be looking at Tal's games. |
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Nov-09-11 | | Gambit86: "You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one." -Tal |
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Nov-09-11 | | karnak64: Champ, I hope you're still sacrificing rooks and queens somewhere out there. Thanks for inspiring us all. |
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Nov-09-11 | | drnooo: Someone once said about Errol Flynn: "His jaw was stronger, his sword was swifter, the greatest swashbuckler of them all was
Errol Flynn"
it doesn't take much imagination to transfer that almost intact to the guy in the photo above, even down to his movie star good looks |
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Nov-09-11 | | drnooo: the movies had Flynn, golf Balesteros, and chess Tal. All swashbucklers, none of them ever getting close to 60 and all absolutely inimitable. |
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Nov-14-11 | | bronkenstein: Taimanov on Tal: <I was lucky to be friend with 2 geniuses - composer Dmitry Dmitrievich Shoshtakovich and chessplayer Mikhail Tal.> PS suggestion for next Misha`s photo on this page - http://russiachess.org/upload/oct-2... . |
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Nov-14-11 | | talisman: <bronkenstein> i'm sorry but that photo looks like a MAD genius. :) |
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Nov-14-11 | | bronkenstein: Not just mad, but even somewhat diabolic . The current one is too fancy for my taste. |
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Nov-16-11 | | talriga25: I love you Tal. an inspiration from heaven for chess...i hate you botvinnik..you rematcher..dictator of chess after aljehin. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | kingscrusher: <talriga25> Yes Botvinnik and Kotov have a lot to answer for with their attempted damage to chess creativity, fun and beauty. Kotov wanted to treat chess as a cold clinical calculating game or rather gave that impression with the incorrectly titled "Think like a Grandmaster" - which would have been better titled "Think like a computer without an evaluation function". Botvinnik's play seems to represent a hard working discipline of trying to beat certain opponents by studying their game for weaknesses and being a total pain to them psychologically. His play is like "The Thing" in chess form. "The Thing" being an alien creature who took the form of what it destroyed. Alekhine, Tal, Spassky, Kasparov - true creative world champions, elevating the game, and providing examples of dynamism and creativity through their play. A true inspiration to future generations. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | keypusher: <kingscrusher: <talriga25> Yes Botvinnik and Kotov have a lot to answer for with their attempted damage to chess creativity, fun and beauty. > Ridiculous. Botvinnik was one of the most creative chess masters of the 20th century. Kotov played many beautiful games. In his famous books he was trying to teach calculation, which is the most important skill for any chess player to have. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | kingscrusher: <keypusher:> Bronstein and Tal were far more creative than Botvinnik. What Botvinnik was very good at was preparation for opponents. Also of course his School of Chess which brought up other great masters. With regard to Kotov, I don't think the books "Think like a GM" is that useful for improving calculation. Most puzzle books are better, along with any understanding of working out forcing lines. I don't think any GM actually thinks in the Tree manner prescrbed which seems t lack the ingredient of evaluation. The "Candidate move" concept is good though. Just my opinions anyway. Feel free to disagree. |
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Nov-16-11 | | AnalyzeThis: Botvinnik was more competitive than he was creative. For example, if Tal had a weakness against the Caro-Kann, he played that. Botvinnik wanted to win the game first and ask questions later. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, by the way. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | keypusher: <kingscrusher> <With regard to Kotov, I don't think the books "Think like a GM" is that useful for improving calculation.> Beside the point. I'm not sure they're that useful either. But your main problem with Kotov seemed to be the notion teaching how to calculate is somehow antithetical to creativity. That's ridiculous IMO. <Bronstein and Tal were far more creative than Botvinnik.> Bronstein was very creative. I don't see Tal as anywhere near the creative force Botvinnik was in refashioning openings and coming up with entire new middlegame strategies. I don't think either Bronstein nor Tal did the sort of creative prep work Botvinnik did, on the scale he did it. <What Botvinnik was very good at was preparation for opponents.> Like all great masters, he was very good at everything. What he truly excelled at was preparation, period. Saying he excelled at preparation for opponents is trying to make the Smyslov and Tal rematches a stand-in for Botvinnik's entire career. Which is wrong. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | kingscrusher: <keypusher> All good points. When I get to Botvinnik in Evolution of Style series, I will try and revisit this thread. My original post was a little in jest just to generate some reaction actually. Thanks for the informed feedback. |
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Nov-16-11 | | AnalyzeThis: Tal was creative in the middlegame, not necessarily in the opening. The move f4 in the game below captures the flavor of Tal: Tal vs Botvinnik, 1960 |
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Nov-23-11
 | | kingscrusher: Another Tal session last night on the Chessbase server: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMDg... |
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Nov-26-11
 | | harrylime: That is a beautiful picture of Tal !
It's surprised me and I've a tear trickling very slowly and coldly down my right cheek.. I miss him very much. |
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Nov-26-11 | | JoergWalter: <harrylime> with a different haircut he has similarity with another guy that is missed very much - George Harrison. or am I mistaken? |
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Nov-30-11
 | | Joshka: <JoergWalter> Yes, somewhat like George, but there is a show here in the states on the history channel, called "Pickers" and this shot of Tal looks almost identical to one of its' co-stars. |
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Nov-30-11 | | Petrosianic: That's "AMERICAN Pickers". It's not very popular, because who wants to see a show about some guy's nose? |
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Nov-30-11 | | JoergWalter: is Chucky the guest star? |
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Nov-30-11 | | talriga25: I did not talk about Botvinnik' s talent or creativity. I only say his vision on world championship is not a world champion's legacy.
Why did he go away afeter 1963 defeat? Because of no rematch?While you have Keres waiting calmly for it, Botvinnik must had known of the true value of the championship.... |
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