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FSR
Member since Aug-27-05 · Last seen Oct-04-25
I am Frederick Rhine. The United States Chess Federation awarded me the titles of National Master (at OTB chess) in 1983, and Senior Master of Correspondence Chess in 1997. In February 2024, less than a year after I began playing in the ICCF, it awarded me the title of Correspondence Chess Master. It looks like later this year I will qualify for the title of International Correspondence Chess Master.

As of September 2025, I am the second highest rated USCF correspondence chess player, just three rating points behind Gordon Magat. https://www.uschess.org/assets/top_...

The August 2020 issue of Chess Life magazine had a profile of me (for the text, see Frederick Rhine (my August 1, 2020 comment in the forum)).

I played in the 1997 USCF Absolute Championship (open to the top 13 correspondence players who accept their invitations), scoring 6-6 (+2 =8 -2). The late Alex Dunne wrote in his book on the Absolute Championships, "This was Rhine's only Absolute and he held his own against the best. His two losses were against previous Absolute winners." http://bit.ly/1NB55YP That book contains my games F Rhine vs R Lifson, 1997 and F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997.

But the 1997 event was not my only Absolute. I have also played in the 2023-25 events. In the 2023 edition, I drew all 12 games. That was enough to tie for second! Unlike the 1997 event, this one was under ICCF auspices and allowed the use of engines. There was only one decisive game! https://www.iccf.com/event?id=101114 In the 2024 Absolute, I have ten draws and a win(!), with just one game left, which will very likely be drawn. https://www.iccf.com/event?id=105325 This time +1 will probably only be enough to tie for fourth. In the 2025 Absolute, I have drawn all twelve games. So far there are no decisive games in the event.

I have played first board for the Rogue Squadron in the Chicago Industrial Chess League. I have played online for the Shropshire & Friends team in the 4 Nations Chess League (4NCL), and the Oswestry team in the Shropshire League.

I attended Lane Technical High School in Chicago with the late Chessgames.com co-founder Alberto A Artidiello until he moved out of Chicago. Lane's chess team won the Illinois state championship my junior and senior years, becoming the first school ever to win consecutive championships. Albert also became a master, as did my teammates Kenneth Mohr and Christopher Kus. The late FIDE Masters Albert Charles Chow and Morris Giles were also Laneites.

In July 2013, I played in my second and third regular-rated tournaments of the millennium(!), the Greater Midwest Classic and the Chicago Class (under-2200 section). I tied for second, undefeated, in both, winning $700 and $550, respectively, and brought my rating back over 2200. http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j... http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j...

I have contributed to hundreds of chess-related articles on Wikipedia under the handle Krakatoa, notably "First-move advantage in chess," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-... "George H. D. Gossip," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George... and "Swindle (chess)," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_..., all of which are almost entirely written by me. The first two of those have been Today's Featured Article, the highest honor a Wikipedia article can receive, one attained by about one out of every 1,400 articles. I have received various Wikipedia awards, including the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels and the Timeless Imperial Triple Crown (which only 12 Wikipedians have received). My user page is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:K.... Al Lawrence in the aforementioned Chess Life article referred to my "erudite chess articles on Wikipedia." Chess historian Edward Winter in his article "Wikipedia and Chess" commended my Wikipedia articles on Gossip and Hugh Edward Myers. (The latter article is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_....) https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

I am the editor and proofreader of the book "Tournament Battle Plan: Optimize Your Chess Results!" by Daniel Gormally. I was the proofreader of the book "Triple Exclam!!! The Life and Games of Emory Tate, Chess Warrior" by Daaim Shabazz.

I was a contributor to the now-defunct Chicago Chess Blog, http://chicagochess.blogspot.com. I discovered, and documented in my blog post https://chicagochess.blogspot.com/2..., what Taylor Kingston calls "the Mortimer Effect," which has lowered the Morphy Numbers of many modern players (maybe you!). https://chesscafe.com/the-skittles-... I have a Morphy Number of 4 by virtue of L Barden vs F Rhine, 2010 as well as two simul games I lost to Arthur Bisguier when I was in high school.

Six hundred and thirty-six of my games are in chessgames.com's database. My favorites are F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981, K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992, and F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996, each of which has been Game of the Day. Rhine-Sprenkle was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 32) and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (2nd ed.) at 183 n.19). In Volume 33 of Chess Informant, my 18th move (18.Nxd6!) in that game was voted the 8th-9th most important theoretical novelty in Volume 32. The game was also cited in MCO-13 and "The Aggressive Nimzowitsch Sicilian 2...Nf6" by Eric Schiller, and occupies an entire chapter in all three editions of "Beating the Sicilian" by John Nunn. It is game 218 in "1000 TN!! The Best Theoretical Novelties" (Chess Informant, 2012). Anish Giri, in his 2023 Chessable course "Lifetime Repertoires: Giri's 1. e4 - Part 3" recommends this line for White. https://www.chessable.com/lifetime-... Following my game against Sprenkle, he writes after 22.Be3, "The computer evaluates this as completely hopeless for Black and it is. Our king is in fact much safer, thanks to our much better pieces." https://www.chessable.com/learn/159... More than 40 years after I played the game, my line still kicks ass!


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Thompson-Rhine was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 57), and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (3rd ed.) at 172 n.163). Jeremy Silman discusses the game and my analysis of it in his book "Winning with the Sicilian Defence" (2nd ed.).

Probably the best game I have ever played is the astonishing F Rhine vs B Lemke, 2025, but it's too deep for me to understand. It was an ICCF game and I was greatly assisted by Stockfish 17.1 (which is legal on ICCF). I doubt that any unaided human could have played that game.

Joel Johnson in his book "Attacking 101: Volume #005" says of my blitz game F Rhine vs NN, 2019, "White played a flawless Smith-Morra Gambit that IM Marc Esserman would have been proud of." Georges Koltanowski published F Rhine vs A Artidiello, 1974 in his syndicated newspaper column. Richard Palliser discusses the opening of F Rhine vs S Nagle, 1997 in his book "tango!"

I have played some theoretically significant correspondence games in the Damiano Variation of Petroff's Defense (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4!?), demonstrating that Black's third move, commonly regarded as a blunder, is fully playable. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... Nikolaos Ntirlis analyzes two of my games in an article on the variation in Volume 158 of Chess Informant. Cyrus Lakdawala and Carsten Hansen include five of my games in their book on the line, "None Shall Pass: The Unbeatable Damiano Petroff: A tricky and surprisingly solid defense."

Jacob Aagaard analyzes the endings of two of my Internet blitz games in his 896-page tome "A Matter of Endgame Technique" (alas, mine was lacking). Cyrus Lakdawala includes my study-like win in F Rhine vs A Zhao, 2019 in his book "Tactical Training in the Endgame." He also mentions me, albeit not by name, in his book "In the Zone: The Greatest Winning Streaks in Chess History" when he refers to "The Classical Sicilian, which as one of my atheist students told me, is the closest thing he has to a religion." Cyrus analyzes my game against Gadir Guseinov in his book "The Makogonov Variation: A ruthless King's Indian killer."

Commentator Mato Jelic somewhat extravagantly calls my game E Sollano vs F Rhine, 1977 "The Greatest Ever Blitz Game Played in Chicago." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl8... See also Suren's analysis at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa... My 7...Bxc5!! in that game, played the year before Boris Avrukh was born, is a big improvement on the flaccid 7...Bg6, his recommendation in the book "Beating 1.d4 Sidelines" (2012).

Someone also made a video (moves only) of J Aagaard vs F Rhine, 2021, a 2-1 bullet game where I drew and should've beaten the grandmaster - if only I'd had time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-O... Someone else (or perhaps two different people) did a video (moves only) of Tal vs F Rhine, 1988, my loss to the great Mikhail Tal in a simul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfk... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3o... The latter refers to me as a "great grandmaster!" which isn't quite accurate . . .

User: JimmyVermeer discusses my games NN vs F Rhine, 2021, P Pantelidakis vs F Rhine, 1974, and P Napetschnig vs F Rhine, 1977 in his video "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 10 of 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GT... The sequel "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 11 of 11," contains a Fool's Mate I played, which I had mentioned in a comment on this site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Z... Napetschnig-Rhine is also mentioned in https://www.chess.com/terms/fools-m.... Rick Kennedy discusses my game F Rhine vs NN, 2018 on his Jerome Gambit blog. https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... My game F Rhine vs NN, 2010 is mentioned in the "Checkmate Patterns Course" by Raf Mesotten and John Bartholomew on chessable.com.

I composed this study, which Pal Benko published in "Benko's Bafflers" in Chess Life, May 2006:

White to play and draw


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The solution is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stale... It is based on an earlier study of mine, also published in Benko's column. Both compositions also appear in Harold van der Heijden's endgame study database. https://www.chess.com/news/view/76-... The above study is also cited in "The Complete Chess Swindler" by David Smerdon and "Rewire Your Chess Brain: Endgame Studies and Mating Problems to Enhance Your Tactical Ability" by Cyrus Lakdawala.

I was once one of the world's best players at suicide chess (also known as "losing chess"), a chess variant where one wins by giving away all of one's pieces. http://perpetualcheck.com/antichess...

I have successfully submitted 240 puns for Game of the Day. Game Collection: Puns I submitted. User: johnlspouge has remarked, "As far as I can tell, <FSR> is churning out 'actual puns' almost as fast as I can [insert bodily function of choice]." K Tjolsen vs S Marder, 2010. The coveted 2013 Caissar for Best (Worst) Pun went to "Control-Ault-Delete," the pun I submitted for Fischer vs R Ault, 1959, the Game of the Day on December 19, 2012. I won the 2019 Caissar in the same category for my greatest pun ever (and IMO one of the greatest chessgames puns ever) "Late December Back in '63: What a Lady, What a Knight!," N Littlewood vs B Brinck-Claussen, 1963, the Game of the Day on December 30, 2019. Since Caissars are awarded in January, my wins may illustrate recency bias.

Nine of my games have been Game of the Day: NN vs F Rhine, 1977 ("Strangers on a Train"), F Rhine vs F Lasch, 1986 ("Lasch Call"), K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992 ("Like a Rhinestone Cowboy"), R Delaune vs F Rhine, 1997 ("Red Red Rhine"), F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997 ("Fred Rhine Felled"), F Felecan vs F Rhine, 2019 ("Felecan Brief"), F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981 ("Sparkling Rhine"), F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996 ("Das Rhinegold"), and F Rhine vs NN, 2018 ("'Twas the Night Before Christmas"). Six wins, a draw, and two losses.

I am responsible for World Junior Championship (1957), Vidmar Memorial (1969), Carlsen - Anand World Championship Match (2014), Game Collection: Drawing lines, and 32nd Correspondence World Championship (2020), among others. Legendary chess journalist Leonard Barden recently told me in an email, "I follow your many thoughtful contributions to chessgames.com with interest."

I am a member of the ChessBookie Hall of Fame, having finished fourth in the Summer 2015 Leg, seventh in the Winter 2016 Championship Leg, ninth in the Winter 2017 Championship Leg, ninth in the Spring 2017 Leg, and seventh in the Summer 2017 Leg.

I am very active on Chessable, where my handle is "Krakatoa." https://www.chessable.com/profile/K... I am a "Legend" and have 134 badges, five shy of the world record held by Maestro. https://www.chessable.com/badges/Ma...

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   Oct-03-25 Chessgames - Politics (replies)
 
FSR: As I said before, the Comey indictment, besides being garbage, may be invalid since Lindsey Halligan does not legally hold office: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KeLF...
 
   Oct-03-25 Hans Fahrni
 
FSR: <perfidious> Thanks. I have added him to the roll.
 
   Oct-03-25 Leopold Trebitsch
 
FSR: Leopold Trebitsch died at the chessic age of 64, like Robert James Fischer, William Steinitz, Howard Staunton, Conel Hugh O'Donel Alexander, Vladimir Savon, Pedro Damiano, Albin Planinc, Vladimir Antoshin, Edmar Mednis, Hans Fahrni, Vitaly Halberstadt, Giulio Cesare Polerio, Karl-Heinz ...
 
   Oct-01-25 FSR chessforum
 
FSR: Submitted: [Event "2nd DSM 0-2750 F (BUL)"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2025.08.10"] [Round "-"] [White "Cronje, Hector Albert"] [Black "Rhine, Frederick"] [ECO "A20"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "2357"] [BlackElo "2349"] [Source " ...
 
   Sep-29-25 Denker vs J Silman, 1975
 
FSR: Silman obviously didn't see 12...Bc4? 13.e5! Simply 12...Nc4 13.Bxc4 Bxc4 would have left him a little better.
 
   Sep-29-25 A Dueckstein vs Geller, 1991
 
FSR: Geller's only loss in the tournament, as IM Dueckstein adds another superstar to his list of victims (including Euwe, Spassky, and Botvinnik). Two rounds later, Smyslov as Black handed Dueckstein his only lost in the event. Smyslov and Geller went on to tie for first in this first World
 
   Sep-29-25 Smyslov vs B Zueger, 1991
 
FSR: I'm surprised that Smyslov couldn't Beat Zueger .
 
   Sep-29-25 Geller vs Najdorf, 1953 (replies)
 
FSR: Geller really effed him up.
 
   Sep-29-25 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
FSR: I received an email from IM William John Donaldson offering over 1200 games of his friend, the celebrated author IM Jeremy Silman , who died two years ago: <Dear Frederick, Attached are over 1200 games of Jeremy Silman for possible inclusion at chessgames.com which currently has 252
 
   Sep-28-25 Chessgames - Sports (replies)
 
FSR: You may know that Tip O'Neill was Speaker of the House from 1977 to 1987. But did you know that in 1887 he hit for the cycle twice, in two games just a week apart? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_... OK, technically Thomas Phillip O'Neill Jr. was nicknamed "Tip" after the Canadian ...
 
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Feb-19-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "Internet blitz"]
[Site "lichess"]
[Date "2019.02.19"]
[White "NN"]
[Black "Frederick Rhine"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B30"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. e5 Nd5 5. Bc4 e6 6. Bxd5 exd5 7. d4 d6 8. O-O dxe5 9. dxe5 Be6 10. Bf4 Be7 11. Re1 g5 12. Bg3 g4 13. Nfd2 h5 14. f3 h4 15. Bf2 g3 16. hxg3 hxg3 17. Bxg3 Bh4 18. Nf1 Bxg3 19. Nxg3 Qh4 20. Ne2 O-O-O 21. Nd2 Rdg8 22. Nf1 Qh1+ 23. Kf2 Rxg2+ 24. Ke3 Qh6+ 25. f4 Nxe5 26. Nfg3 Nc4+ 27. Kf3 Qh3 28. Rh1 Bg4# 0-1

Play it over at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

Feb-23-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "Banter Blitz 175"]
[Site "chess24.com"]
[Date "2019.02.19"]
[EventDate "2019.02.19"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Lawrence Trent"]
[Black "Jan Gustafsson"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2842"]
[BlackElo "3110"]

1.Nc3 Nf6 2.g4 Nxg4 3.e4 d6 4.d4 e5 5.h3 Nf6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bb5 Bd7 8.Rg1 g6 9.Bc4 Bg7 10.dxe5 Nxe5 11.Nxe5 dxe5 12.Qf3 Qe7 13.Bg5 c6 14.O-O-O h6 15.Bh4 Be6 16.Nd5 cxd5 17.exd5 e4 18.Qb3 Bd7 19.d6 Qf8 20.Qxb7 Rc8 21.Bb5 1-0

You can play it over at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

Mar-03-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "Carlsen-Svidler blitz match"]
[Site "chess24"]
[Date "2019.02.25"]
[Round "5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Magnus Carlsen"]
[Black "Peter Svidler"]
[ECO "A40"]
[WhiteElo "2954"]
[BlackElo "2805"]

1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 f5 6.e4 fxe4 7.f3 Nf6 8.fxe4 Qa5 9.Nf3 Nxe4 10.Qc2 O-O 11.Bd3 Qxc3+ 12.Qxc3 Nxc3 13.a4 e6 14.Bd2 exd5 15.Bxc3 d4 16.Bd2 Nc6 17.O-O d6 18.Bh6 Rf6 19.Ng5 Bf5 20.Be4 Ne5 21.Bxb7 Re8 22.Bd5+ Kh8 23.Ne4 Bxe4 24.Rxf6 Bxd5 25.cxd5 1-0

Play it over at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

Is there any point to submitting games anymore? It seems that since Daniel's death they never get uploaded to the database.

Mar-03-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "10-Board Simultaneous Display"]
[Site "Oxford"]
[Date "1944.02.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mieses, Jacques"]
[Black "Schenk, Hans Georg"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "53"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. Nf3 e5 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Be3 Bg4 7. Be2 O-O-O 8. O-O Qa5 9. Nxe5 Bxe2 10. Qxe2 Nxe5 11. dxe5 Nh6 12. Nb5 a6 13. a4 Be7 14. b4 Bxb4 15. Rfb1 c6 16. c3 axb5 17. cxb4 Qa6 18. a5 Nf5 19. Bb6 Rd5 20. Rd1 Ne7 21. Qg4+ Kb8 22. Qxg7 Rc8 23. Qf6 Rxd1+ 24. Rxd1 Nd5 25. Qd6+ Ka8 26. Rxd5 cxd5 27. g3 1-0

Mar-07-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "Internet blitz"]
[Site "lichess"]
[Date "2019.03.07"]
[White "Frederick Rhine"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 e6 2. e4 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. c4 Bb4+ 5. Ke2 Nb6 6. c5 Nd5 7. a3 Qh4 8. axb4 Qe4+ 9. Be3 Nf4+ 10. Kd2 Nxg2 11. Nc3 Qg6 12. Bd3 f5 13. exf6 Qxf6 14. Ne4 Qf8 15. Qg4 Nxe3 16. fxe3 Qf5 17. Nd6+ cxd6 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Qxg7 Rf8 20. cxd6 Nc6 21. b5 Nb4 22. Qe7# 1-0 You can play the game over at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

Mar-11-19  centralfiles: This one in my 8.Bxf7+ line is an FSR style miniature. https://www.chess.com/live/game/352...
Mar-12-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "POR-CHN"]
[Site "Macau"]
[Date "1996.??.??"]
[EventDate "1996.??.??"]
[Round "3"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Ye Jiangchuan"]
[Black "Rui Miguel Damaso Pereira de Almeida"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "2560"]
[BlackElo "2415"]

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Bg4 4. Be2 Bxe2 5. Qxe2 Qxd5 6. Nf3 e6 7. O-O Bd6 8. c4 Qh5 9. Nc3 Nc6 10. h3 O-O-O 11. Be3 g5 12. Nxg5 Qg6 13. Qf3 Bb4 14. Rfd1 Bxc3 15. bxc3 h6 16. d5 Ne5 17. Qe2 hxg5 18. Bxa7 Qf5 19. Rab1 Ne4 20. Bd4 g4 21. Qb2 b6 22. Qa3 gxh3 23. Bxb6 Nf3+ 24. Kf1 hxg2+ 25. Ke2 Ng3+ 26. fxg3 Qe4+ 27. Be3 g1=N+ 28. Kf1 Qxc4+ 29. Kg2 Rh2# 0-1

Play the game over at https://chess-db.com/public/game.js....

Mar-12-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <centralfiles> Very amusing!
Mar-14-19  centralfiles: This one from the same session is a real work art of art except i spilled the whole can of paint during that last final touch...

https://www.chess.com/live/game/352...

My opponent played very quickly and solidly throughout. Committing no real errors except for going into this line in the first place. Fortunately for me it meant I could use my preparation easily. However at move 29 I somehow missed Nf5# then fingerslipped 29.Bxe7 instead of 29.Rxe7 and with only 30 seconds left proceded to lose the game. The last stroke should've been 29.Nf5# of course.

1. e4 c5
2. c3 Nf6
3. e5 Nd5
4. d4 cxd4
5. Nf3 Nc6
6. cxd4 d6
7. Bc4 Nb6
8. Bxf7+ Kxf7
9. e6+ Kg8
10. d5 Ne5
11. Nc3 Nxf3+
12. Qxf3 Qe8
13. a4 Nc4
14. Qe2 Ne5
15. f4 Ng6
16. h4 h5
17. Nb5 Qd8
18. Qe4 Rh6
19. Ra3 Nh8
20. f5 Rh7
21. Rg3 a6
22. Nd4 b6
23. O-O Bb7
24. Bg5 Rc8
25. f6 exf6
26. Bxf6 Be7


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27.Qxh7+! Kxh7
28.Rxg7+ Kh6
29.Nf5#

Mar-16-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <centralfiles> Yes, a very nice game until your tragic brain fart. A shame to blow it like that.

Komodo 12 likes 10...Nb4! better than 10...Ne5. At first, it thinks Black is better in all lines, but the more it looks at it, the better it likes White's chances. Here is some analysis I did with Komodo: http://view.chessbase.com/cbreader/... The best I could find for Black, if White plays all the best moves, is allowing White a draw by perpetual! So I think your Bxf7+ sac is a serious line for White.

Mar-16-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <centralfiles> Here's some analysis of Black's ninth move alternatives 9...Ke8 and 9...Kxe6. So far, Komodo 12 likes those moves better than 9...Kg8. http://view.chessbase.com/cbreader/... Even 9...Bxe6 is a move. Then Komodo gives 10.Ng5+ Kf6 11.Nc3 d5 12.g4 Qc8 13.Qf3+ Bf5 14.gxf5 Qxf5 15.Nxd5+ Nxd5 16.Ne4+ Ke6 17.Ng5+ with a draw by perpetual. ChessBase Online has only 44 games where White played 9.e6+. (The weak 9.Ng5+ was played 100 times.) After 9.e6+, 9...Kg8 was by far the most common move (28 games), but White scored the best (46.4%). 9...Kxe6 was played only 8 times, with White scoring just 25%. 9...Ke8 was played 5 times, with White scoring only 20%. 9...Bxe6 was played thrice, with White scoring 33.3%. The highest rated players to play White in this line are Rainer Zufall, Rybka 2.3 (2520) (=1 -1), R. Przedmojski (2396) (=1), Jan Pinski (2375) (=1 -1), and J. Skonieczny (2324) +1). I'm sensing a Polish theme here. I just looked at Skonieczny's win, which was an e-mail game, and Black was actually winning in the final position. I don't know if Black lost on time or if the result is wrong. But so far White hasn't done well in this line.
Mar-17-19  centralfiles: <FSR> Thanks for the analysis. I have done some work myself with stockfish in these lines. I can try to sum it up if you want. I don't think this line is viable at a high level slow game there are too many lines where black is plain better if not outright winning but as a one time blitz or at slightly lower levels it might be more viable. In my own experience playing blitz at 2000ish level, it is very effective even against higher rated opponents I usually end up with winning position. As far the actual lines go 9...Ke8 is perhaps not objectively inferior to ...Kg8 if you follow up just right, but in most lines ...Kg8 is simply better. I doubt many strong positional players would even consider ...Ke8.

9...Kxe6
10.Ng5+ Kd7
11.Nf7 Qe8
12.Nxa1 g5!<to hold f4> is very likely the strongest reply for black.

Mar-17-19  centralfiles: Most common reply by my opponents has been 9...Kg8 10.d5 Ne5 11.Nc3

White has excellent chances here although objectively black still has drawing lines.

Mar-17-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <centralfiles> I played the line myself as White in a 5-minute game on playchess.com against someone rated in the low 2200s, which I guess is a fairly high rating on that site. We played the 9...Kg8 10.d5 Ne5 11.Nc3 line. It was interesting for a while, but degenerated into a time-pressure scramble at the end, which I won.
Mar-17-19  centralfiles: Good for you :)
Do we get to see it?
You've already seen my ideas against 11...g6 and 11...Nxf3+.

There are still plenty of other reasonable moves for black:

11...Qe8
11...Nbc4
11...Ng4!?
11...h6
11...h5
Are all playable.

Mar-17-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Sorry, I don't have a record of it, so it's lost to posterity. I didn't think it was a great game, ultimately - at the end we were just blitzing trying to flag each other.
Mar-18-19  centralfiles: I don't need the end i just want the next 10 moves about, after 11...Nc3. I'm just curious how do you play on playchess.com did you download it for free or get it bundled with some chessbase software? If you got it bundled with a chessbase program it's very likely your games are saved automatically in a "myinternetgames" folder.
Mar-20-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just go to the site and play anonymously, so AFAIK there's no record of my games.
Mar-20-19  centralfiles: Oh well then.
I'm trying to figure out best practical way to win in all lines here. Not sure why i decided that this is most important chess position out there at the moment. Every time i tried it in blitz I went over game improving what i did wrong. I need to do this better for all openings.
Mar-20-19  centralfiles: To be fair, in the 10...Ne5 lines Black is often so restricted with only a few practical options which makes preparing ideas particularly effective.
Mar-24-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted (don't know why I bother):

[Event "National Open"]
[Site "Las Vegas"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[EventDate "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Dean Arond"]
[Black "Thomas Thrush"]
[ECO "B14"]
[WhiteElo "1895"]
[BlackElo "2140"]

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Be7 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.Bd3 0-0 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Re1 Nf6 11.a3 b6 12.Bc2 Bb7 13.Qd3 Rc8 14.d5 exd5 15.Bg5 g6 16.Rxe7 Qxe7 17.Nxd5 Nxd5 18.Bxe7 Ncxe7 19.Bb3 Rc5 20.Bxd5 Rxd5 21.Qe2 Nc6 22.Rd1 Rc5 23.h3 Rc8 24.Rd7 1-0

Mar-25-19  centralfiles: Looks like the old Re1-Bc2-Qd3-d5! trick where many great players have failed to appreciate the necessity of playing ...g6 immediately. I am familiar with it in the c3 sicilian 2...d5 positions to which this seems to transpose.
Mar-25-19  centralfiles: Smyslov vs Karpov, 1971 Here both players arguably missed 14.d5!, probably because they were only 2600 players.
Apr-09-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "Internet blitz"]
[Site "lichess"]
[Date "2019.03.02"]
[EventDate "2019.03.02"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Frederick Rhine"]
[Black "NN"]
[ECO "B01"]

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nf3 e6 4. d4 c6 5. c4 Qd8 6. Bd3 h6 7. O-O Nf6 8. Nc3 Be7 9. Bf4 a6 10. Qd2 Nbd7 11. Rfe1 Nh5 12. Rxe6 Nxf4 13. Qxf4 O-O 14. Rxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 f5 16. Qg6+ Kh8 17. Bxf5 Rxf5 18. Qxf5 Nf6 19. Qg6 Nh7 20. Ne5 Qg8 21. Nf7+ Qxf7 22. Qxf7 Bf6 23. Re1 Bf5 24. Re8+ 1-0

You can play over the game at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

Apr-13-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Submitted:

[Event "19th Bangkok Chess Club Open"]
[Site "Bangkok, Thailand"]
[Date "2019.04.13"]
[EventDate "2019.04.06"]
[Round "8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Jan Gustafsson"]
[Black "The An Duong"]
[ECO "A18"]
[WhiteElo "2633"]
[BlackElo "2302"]

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 3.e4 d5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.e5 Nfd7 6.d4 c5 7.Nf3 Nc6 8.Bg5 Qa5 9.Be2 cxd4 10.Nxd4 Nc5 11.O-O Be6 12.Bb5 Rc8 13.Nxe6 fxe6 14.Qh5+ g6 15.Qg4 h5 16.Qf4 Nd7 17.Nxd5 Qxb5 18.Nf6+ Nxf6 19.Qxf6 Rh7 20.Qxe6+ Ne7 21.Bxe7 Rxe7 22.Qxc8+ Kf7 23.f4 Qb6+ 24.Kh1 Rc7 25.Qd8 1-0

Comment: This game gave Jan Gustafsson the lead in the Bangkok Chess Club Open with one round left to play. I suggest that it be made Game of the Day with the caption "One Night in Bangkok."

You can play over the game at https://www.denverchess.com/games/v...

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