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Oct-31-21 | | Nosnibor: The Leicester Chess Club has been defunct for nearly 20 years now. However it would appear that Atkins was somewhat lazy in snippets that I have been able to pick up from Donald Gould the chess historian of Leicester. A conversation between Atkins and Gould (22/04/1939) on a train journey following a County match in Nottingham began when Don asked Atkins whether the standard of Leicestershire chess had improved since he played for his county at the age of 15,over 50 years ago."Mr. Atkins stroked his moustache and was non-committal. He agreed ,however ,that the vast increase in the number of really good text books gave the modern youngster, with an aptitude for the game, a big advantage. Fifty years ago, natural ability and reference to the sprinkling of masters` games published in the press were all the average player had to rely on. Niemzowitsch and the "hyper-moderns" have had little effect on the master`s style,which remains, if I may coin an expression, "Scientifically aggressive". "I have made three attempts to read Niemzowisch`s book ("My System"), but have been too lazy to finish it." |
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Aug-20-22
 | | Dionysius1: Before the rush starts, let me point out that Atkins was born 150 years ago today. Worth celebrating for those of us who are alive, but I won't wish him Happy Birthday because he's dead. I know Google wishes dead people happy birthday sometimes, but if I do before I know it I'll be wishing him many happy returns. And even for someone with vague Buddhist leanings (are there other kinds?), that would be extracting the Michael. |
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Aug-20-22 | | Nosnibor: <Dionysius> I agree with your sentiment. I was just learning the rudiments of the game when Atkins passed away. He was probably in the top six in the World between 1898 and 1912. |
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Aug-20-22
 | | Dionysius1: Thanks <Nosnibor> I'll play through some of his games tonight. It's a shame he didn't get round to publishing annotations or memories :-(. I don't want to cavil on his birthday (I'm trying to give up cavilling any time). So the gentlest of enquiries: what's with his British Championship record being unparalleled (9 wins), and Jonathan Penrose's being a record (10 wins). Are there nuances that make these claims both true? D |
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Aug-20-22
 | | MissScarlett: It's the ratio of success rather than the vulgar number of wins. |
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Aug-20-22
 | | Dionysius1: So different people could hold the record for the championship, and it could be for number of titles, number of titles compared to efforts, amount of money earned, weight of silverware, number of titles won when there was an r in the month, years between first title and last, smallest aggregated number of moves taken to win the title, shortest aggregate length of time taken to win, least calories used in winning, least weight lost in winning the title? Maybe so. But that's just debasing the words (record, unparalled, never exceeded etc) Pah! They don't all have to be top of the tree: that's like everyone has to have a prize for participating. Yuk. Dang, and I wasn't going to cavil. I don't expect Jonathan Penrose or Henry Atkins mind that much anyway. |
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Aug-20-22 | | Nosnibor: <Dionysius 1> The comparisons are that Atkins played in 11 events and won 9,only losing in his first attempt after tying for first in a playoff. Then finishing 3rd equal at the age of 65 in 1937! Penrose played in 21 events and won 10 times. He gave up O.T.B. chess at 54 years of age due to health problems. |
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Aug-20-22
 | | Dionysius1: Thanks again. I just prefer one pespective when I'm tired, though of course there will be many anyway. And all perspectives of excellence. I totally take your and <MissScarlett>'s points. No disrespect to Penrose or Atkins. Best for me to stick to the games today :-) |
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Aug-21-22
 | | Dionysius1: I like Atkins' style. He seems to "just" play sensible moves, acquire a positional advantage and find winning tactics on the basis of what he's done. I'm envious. It's like watching a golfer play great strokes all the time and wondering why when I think I'm doing the same thing it mostly doesn't work. |
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Aug-21-22
 | | Dionysius1: Here's an example of what I mean. H E Atkins vs J W te Kolste, 1899 Atkins has played 14 blameless moves. Just putting his pieces on good squares. Not moving a piece twice unnecessarily (well, 13.Rfe1 and 14.Bb3 hardly count).  click for larger viewNow 15.Ne5 Nd5, and boom! The game's all over, with two of the nastiest N moves I've seen. |
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Aug-21-22
 | | Dionysius1: Just to clarify: 15.Ne5 Nd5 aren't the 2 nasty N moves I meant. They come at 16 and 19. Have a look anyway :-) H E Atkins vs J W te Kolste, 1899 |
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Jan-09-23 | | stone free or die: I like the photograph <CG> currently has of him well enough, but there's an even better one here: https://britishchessnews.com/wp-con... https://britishchessnews.com/catego... . |
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Jul-02-23
 | | FSR: https://mannchess.org.uk/People/Atk... |
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Nov-09-23 | | Caissanist: User: simaginfan posted a fine biographical sketch of Atkins on Chess.com, including the entirety of R.N. Coles' own bio in his book of Atkins' games: https://www.chess.com/blog/simaginf... |
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Jan-27-24
 | | MissScarlett: D E Rumens vs Chandler, 1976 They played an Atkins memorial tournament in 1976!? i) Why? ii) What happened? |
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Jan-28-24
 | | Stonehenge: It should be in BCM 1977, p. 17 (Di Felice). |
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Jul-03-24
 | | FSR: Atkins bears an uncanny resemblance to Jim "Johnny Cakes" Witowski, mobster Vito Spatafore's lover in Season 6 of <The Sopranos>. https://sopranos.fandom.com/wiki/Ji... |
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Apr-04-25 | | Nosnibor: From my memory of Atkins has a smallboy I recall he was rather slight in build compared to Jim Witowski. But their facial features were somewhat similar. |
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Apr-04-25
 | | offramp: I know that Pillsbury has a very 21st century <look>. Atkins is the same. |
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Apr-04-25 | | stone free or die: <<off> Atkins is the same.> With that moustache?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walru... |
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Apr-05-25
 | | offramp: <stone free or die: <<off> Atkins is the same.>
With that moustache?!>
He is far out.
In Soho we used to call some men <Scene>, i.e. obviously those <OUT> and sporting a Freddie Mercury tache. Especially the women. I used to go to Soho solely to play <Galaga> and <Crystal Castles>. I spent a fortune in that area. |
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Apr-05-25 | | stone free or die: "Freddie Mercury tache" = Chevron
Apparently Fred, and his 'tache, have made it into a video game (don't know if available in Soho): https://townsquare.media/site/722/f... |
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Jun-26-25
 | | FSR: In 1950 FIDE issued its first list of International Grandmasters and International Masters. Before that happened, the member countries of FIDE nominated players that they thought should be on the list. I read somewhere that England proposed Atkins for the IM title. The Soviets were confused. <Who? James Macrae Aitken? Was he really worthy of the title?> The Brits replied, <No, not Aitken, Atkins.> They pointed out that he had finished 2.5 points ahead of Chigorin at 13th DSB Congress, Hanover (1902). The USSR withdrew its objection. |
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Jun-26-25
 | | perfidious: <FSR....The Brits replied, <No, not Aitken, Atkins.> They pointed out that he had finished 2.5 points ahead of Chigorin at 13th DSB Congress, Hanover (1902). The USSR withdrew its objection.> Never heard anything about that till now, but the British proposal was obviously far less objectionable than that of 'renegade' Bogolyubov being named a grandmaster. |
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Jun-26-25
 | | FSR: <perfidious> Bogo played Alekhine for the world championship twice. You'd think that would entitle him to be on the first GM list. Even Saemisch made the list, and Saemisch wasn't fit to shine Bogo's shoes. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... But no, Bogo had to wait until the next year to get the title. I have never seen this laid out, but my guess is that the delay was due to him being a supporter of Hitler. I once saw a copy of a letter he had written that concluded <Heil Hitler!> Made me a bit ill. |
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