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|Mar-31-11|| ||Maatalkko: http://www.europe-echecs.com/embed/...|
I have to call attention to this hilarious diagram. Especially the expression on the "Entraineur's" face.
|Mar-31-11|| ||Maatalkko: <Atking> He didn't use 64 boards. He would first stop behind one board, to signify square, and then another, to signify number. IDK what Feller did when he had a choice of capturing on the same square with two pieces. Maybe there was a further code for which piece, or maybe Feller was on his own for those moves.|
In any case, he is a bold mofo to show up at Aix-Les-Bains like nothing happened.
|Mar-31-11|| ||Atking: I'm not sure to understand completely but thanks <Maatalkko>.|
|Apr-03-11|| ||HSOL: Hmm, how come if the team captain participated in the cheating, that France haven't got disqualified from the Olympiad played and suspended for upcoming nation events?|
|Apr-03-11|| ||vanytchouck: <Atking>
An "example" (even if i don't know if this did happen for this move) :
France - England (Round 5)
MVL vs Adams
Fressinet vs Short
Tkachiev vs McShane
Feller vs Howell
Adams is A and 1;
Short is B and 2;
Mc Shane is C and 3;
Feller is E and 5;
MVL is H and 8.
For the move 19. Nb4-c2, Marzolo would have sent the sms 06 19 24 32 xx (xx are two random digits) to Hauchard.
Hauchard would go to the table 2, behind Short (with surely a little sign) then to the table 4 (behind Howell), then to the table 3 (behind McShane), and finally to the table 2.
Maybe it was easier there to only give c2.
Anyway, without backing the hypothesis of Feller's innocence, i'd like to point out that there is still some ambiguity about this.
a) There is no single legal evidence of this (the sms are kept secret).
Only the huge number of sms is known. Around 200 by game. Exactly during the game. 0 before and 0 after ...
b) The description of the system (nicknamed the "flight of the bumblebee" ) is "only" the testimony of the main accusator.
c) There is no single evidence that S.Feller did receive the coded moves, and actually play them.
d)there is also another theory of Feller checking his sms with his phone.
|Apr-03-11|| ||Atking: <Vanytchouck> Thanks for a detailled explanation. I undertsand better.|
Still I keep my doubts.
I played myself in olympiads and I know the game itself needs an amount of concentration to care other things. Especially an agitated captain...
If I understand correctly the explanation you gave, the move order (Of this captain!) is crucial. You miss it and instead c2 you have b3!?
This affair is not clear to me.
Add the organisers arbiters and eventually players may have checked every move of S Feller in the recent Europeen Championship and got nothing. Still Feller finished 7 the best French result so far. So what?The game vs Howell is great but not impossible for a player performing to 2700. Indeed at Aix "without help" S Feller showed he plays well.
|Apr-03-11|| ||fab4: Not read all the thread.. but I mean? .. she read the text message.|
|Apr-03-11|| ||rover: <Atking> There's still the little problem of 200 messages sent to the captain <during the games>. There were reports of Hauchard checking his phone often during the games.|
Maybe less conclusive, but I'd expect a more public and open defense from the captain if he was innocent. After all, the damage to his reputation is much more important than any possible legal repercussions. So I'm a little puzzled why wouldn't he allow the contents of the messages as evidence or even make them public, if they disproved the accusers theory.
|Apr-03-11|| ||fab4: She did read the text message.|
|Apr-04-11|| ||BobCrisp: As predicted, Feller ended with what must surely be the best (legal) performance of his career: 7th place and a 2766 TPR. I now equally predict that his career will take a sudden swallow dive.|
|Apr-08-11|| ||polarmis: Vladimir Potkin, the European Champion, said he'd also have signed the open letter and talks about the cheating in Khanty-Mansiysk - I've also included a video where Zahar Efimenko (Ukraine) says there were rumours of cheating during the Olympiad, and he suspected Feller after their game:|
|Apr-08-11|| ||SugarDom: A lot of people here in this forum is kinda like the suspicious husband. |
He hires a detective agency to follow his wife.
The wife meets with a handsome young lad and goes to dinner with him. After wards after sipping some wine they proceed to the hotel room where the detective see them kissing from the window. Then they switched off the lights.
These events were all reported by the detective to the husband, who replied:
"They turned off the lights? Drats! Now we'll never know for sure if my wife is cheating on me!".
|Apr-11-11|| ||offramp: Feller is paying some detectives to find "the REAL cheaters."|
|Apr-11-11|| ||BobCrisp: Or he could just blame the English. English people, I mean, not the opening.|
|Jun-07-11|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <SugarDom> LOL. When the allegations first emerged, I was inclined to withhold judgment, but the case against Feller et al. has become convincing. It is a great shame. Chess needs a zero tolerance policy, i.e., a lifetime ban for the first instance of cheating.|
|Aug-14-11|| ||Prugno: Today Feller lost his first round game in the 2011 French Championship against Fressinet. |
It will be interesting to see how he will score in this very tough event, featuring top players such as Vachier-Lagrave and Bacrot as well as several "naturalized" Frenchmen like Istratescu and Hamdouchi (a 30' delay in Internet retransmission is also enforced).
|Aug-19-11|| ||polarmis: Feller responds to the cheating allegations (though it's clear he's decided not to discuss the details while things are still being handled by the courts...): |
|Aug-19-11|| ||Domdaniel: So ('this') Feller gets to play in the French championships because he's appealing? Right.|
|Aug-19-11|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: <Dom>--
Some might say that this Feller is rather appealing.
|Aug-19-11|| ||polarmis: <Domdaniel: So ('this') Feller gets to play in the French championships because he's appealing? Right.>|
Something like that - it seems he won an appeal, or at least the court suspended the sentence pending another hearing: http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/f... It's hard to follow French jurisprudence, especially when translated by Google :)
He's supposed to be playing in the World Cup as well.
|Aug-20-11|| ||JoergWalter: Don't hire Charlie Chan's grandson:
<THE DETECTIVE A chinese detective was hired by a husband to watch his wife, suspected of seeing another man. After a few days he sent this report: Most honorable sir: You leave house. He come house. I watch. He and she leave house. I follow. He and she go in hotel. I climb tree, look in window. He kiss she She kiss he. He strip he. She strip he He play with she. She play with he. I play with me. I fall out of tree. I do not see. . . NO FEE!>
|Jul-30-12|| ||tahdah: Suspensions to start Aug 01, 2012 for Mr. Sébastien FELLER, Mr. Arnaud HAUCHARD.|
FIDE Ethics Commission suspends Hauchard, Feller and Marzolo
Judgement rendered by the FIDE Ethics Commission in the case “French Team”, concerning a complaint submitted by the French Chess Federation against Mr. Sébastien FELLER, Mr. Arnaud HAUCHARD and Mr. Cyril MARZOLO, and a report submitted by the FIDE Executive Director, in reference to facts allegedly committed during the 2010 Chess Olympiad in Khanty-Mansiysk (Russia), for an alleged violation of par. 2.2.5 of the FIDE Code of Ethics.
The Ethics Commission rules that:
- all submitted objections and preliminary requests have to be dismissed;
- Mr. Sébastien FELLER, Mr. Arnaud HAUCHARD and Mr. Cyril MARZOLO are responsible for the violation of par. 2.2.5 of the FIDE Code of Ethics;
- Mr. Arnaud HAUCHARD has to be sanctioned with the exclusion from the participation in all FIDE tournaments, as a player or as a member of a national delegation, for a period of 3 (three) years, starting from the 1st of August 2012;
- Mr. Sébastien FELLER has to be sanctioned with the exclusion from the participation in all FIDE tournaments, as a player or as a member of a national delegation, for a period of 2 (two) years and 9 (nine) months, starting from the 1st of August 2012;
- Mr. Cyril MARZOLO has to be sanctioned with the exclusion from the participation in all FIDE tournaments, as a player or as a member of a national delegation, for a period of 1 (one) year and 6 (six) months, with a suspension of the sanction for the last nine months, under probation, in accordance with the decision of the CNOS (Comité National Olympique et Sportif Français); for what concerns the effects of the present decision, the validity of the already executed suspension since 27 May 2011 can be confirmed, but it has to be affirmed the competence of the FIDE EC regarding the evaluation of the period of probation, starting from 27 February 2012 till 27 November 2012, and the French Chess Federation has to be requested to send the FIDE Secretariat a report on the behavior of Mr. Cyril MARZOLO during the above mentioned period of nine months;
- FIDE Secretariat and FIDE Presidential Board have to be informed of the present decision for all possible consequences related to the results of the games played by Mr Sébastien FELLER during the 2010 Chess Olympiad, concerning ratings, rankings and prizes;
- a written motivation will follow and will be communicated to the parties by the FIDE Secretariat.
|Jul-31-12|| ||PhilFeeley: Details of the decision also on Chessbase: http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...|
|Jul-31-12|| ||TheFocus: His nickname is Jolly Good.|
|Aug-20-12|| ||brankat: S.Feller got caught cheating in October of 2010. Full 3 years after he had won a GM title, and had had his most successful season, so far. One has to wonder whether there had been any cheating then, too.|
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