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| Jul-27-04 |
| offramp: I have been reading Suetin's "Three Steps to Chess Mastery."
It's not a bad book but out of the hundreds of examples from throughout chess history there is not one single mention of Kortschnoi!
Obviously it was written when VK was a 'non-person'. |
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Jul-27-04
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| Gypsy: <...there is not one single mention of Kortschnoi! Obviously it was written when VK was a 'non-person'.> If it is the same book I think it is, <offramp>, then you may find quite a number of game positions without attribution. I suspect that those (or most of those) are Korchnoi. |
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Oct-28-04
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: Either that, offramp, or Suetin was upset with how often he lost to Korchnoi. Here is a pretty neat game in which Viktor sacs a pawn in the Scandinavian for a persistent intiative. Suetin vs Korchnoi, 1960 |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| DanielBryant: Wasn't he Petrosian's trainer? |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| aw1988: Suetin was possibly one of the most intelligent players ever, belonging in the ranks of Lasker, Tal, and Kramnik. His words are always extremely striking. |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| aw1988: <DanielBryant> Yes, Suetin was one of Petrosian's trainers. |
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Apr-26-05
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| Gypsy: Boleslavskij, Suetin -- two of the best chess thinkers were ammong Petrosian's coaches. |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| aw1988: And Averbakh, I believe. |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| offramp: Wasn't there a horror film in the 1950s called 'I Was Petrosian's Trainer'? |
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| Apr-26-05 |
| aw1988: I think it was called "I was Petrosian's Opponent'! |
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Apr-27-05
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| Benzol: Was it true that Rona Petrosian slapped Suetin's face when Petrosian was playing his candidates final match with Fischer in 1971? |
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Apr-27-05
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| Gypsy: <aw1988: And Averbakh, I believe.> A great choice for the adjournement work. |
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| Apr-27-05 |
| aw1988: <Gypsy> That reminds me of an amusing anecdote. Paul Keres as you all know was quite the unlucky duck. In one Candidates tournament he had to play Pal Benko, whom he had defeated nine times previously. The game was adjourned in a complex endgame, and Benko analyzed it all night, and he won in only six moves later the following day. Korchnoi later asserted "With Petrosian's help!" since Petrosian was leading the tournament and the game was quite important to him. |
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Apr-27-05
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| Gypsy: <aw1988> Lol. Well, it maybe a tall story but it sounds plausible. Check out the story of the L Sanchez vs Pachman, 1959 game. |
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Apr-28-05
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| Resignation Trap: <aw1988> and <Gypsy> "Korchnoi later asserted "With Petrosian's help!" since Petrosian was leading the tournament and the game was quite important to him." Pal Benko has a different version of this story. Let me connect a few games with Benko's version of the Saga of Paul Keres at Curacao. Start here:
Keres vs Benko, 1962 |
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| Apr-28-05 |
| aw1988: <Resignation Trap> Quite interesting. |
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Apr-29-05
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| Gypsy: <Resignation Trap> Thanks for weawing the Benko's side of the story with the games. Well done! It seems to be one of those times where the facts more or less check -- it was Petrosian and Geller who came to help Benko -- but the interpretation differ. Benko claims he kicked them out unceremoniously: <A while later, Petrosian and Geller came to me in secret and offered to help me beat their own countryman! I was disgusted. Telling them that it would be a draw with best play, I demanded that they leave.> Of course, looking at the overall records of the four protagonists, I can see how Korchnoi could have arrived at his interpretation of the events. (And, for that matter, how Keres could have arrived at his.) The lifetime results amongst the four protagonists are like this: Benko-Keres +1 -10 =6
Benko-Petrosian +0 -7 =9
Benko-Geller +1 -3 =5
Keres-Petrosian +3 -3 =30
Keres-Geller +9 -7 =21
Petrosian-Geller +3 -5 =35
For the grand totals of:
Keres +22 -11 =57 (56%)
Geller +15 -13 =61 (51%)
Petrosian +13 -14 =74 (49.5%)
Benko +2 -20 =20 (28.5%) |
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| May-12-05 |
| soberknight: It's hot outside. Alexey is Suetin. |
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| May-31-06 |
| jaime gallegos: who is the current World Senior Champion ? |
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| Sep-10-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Alexey Suetin SUETIN, Alexey S.
http://www.bidmonfa.com/suetin_alex...
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| Nov-16-06 |
| WTHarvey: <jaime gallegos> Victor Korchnoi is the Senior World Champion of 2006: https://www.chessbase.com/newsdetai... |
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Nov-16-06
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| Phony Benoni: Good for Victor! But now we'll have to take him off the list of "Strongest Players Never to Become World Champion." |
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Nov-16-07
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| timhortons: suetin is a witness on how chess cheating is done on high level..anyways may you rest in peace...id read that these gentleman die after a game of chess |
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Jan-24-09
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| whiteshark: Quote of the Day
< The work of a chess player is similar to a blast furnace process: it is continuous and demands a heated passion for chess.> -- Alexander Suetin |
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Jan-24-09
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| Pyke: Hey <Sharky>, good to see you're still around. I just marked your post, because I put the same quote on my own forum ... but as usual, it turns out you were faster than me ... :-) |
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