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| Aug-03-07 |
| elLocoEvans: Not sure if it was posted before, but "The Chess Tournament. A collection of the games played at this assemblage, illustrated by copious diagrams, and notes. critical and explanatory." By H. Staunton, Esq. is already available for download at gbooks!
http://www.google.com.mx/books?id=_... |
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| Sep-15-07 |
| Amulet: Is the `English Chess Opening' the idea of this player? |
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| Sep-20-07 |
| FHBradley: <Amulet:> Yes, The English Opening is so-called, because Staunton played it on occasion. His original idea, I believe, was to play the Sicilian with reversed colours. Many of Staunton's ideas were reinvented in the 1920s by Réti (I don't know if Réti knew about Staunton). The moves 1. c4, 2. Nc3, 3. g3, 4. Bg2, 5. e3 plus Nge2 could be called the Staunton system, as in Staunton vs Horwitz, 1851, a more modern example of this strategy would be Botvinnik vs Simagin, 1952, or
Taimanov vs Simagin, 1956. The Staunton system can also be played with black pieces, as in the following game by Bobby Fischer: Smyslov vs Fischer, 1970. |
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| Mar-11-08 |
| candide1500: The notion that Staunton was a "master" of closed position is one that i have always found odd. Other than his win over Horwitz (annotated by Keene) I really don't see any other games which substantiate this. This isn't meant to bash mr. staunton...but i'm genuinely curious, has this idea just been repeated so often that people simply accept if at face value?? |
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Mar-11-08
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| keypusher: <candide1500> Here is one I like: Staunton vs Bristol, 1841
The games of his match with St. Amant in 1843 are also worth a look. I like this one: Staunton vs Saint Amant, 1843
See this game and <sneaky pete>'s comment: Staunton vs Owen / Barnes, 1858 You should also bear in mind that the closed game hardly existed before Staunton, so he was helping create things we take for granted now -- Fischer credited him with the positional use of the fianchetto, although I am not sure Fischer was right. I suspect the Horwitz game was a real revelation to chessplayers in 1851 (though Horwitz really did play badly). You might also want to pose your question on the Ray Keene page. |
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| Mar-11-08 |
| candide1500: wow thanks for the timely reply <keypusher> Ur right, considering the time the Bristol game is another fine example. However, its worth noting that his opposition played fairly poorly (again not a knock on staunton...especially considering most of my own "knowledge" of closed positions usually comes from whatever GM's book i just finished reading) Its just seems to me that in an era of ultra-romantics staunton often won just by being more patient. But as you say GM keene is probably most qualified to answer such questions. |
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: Re: Howard Staunton, Here are some contemporary quotes, which, I think, shed additional light on the man: "The deceased often acted, not only with signal lack of generosity, but also with gross unfairness towards those whom he disliked, or from whom he had suffered defeat, or whom he imagined likely to stand between him and the sun. His attacks upon Anderssen, Williams, Harrwitz, Lowenthal and Steinitz must ever be considered as a sad misuse of his vigorous intellect, especially as they were often conducted in a manner not at all consistent with a truthful spirit; nor were his innuendos concerning Morphy otherwise than an utterly unworthy means of getting out of an engagement, which he could have either declined with a good grace at first, or afterwards have honorably asked to be released from. Nevertheless, all said and done, Staunton was, as we have often heard a distinguished enemy of his say, emphatically a MAN. There was nothing weak about him, and he had a backbone that never curved with fear of any one. Of him may be averred, what was said of the renowned Duke of Bedford by Louis the Eleventh, when the courtiers of the latter were venting their deprecatory scoffs over the tomb of the great Englishman, "There lies one, before whom, if he were still alive, the boldest amongst us would tremble." – William Norwood Potter
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: "His only excuse, I think, lay in his great irritability of temper, undoubtedly the result of physical sufferings. The fact is that for many years he had been subject to a disease of the heart; this does not appear to be universally known, but to me it seems the clue to some of his peculiarities and several hitherto unexplained incidents." – Baron Tassilo von Heyderbrand und der Lasa (on Staunton) |
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: "As an author, Staunton's influence upon Chess play in this country has been immense, and it is no exaggeration to say that his literary labors are the basis upon which English Chess Society, as at present constituted, stands. Had it not been for the educating influence of his many and important Chess works, the practice of the game would have been far from attaining to the high order of excellence by which it is now characterized amongst English Chess players as a body. On the contrary, the prevailing type of play here would, in all probability, be miserably unscientific and barbarous." – William Norwood Potter
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: "From his performance in the Birmingham tournament where, after defeating a weak player named Hughes in the first round, Staunton succumbed to Lowenthal in the second, we can justly assume that in 1858 he was so far below his best form that an encounter with Morphy would have been a massacre." – David Levy
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: H.Staunton on the proposed match against P.Morphy:
"The experience, however, of some weeks, during which I have labored unceasingly, to the serious injury of my health, shows that not only is it impracticable for me to save time (to play a match), but that by no means short of giving up a great work on which I am engaged, subjecting the publishers to the loss of thousands, and myself to an action for breach of contract, could I obtain time even for the match itself. Such a sacrifice is, of course, out of all question." – Howard Staunton (on the proposed match with Morphy) |
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Mar-12-08
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| brankat: And, finally, Bobby Fischer:
"Staunton was the most profound opening analyst of all time. He was more theorist than player, but nonetheless he was the strongest player of his day. Playing over his games, I discover that they are completely modern; where Morphy and Steinitz rejected the fianchetto, Staunton embraced it. In addition, he understood all of the positional concepts which modern players hold so dear, and thus - with Steinitz - must be considered the first modern player." – Bobby Fischer
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| Apr-12-08 |
| stupidiot21: staunton started chess very late didn't he? |
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Apr-16-08
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| Karpova: Staunton and Shakespeare:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/.... Modern reference books don't seem to mention him too often. |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| Cibator: I've often wondered whether the Staunton Gambit (1.d4 f5 2.e4) was actually invented or played by Howard S. It's so at odds with what one thinks of as his highly conservative style. |
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Apr-25-08
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| Karpova: <Cibator>
Staunton vs Horwitz, 1846 |
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| Apr-29-08 |
| Cibator: Thanks <Karpova>. |
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May-16-08
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| Knight13: Chessmetrics Player Profile: Howard Staunton
Born: 1810-Jan
Died: 1874-Jun
Best World Rank: #1 (76 different months between the May 1843 rating list and the August 1849 rating list ) Highest Rating: 2706 on the November 1846 rating list, #1 in world, age 36y10m Best Individual Performance: 2751 in Cochrane-Staunton Match (London), 1843, scoring 14/18 (78%) vs 2571-rated opposition |
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Jun-06-08
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| Karpova: C.N. 5603 is quite a long Chess note on Staunton as a Shakespearan scholar:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Jun-15-08
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| Karpova: Edward Winter's new feature article "Attacks on Howard Staunton": http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... Excerpts:
<How he, with the commonest perception of what is decent or becoming in society, or with the smallest possible grain of modesty in his composition, can suffer things to be printed in his own magazine that he does, has long been the astonishment of the sober-minded portion of the chess world.’>
From: "A Review of “The Chess Tournament,” by H. Staunton, Esq." by ‘A member of the London Chess Club’ (London, 1852), page 19 Wilhelm Steinitz: <‘… judging from the effect which the first shots from these journalistic batteries had on myself, I have always suspected, that Morphy’s subsequent apathy and hatred for chess, which was, I believe, not alone the first symptom but also the cause of decay of his powerful genius, must have originated from the treatment which he received from that Mr Staunton …’>
From: "International Chess Magazine", July 1888, pages 210-213 |
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Aug-06-08
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| ray keene: the staunton memorial starts tomorrow-games will appear the day after play on the website www.howardstaunton.com
players include adams short timman speelman wade van wely sokolov-DR ERIC SCHILLER IS THE ARBITER |
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| Aug-06-08 |
| Voltaic: that's good news, Mr. Keene, and a great line-up. i'll root for Speelman and Short in this tournament. |
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| Aug-11-08 |
| jaydes: About the Staunton memorial, there was this drawing of lots in a rather unconventional manner to say the least - driving toy cars through an image of Kasparov. I suppose there's a joke somewhere, but I don't get it. |
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Sep-22-08
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| Karpova: C.N. 5769 - The first Ladies' Chess Club
Howard Staunton in "Illustrated London News":
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“‘Margaret J.’, Kensington. – The establishment of a Ladies’ Chess Club, is, indeed, an event in the history of the game, and one of the most pleasing evidences of the progress this fine intellectual discipline is making in society. Let us hope the example set by the ladies in Kensington will be followed by our countrywomen in other directions. The game played between Miss E. and Miss M. is excellent in style, and calculated to afford a very high notion of the capabilities of the fair combatants. Can it be possible they have attained such knowledge of the game in three months’ practice only?” (27 November 1847, page 346.) “‘R.T.C.’–‘V.’–‘Amazon’. – The Ladies’ Chess Club, to which we alluded in our last, is established at Kennington, not Kensington; and is to be called ‘The Penelope Club’. We presume it will be composed exclusively of female members; but, possibly, as an incentive to excellence, an exception to this rule will be admitted in the case of the leading player of the time, who might without impropriety be entitled to the privileges of an ‘Honorary Member’.” (4 December 1847, page 371.)> Apparently, the game he refers to in the first part was given on pages 63-64 of "A Chess Omnibus" (C.N. 2447) - it's a game between "Miss C." and "Miss M.". Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... Does anyone have access to the source I gave for the game and could submit it? |
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| Sep-22-08 |
| GrahamClayton: Was Staunton the first chess player to endorse a chess product by adding his name to the pieces designed by Nathaniel Cook? |
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