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Jan-18-06 | | abcpokerboy: Larsen holds the kind of position Topalov held until the last 18 months: while a top GM, he was best known for some famous losses. He made the Burgess, Nunn 3 times with losses to Spassky (the famous miniature), Fischer and Tal. Topalov made the original list with 2 losses, then in the revised edition 3 more losses of his, all from Linares 1999, made the list. Unlike Larsen though Topalov seems to have weathered the abuse to do ok ;). |
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Jan-18-06 | | Larsker: Topalov and Larsen are different types.
Larsen had - he's still alive but doesn't play so much chess anymore - a fragile health. In fact, he took up ches while lying sick in bed as a child. Topalov is more a steamroller type of player.
Larsen was famous for playing "crazy" openings that would end up in brilliancies - either winning or losing. He won games against everyone, including Fischer, Spassky, etc. As to the 0-6 wipe-out against Fischer. The site that was chosen for the games was anti-Larsen. He was suffering because of the intense heat. Timing: Larsen went head-on into Fischer in his prime. Topalov was lucky that Kasparov retired and that Anand was topping out. You have to be lucky too. And - oh - finally: Do I feel like defending Larsen when trolls like <abcpokerboy> are denigrating him. Not really. Larsen's games speak for themselves. A fine player, a fine author of chess books and a fine, good-humoured man. |
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Jan-20-06 | | refutor: Larsen's "Best Games of Chess" - any reviews of it? is it in algebraic? |
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Jan-20-06 | | larsenfan: <refutor: Larsen's "Best Games of Chess" - any reviews of it? is it in algebraic? > Also publihed as "Bent Larsen master of counter attack" first edition was printed in 1970 as far as I know. Descriptive notation, contains 50 games annotated by Larsen. I also own a spanish edition, almost impossible to find, printed in 1973 which includes an extra chapter with 12 more games. Larsen's notes are extremely instructive, no as dry as Karpov's , neither so stuffed with variations as Kasparov's, and he has a great sense of humor. Of particular interest is his phycological approach to some games. He has written several more books, but unfortunately they are out of print and har to find. You can see more reviews at amazon. My advise is: buy that book and enjoy it. |
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Jan-20-06 | | tud: Morozevich is more of Larsen |
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Jan-21-06 | | larsenfan: refutor Larsen's "Best Games of Chess"
By the way refutor, right now there is one copy of this book at ebay... |
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Jan-23-06
 | | WannaBe: Bled, Candidate tournament, Bent was Bobby's second. Only learned this while reading "Russians versus Fischer". Now, knowing how 'grumpy' Bobby can get, how did they survive the almost 2 month long tournament? Why did Bobby choose Bent? Maybe this allowed Bobby to have an understanding of Bent no one else did? And later led to the 6-0 shutout in Denver? |
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Jan-23-06 | | nescio: <WannaBe: Now, knowing how 'grumpy' Bobby can get, how did they survive the almost 2 month long tournament?> Larsen told afterwards to his good friend Hein Donner that Fischer managed to drive him almost desperate by sitting alone in his room with a chess set, eating sparingly and sleeping little. Also, for instance, Bobby's persistence in playing a dubious variation of the Caro-Kann, although he lost game after game with it. Larsen told him again and again to play something else, but to no avail. <Why did Bobby choose Bent?> The number of grandmasters from the "West" was quite limited in 1959. There was some money available for a second, and rumor has it that Bobby asked Donner, who replied that it would be wiser to have him accompanied by his mother.
The source of this information is Donner himself, so the usual caveat is applicable. <Maybe this allowed Bobby to have an understanding of Bent no one else did? And later led to the 6-0 shutout in Denver?> I don't think so. The reason for the 6-0 against Larsen (and Taimanov) was the shortness of the match (10 games). 2-0 behind, both Larsen and Taimanov had to attack furiously, and in refuting unsound attacks Fischer was a real master. |
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Jan-23-06
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Feb-01-06 | | Castle In The Sky: I heard that Bent got married right before a chess tournament in the early sixties and recruited Tal to be his best man. Tal then went on to beat Bent in the tournament. Any truth to the story? |
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Feb-01-06 | | notsodeepthought: <Castle In The Sky: I heard that Bent ... recruited Tal to be his best man. Tal then went on to beat Bent in the tournament.> Nothing strange about that - Tal just wanted to confirm that he was indeed the "best" man. |
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Mar-02-06 | | BIDMONFA: Bent Larsen
LARSEN, Bent
http://www.bidmonfa.com/larsen_bent...
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Mar-02-06 | | Everett: <CHESSGAMES <When the U.S.S.R. vs. the Rest of the World match took place in 1970, he played top board for the World, scoring 1.5-1.5 against World Champion Spassky.>> and 1-0 against his substitute, Stein, I believe. |
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Mar-02-06 | | Resignation Trap: <Everett> Yes, Stein replaced Spassky in the last round, and the Dane squeezed out every drop of energy against Stein in a well-played endgame: Larsen vs Leonid Stein, 1970 . According to the official report, Spassky did not play round four because he was feeling ill.... |
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Mar-02-06 | | Resignation Trap: However, in the previous round, Spassky played poorly: Spassky vs Larsen, 1970 . Rumor has it that the World Champion was actually pulled due to his mediocre results against Larsen. |
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Mar-02-06 | | RookFile: This was a time when it legitmately wasn't clear who was best among Fischer, Larsen, Spassky, and Petrosian. |
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Mar-04-06 | | blingice: Happy Birthday, Mr. Bent Larsen! (God, someone needs to stay on top of these...) |
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Mar-06-06 | | vesivialvy93: I have great respect for Bent Larsen probably the second best in the 60's to live in the west side of ussr (after Fischer) but as one of the best of his time he is today very weak if i compare him to all the best of his time.... i don't know why he is so bad right now (2300-2400) fischer was playing 2600 in 1992.... Kortchnoi was not better than larsen in the 60's and even older than him , he still playing 2550, Spassky was a good player until mid 80's and played 2500 until he stop completely recently...Petrossian died in the first 10 in the world...Taimanov , even after the same disaster (lost 6-0 to fischer!!!) and older won the old masters world championship at 67 !!!! but Larsen struggle to keep 2400 !!!
Is he sick ? health problems ? what happen to him ? |
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Mar-06-06 | | Poulsen: Larsen is sick (diates) and this has been an important factor in recent years. But his decline startet much earlier - when he simply stopped preparing himself and stopped working seriously with chess. I don't know the exact year of that (my guess is mid-1980'es), but it is important to understand, that the possibility of becoming WCh always was a great motivating factor for Larsen. If he felt, that he was not the best, then he crumbled - and underperformed - and exterior factors got the blame.. As late as in 1986 I witnessed him saying, that if he could have 3 month to prepare, maybe Kasparov no longer would be WCh. I remember, that the audience silenced, when he said that - I became sad, that this great player could show such a lack of self-understanding. I also noted on another occasion, that he seemed out of touch with contemporary chess - as if he lived in the past - before computers became important for preparations. In any case - I think, that when he felt, that there was nothing more to achieve, then he simply lost the passion for chess. This would explain his rapid decline. |
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Mar-06-06 | | lentil: strangely, canadian gm duncan (1. ..g6) suttles (max rtg 2475) owned larsen (2625): suttles +3 =3 -0, winning 1 while still "only" an im! not sure how to explain this... |
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Mar-06-06 | | Chunkey Monkey: I am just reading an article on the exciting new Armenian GM Levon Aronian and he mentions that Larsen's book My 50 Games was his chess bible when developing as a younger player. Does anyone know if this is still in print as on amazon there are number of books by Larsen but not one with this particular title I can find anywhere. This is the link for the interview with Aronian for anybody interested and on pages 4/5 they start discussing how his style is similar to Larsen's and the Armenian confirms he indeed influenced by the Dane. http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache... |
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Mar-06-06 | | Stevens: <chunkey> i can find these... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos... any use? might add them to my wish list actually. anyone read them? except Aronian. |
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Mar-06-06 | | Chunkey Monkey: Thanks Stevens I looked at those two as well and am guessing it must be the second earlier one: Selected Games of Chess, 1948-69
Bent Larsen
Aronian and Misha Savinov seem to know the book Larsen My 50 games very well and describe it as "a wonderful book". |
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Mar-06-06 | | RookFile: Poulsen - I wasn't there, and don't know what Larsen said. But I see know reason why the Larsen of 1969
and 1970 wouldn't have a shot against anybody. There are some who I think Larsen couldn't beat, but he was a terrific player then. |
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Mar-06-06 | | larsenfan: Chunkey Monkey
Stevens
A few weeks ago someone also asked about Larsen's book, this was my answer:Also publihed as "Bent Larsen master of counter attack" first edition was printed in 1970 as far as I know. Descriptive notation, contains 50 games annotated by Larsen. I also own a spanish edition, almost impossible to find, printed in 1973 which includes an extra chapter with 12 more games. Larsen's notes are extremely instructive, no as dry as Karpov's , neither so stuffed with variations as Kasparov's, and he has a great sense of humor. Of particular interest is his phycological approach to some games. He has written several more books, but unfortunately they are out of print and har to find. You can see more reviews at amazon. My advise is: buy that book and enjoy it. |
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