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TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
(SPECIAL SCORING IN EFFECT: 3 POINTS PER WIN; 1 POINT PER DRAW)
Biel Chess Festival Tournament

Hao Wang19(+6 -3 =1)[games]
Magnus Carlsen18(+4 -0 =6)[games]
Anish Giri16(+4 -2 =4)[games]
Hikaru Nakamura16(+4 -2 =4)[games]
Etienne Bacrot7(+1 -5 =4)[games]
Victor Bologan4(+1 -6 =1)[games]
Alexander Morozevich0(+0 -2 =0)[games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 30  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. H Wang vs Bacrot 1-0362012Biel Chess FestivalE97 King's Indian
2. Morozevich vs Giri 0-1512012Biel Chess FestivalD97 Grunfeld, Russian
3. Carlsen vs Nakamura ½-½392012Biel Chess FestivalB53 Sicilian
4. Carlsen vs H Wang 1-0352012Biel Chess FestivalE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
5. Nakamura vs Giri ½-½412012Biel Chess FestivalD02 Queen's Pawn Game
6. Bacrot vs Morozevich 1-0252012Biel Chess FestivalD31 Queen's Gambit Declined
7. H Wang vs Nakamura 1-0472012Biel Chess FestivalB96 Sicilian, Najdorf
8. Giri vs Bacrot 1-0372012Biel Chess FestivalE97 King's Indian
9. Giri vs H Wang 0-1572012Biel Chess FestivalE84 King's Indian, Samisch, Panno Main line
10. Bacrot vs Carlsen ½-½562012Biel Chess FestivalE00 Queen's Pawn Game
11. Bologan vs Nakamura 0-1812012Biel Chess FestivalD20 Queen's Gambit Accepted
12. H Wang vs Bologan 1-0472012Biel Chess FestivalA58 Benko Gambit
13. Nakamura vs Bacrot 1-0342012Biel Chess FestivalE92 King's Indian
14. Carlsen vs Giri ½-½492012Biel Chess FestivalC01 French, Exchange
15. Giri vs Bologan 1-0922012Biel Chess FestivalE60 King's Indian Defense
16. Nakamura vs Carlsen ½-½332012Biel Chess FestivalD91 Grunfeld, 5.Bg5
17. Bacrot vs H Wang ½-½332012Biel Chess FestivalD90 Grunfeld
18. Bologan vs Carlsen 0-1402012Biel Chess FestivalB30 Sicilian
19. H Wang vs Carlsen 0-1602012Biel Chess FestivalE15 Queen's Indian
20. Giri vs Nakamura ½-½302012Biel Chess FestivalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
21. Bologan vs Bacrot ½-½352012Biel Chess FestivalE70 King's Indian
22. Carlsen vs Bologan 1-0402012Biel Chess FestivalA59 Benko Gambit
23. Nakamura vs H Wang 0-1412012Biel Chess FestivalA23 English, Bremen System, Keres Variation
24. Bacrot vs Giri 0-1352012Biel Chess FestivalB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
25. Giri vs Carlsen ½-½372012Biel Chess FestivalE15 Queen's Indian
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Jul-30-12  parmetd: Maybe the federation offerred them awful terms?
Jul-30-12  Kanatahodets: < csmath: You can rest asure that Carlsen will safely rock the boat for another 20 moves at least. > So Im back at home and MC needed less than 20 moves to wrap it up. As I've said before - I'm speechless. He seems to me saw it long time ago.
Jul-30-12  hellopolgar: <perfidious> Moro had a doctor's certificate, this is serious!!! In case you missed the sarcasm, "a doctor's certificate" is the organizer's way of saying "we don't think that he is ill but whatever". so even though i have been a Moro fan for a very long time (even my handle at chessbomb is morofan1), his recent behaviors at Tal and Biel are simply classless.
Jul-30-12  csmath: Looks like Wang shoot himself in foot. Tomorrow he has to meet Nakamura who is one of the meanest son ... to meet when you are down and out. It will not be easy on Wang but then so was the last game where he skillfully avoided Nakamura's torpedoes.
Jul-30-12  Kanatahodets: <csmath: Looks like Wang shoot himself in foot. Tomorrow he has to meet Nakamura who is one of the meanest son ... to meet when you are down and out. It will not be easy on Wang but then so was the last game where he skillfully avoided Nakamura's torpedoes.> Naka reminds me Kitajima, one of the most meaniest guys on swimming lanes. Though he changed a lot recently.
Jul-30-12  Kanatahodets: Magnus play Bologan tomorrow. We can see very close rating to 2851! History is making up at our eyes!
Jul-30-12  hedgeh0g: The problem with including Bologan in this tournament is he's a 2650 player in disguise. He might have farmed a bunch of points off randoms in open tournaments, but when it comes to elite tournaments, he seems to be the whipping boy.
Jul-30-12  csmath: Bologan is theoretician that seems to be losing his over-the-board strength. He is just getting older and is losing edge. He used to be better.

Plus he is unprepared for this tournament having to jump in the last moment. I feel sorry for him but then again nobody forced him to chase the money.

Jul-30-12  Bobwhoosta: <hellopolgar>

I very strenuously disagree. I have a chronic health condition, and must therefore miss work from time to time. (I am not claiming Moro's condition or situation is the same). EVEN THOUGH I have standing doctor's orders lodged with my work for this condition, I must still provide a doctor's note whenever anything new crops up. This is a very fair process and is instituted for several reasons.

1) To make sure that the person involved is INDEED ill (in other words, are you questioning the doctor here too??)

2) To provide closure to those who may otherwise claim unfairness or breach of contract. There is a level of legality involved, and a level of accountability to the organizers and players.

In other words, it is standard practice to make it known that a doctor's note has been received for reasons OTHER than the one you claim.

Jul-30-12  iqbalianpawn: isn.t it funny that Hao's two losses are against Carlsen. Carlsen who is sharing the top spot at the moment has 4 draws against players who are below in score and 2 out of 3 wins against a player who is leader of scoreboard..
Jul-30-12  Bobwhoosta: <iqbalianpawn>

Yes, this seems to contradict the common assertion that Carlsen "Feeds off the bottom feeders at tournaments".

I supposed the exception proves the rule???

Jul-30-12  AuN1: <Eggman: <<Magnus is the material that the great champions are made of. If he does not become world champion then it will be due to some silly thing outside the chess.>>

There are no guarantees. Giri, for one, seems to be coming along pretty fast. Who knows how good he'll be in a year or two?>

yeah, he's awesome, and he's only a part time player right now.

Jul-30-12  kappertjes: <Bobwhoosta: <iqbalianpawn> Yes, this seems to contradict the common assertion that Carlsen "Feeds off the bottom feeders at tournaments".

I supposed the exception proves the rule???>

This rule has long since been shown to be complete nonsense. If there is any player that is exceptionally effective against lower-rated players it is Kramnik.

There was a post somewhere by frogbert detailing performances against certain rating brackets by the top players, but can't (be arsed to) find it.

Jul-30-12  Rolfo: <There was a post somewhere by frogbert detailing performances against certain rating brackets by the top players, but can't (be arsed to) find it.>

May be frogbert will repost?

Jul-30-12  rogge: No need

Magnus Carlsen

Jul-30-12  Bobwhoosta: <kappertjes>

Yes, I was being sarcastic.

<AuN1>

Not that I don't have high hopes for Giri (and I expect sooner or later he'll be a staple of the Top 5 at least), however I find it interesting you call him "awesome" while denegrating the World Number 1 at every opportunity.

Jul-30-12  Eyal: <isn.t it funny that Hao's two losses are against Carlsen. Carlsen who is sharing the top spot at the moment has 4 draws against players who are below in score and 2 out of 3 wins against a player who is leader of scoreboard.>

It's quite similar to how things went last year in Bilbao, btw, where except for his win vs. Vallejo Carlsen had "only" two wins vs. Ivanchuk, who shared first with him and was beating everyone else... Of course, by the time this tournament ends the crosstable might look different.

Jul-30-12  twinlark: <hedgeh0g: The problem with including Bologan in this tournament is he's a 2650 player in disguise. He might have farmed a bunch of points off randoms in open tournaments, but when it comes to elite tournaments, he seems to be the whipping boy.>

Or perhaps not: Biel Chess Festival (2012)

Jul-30-12  Bobby Fiske: Some comments by GM Vlad Tkachievs after round 6:
…Magnus provoked a lot of questions during Biel. You can explain it all away by saying he’s simply “not in form” at the tournament, but what if that “not in form” hides a systematic crisis? You might say there are good grounds for the latter…We can perhaps describe it as “a drop in energy”, as without energy Magnus loses a great deal from his game. Source: http://www.whychess.org/en/node/2521

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Strangely enough there has been no report from GM Vlad Tkachievs on Magnus 2 consecutive wins after round 6.

But on my own account I have to say that in spite of having a <systematic crises> and being <without energy>, Magnus is doing OK in Biel so far.

Jul-30-12  kappertjes: <Bobwhoosta> Ok, missed the sarcasm there.

<rogge> Could be me but that link leads to an not yet existing/empty MC page.

On another topic; I wonder how Tkachiev is going to square his round 6 review remark about Carlsen:

<He’s provoked a lot of questions during Biel. You can explain it all away by saying he’s simply “not in form” at the tournament, but what if that “not in form” hides a systematic crisis? You might say there are good grounds for the latter.>

With the +3 result so far. It seems to me he was down on Carlsen a bit too much.

Jul-30-12  kappertjes: <Bobby Fiske> Now this is the second time we post on the same article/topic at the same time. Great minds...
Jul-30-12  Bobby Fiske: He-he. Yes, funny! (Difficult to go to bed after kibitzing thrilling games like this).
Jul-30-12
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  perfidious: Tkachiev appears to have taken a degree in the school of sensationalistic journalism.

Hype, hype and still more hype. Pity some salient points get lost amidst the shrieking, because Tkachiev is a most knowledgeable and experienced player.

Jul-30-12  Everett: Jul-30-12   < Kanatahodets:<As I've said before - I'm speechless. >>

I mean no ill will when I say, you may not have intended it, but this is quite funny. It's like something Yogi Berra might say.

Jul-30-12  Eyal: <kappertjes: <rogge> Could be me but that link leads to an not yet existing/empty MC page.>

Here's a link to these stats of performance profiles that should work: Magnus Carlsen.

Btw, <frogbert>'s data are from 2011. In 2012 the sample is still rather small, but tendencies so far, with regard to Carlsen and Kramnik at least, are rather similar. Kramnik's TPR against +2750s is <2776> (+2 -3 =10 vs. average 2799 opposition), and against sub-2700s it's <2989> (+3 =1 vs. average 2651). Carlsen's TPR against +2750s, including his two games with Nakamura in Biel, is <2844> (+4 -1 =11 vs. average 2778). [He played only two games against sub-2700s, Van Wely & Giri (who officially is still 2696), and drew both.]

<Strangely enough there has been no report from GM Vlad Tkachievs on Magnus 2 consecutive wins after round 6.>

Not really strange, since the game with Bologan wasn't part of a whole round that was played the same day and round 7 has just finished... But it would certainly be interesting to see what he writes in the report on round 7.

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