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| sitzkrieg: <Open defence> Did you mean Tal? I believe he said that Bobby briefed Najdorf on the Najdorf when they were competing for first place in the last round of a tournament ( i believe in Switzerland). Bobby promised to draw his last game since he didnt object to finishing tied first will Tal whom " had played well". Fischer drew indeed but Tal deviated, didnt play bg5 but e2 , won and ended up first. Haeron, i think you are right, i believe the Najdorf was played by Opocensky. Tothedeath can you link that source of yours? I heard Najdorf did something but i didnt hear this version before and would like to see it. |
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Jan-04-07
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| Archives: <...Bobby promised to draw his last game since he didnt object to finishing tied first will Tal ...> That doesn't sound like Fischer! Is that true? |
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| Jan-04-07 |
| sitzkrieg: <archives> Tal vs Najdorf, 1961 Once again i was correct and my fenomenal memory didnt betray me! |
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| Jan-04-07 |
| sitzkrieg: only a bit. It wasnt Swiss. |
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Jan-06-07
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| vonKrolock: There's a story about Najdorf and Guimard: Arriving from Poland, Najdorf needed a job, and Guimard promptly volunteer to help him stablish in the insurance branch (where he acted as representative -i mean seller- for an important firma; after some time, Guimard suffered a car accident, and was interned in an hospital for a while - when he recovered, he realized that, in the emergency state off affairs, his best costumers became Najdorf's clients... The situation became definitive (I dont' know exactly what happened - sometimes in the trade's affairs there're many versions of one fact too...) - but Guimard promised "Never again speak to Najdorf", witnesses told that, even in the late seventies he was still keeping his word (although they exchanged eventual chats, but Najdorf talked, and Guimard answered just with "si", "no" , or some head swinging...) |
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Jan-06-07
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| Caissanist: Thanks <vonKrolock>, that was very interesting. I had previously heard about Najdorf being Guimard's "partner", and that they both got quite wealthy, but not the circumstances. Would you have any idea when the car accident happened? Insurance (or at least life insurance) seems to have been one of the original MLM businesses, with the same mix of "friendship" and scheming/backstabbing that we see today with the Amway crowd. |
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Jan-09-07
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| vonKrolock: Thank You for the attention, <Caissanist>: No, I dont' know more about that episode, i just remember that my (indirect) source referred to a 'long' staying in the hospital...
Still on Najdorf, grāces to Mr. E. Winter's 'Chess Notes', i realize that his informal performances in 'blitz', that impressed me so much, were noted and commented in BCM already in 1944 http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... number 4802 |
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Aug-12-07
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| Fusilli: <vonKrolock> <Caissanist> Hmmm... that account of the relationship between Najdorf and Guimard collides with what Hebert Perez Garcia, a chess journalist, reports on this website: http://www.chessville.com/Espanol/N.... (If you read Spanish, scroll down to "Recuerdos de Groninga.") In that article, Perez Garcia mentions that in 1996 an Exhibition tournament gathered the seven survivors from the Groningen tournament played 50 years earlier: Najdorf, Guimard, Szabo, Yanovsky, Christoffel, Smyslov and Denker (at the time PG writes, 2004, the first five had passed.) He says that Najdorf and Guimard were great friends and they had plenty of anecdotes to share. One goes like this: they were playing a tournament somewhere and Najdorf knew he (Najdorf) would be tempted to gamble a lot of money at the Casino, so he gave Guimard all his "reserve" money and told him to take it with him to his hotel room and not give it to him even if he begged for it. That night, Guimard was already asleep when Najdorf woke him up banging on his room door. Then Najdorf begged for his money and the situation became heated, but Guimard refused to give him the money. The morning after, the story goes, Najdorf was the most thankful man in the world. |
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Aug-13-07
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| vonKrolock: <Fusilli> Sadly, Arnold Denker passed away later too... As I stated above, my indirect source's memories arrived until the late seventies, and Perez Garcia's accounts arrive to middle nineties, right!? - As it would also be very sad to imagine that both argentinian chess heroes would not settle their differences ,it's really very pleasant to know about their belated reconciliation |
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Aug-13-07
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| Fusilli: <vonKrolock> I suspect Najdorf and Guimard must have quarreled a number of times, but it seems that they worked it out. BTW, Carlos Enrique Guimard doesn't have a date of death on his page, but he did pass away. So, good ol' Vasily Smyslov is the only survivor from Groningen 1956. |
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Sep-03-07
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| brankat: You mean ...1946. |
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Dec-14-07
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| capatal: "Look at me, I'm laughing, I'm making pleasantries, and I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight," proclaimed Argentinean grandmaster Miguel Najdorf (1910-1997)... after losing a game. - The World of Chess
Anthony Saidy and Norman Lessing |
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| Dec-26-07 |
| D4n: The Sicillian Najdorf (1. e4 c5 2. f3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. xd4 f6 5. c3 a6) is a strong opening... |
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| Feb-03-08 |
| cunaki: Another ex hero of mine down the drain. If true that Fischer was willing to play a GM draw when thats exactly what he was accusing the Russians of doing puts a rather different coloration on things doesnt it? So these chessplayers were all cheaters crooks shysters liars bums who exactly fit the mold of casino rats not great sportsmen or intellects. Just clever pawn pushers?
So Fischer knew that international chess was fixed as he was in on the game himself. But is the story true about him throwing a game??? Hard to believe. So back to the original Olympic ideal where competitors may not be paid for their efforts except for a laurel wreath. I knew a hustler in university who would play chess ping pong tennis cards whatnot for money only. We all held him in contempt and never played him. |
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| Mar-12-08 |
| Ruy Lopez: Did anyone else know that Bobby Fischer died recently? |
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| Mar-12-08 |
| MaxxLange: we heard |
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| Mar-12-08 |
| drnooo: Talk about neglect: hard to fathom how a player of the fantastic quality of this guy has only garnered seven pages. 65 per cent wins, that's mighty fine stuff. Maybe the most underrated player at this site by definition. |
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Mar-24-08
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| brankat: <drnooo> <Talk about neglect: hard to fathom how a player of the fantastic quality of this guy has only garnered seven pages..> How is this for neglect? I've compiled a list of players going back more than 200 years. Each one of them a great master of the game in his own way. In terms of results, influence, contribution, style, etc. Players, innovators, teachers. Yet, each with 7, or (mostly), less pages of kibitzing here. I'm sure there is a number of others I have not thought of. I've listed them in a chronological order:
F.A.Philidor..............7 pages
A.L.H.L.Deschapelles......1
P.C.F. de Saint Amant.....1
L.C.M.de la Bourdonnais...2
A.Anderssen...............4
L.Paulsen.................3
E.H.Bird..................6
A.Burn...2
J.Blackburne..............5
J.Zukertort...............6
J.Mieses..................2
M.Chigorin................7
Dr.S.Tarrasch.............7
F.J.Marshall..............6
R.Spielmann ... ..........5
Dr.Ossip Bernstein........1
Dr.M.Vidmar...............2
R.Reti...6
S.Flohr...................4
A.Lilienthal..............4
I.Szabo...................2
R.Fine...7
G.Stahlberg...............3 A.Kotov...................3
I.Boleslavsky.............3
I.Bondarevsky.............1
Y.Averbakh................2
S.Gligoric................5
M.Taimanov................7
W.Uhlmann.................3
O.Panno...................3
L.Polugaevsky ............2
B.Ivkov...................1
Portisch..................3
V.Hort...2
Dr.R.Huebner..............4
L.Ljubojevic..............3
Z.Ribli...................1
R.Vaganian................3
J.Timman..................6
A.Beliavsky...............3
Of course, the most frequented pages are those of the current top masters, which is understandable. And of a few top-notch old timers, mostly those whose lives and/or careers have been marked either by some totally stunning accomplishment/characteristic, or marred by a controversy. |
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Apr-15-08
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| brankat: "Miguel El Grande's" birthday! |
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| Apr-15-08 |
| gus inn: Happy birthday Don Miguel !
FYI : when Najdorf sat the record in blindsimul , it was a signal to family and relatives in Poland and Europe - telling that he was still alive."Please contact me when /if some of you are still alive". After the blindsimul he was found sleeeping an exhausted in a public cinema.After the audience had left the building. |
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| Apr-15-08 |
| Augalv: <it was a signal to family and relatives in Poland and Europe - telling that he was still alive."Please contact me when /if some of you are still alive".> Yes, he was sending signals to his family in back Poland but unfortunately most of them died in concentration camps. |
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| Apr-15-08 |
| Augalv: Readers may be interested to know that I myself have attained some measure of success in blindfold play, having amassed a lifetime winning percentage of .641 in Pin the Tail on the Donkey." Miguel Najdorf.
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Jul-11-08
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| whiteshark: <I won't play with you anymore. You have insulted my friend.> -- Miguel Najdorf (to an opponent who had cursed himself for a blunder) QotD on gmchess.com |
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Jul-26-08
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| kamalakanta: It is said about Najdorf that once, in a tournament where both he and Tal were playing, Tal sacrificed his Queen against someone else, and Najdorf became so excited and happy, he came over and gave Tal a kiss on the cheek! He was like a little child in that way! |
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Sep-19-08
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| whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" I do not believe the Soviet players are more talented than the others; they are just more inclined to consider chess work than play. " -- Najdorf |
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