| Baden-Baden (1870) |
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Baden-Baden, Grand Duchy of Baden, Germany; 18 July 1870—4 August 1870
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Score Place/Prizes
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1 Anderssen •• 11 00 1½ 11 1½ 10 10 11 ++ 13 1st 3000 fr
2 Steinitz 00 •• 11 0½ 11 11 11 ½1 ½0 11 12½ 2nd 600 fr
3 Neumann 11 00 •• 1½ 01 01 11 0½ 11 ++ 12 3rd-4th 200 fr
4 Blackburne 0½ 1½ 0½ •• 10 11 1½ ½½ 11 ++ 12 3rd-4th 200 fr
5 Paulsen 00 00 10 01 •• 10 1½ 1½ ½1 ++ 9½
6 De Vere 0½ 00 10 00 01 •• 01 ++ 01 ++ 8½
7 Winawer 01 00 00 0½ 0½ 10 •• 1½ 11 ++ 8½
8 Rosenthal 01 ½0 1½ ½½ 0½ -- 0½ •• -- ++ 7
9 Minckwitz 00 ½1 00 00 ½- 10 00 ++ •• 11 7
10 Stern -- 00 -- -- -- -- -- -- 00 •• 0
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Unplayed games: + for a win, = for a draw, - for a loss.
Format: Round-robin, draws being scored as a half-game to each.
Introduction
The games were hard fought in Baden-Baden 1870. Draws were rare. Anderssen led most of the tournament with uncompromising chess. Steinitz had a disastrous start and a great finish. Rosenthal wanted to score at least a draw against the strongest players and called it a dueling scar or ‘Schmitzel'. But he forfeited his four games against De Vere and Minckwitz.(1) Stern played only four games, of which two were lost on time.
Notes
The second round game between Paulsen vs De Vere, 1870 was nullified and replayed.
Minckwitz / Neumann / Paulsen vs Blackburne / Steinitz / De Vere, 1870 was played as a consultation game at the event.
Missing Games
De Vere-Anderssen 0-1
Minckwitz-Anderssen 0-1
Blackburne-Winawer 1-0.
Sources
(1) http://www.endgame.nl/bad1870.htm
(2) https://zanchess.wordpress.com/2015...
(3) http://www.chessarch.com/excavation...
Credit
Original collection: Game Collection: Baden-Baden 1870, by User: suenteus po 147.
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| Result | Moves |
Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. S Rosenthal vs Anderssen |
  | 0-1 | 33 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C44 King's Pawn Game |
| 2. G Neumann vs Paulsen |
| 0-1 | 53 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | A85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3 |
| 3. De Vere vs Winawer |
| 0-1 | 22 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense |
| 4. Steinitz vs Blackburne |
| 0-1 | 31 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C30 King's Gambit Declined |
| 5. J Minckwitz vs A Stern |
| 1-0 | 48 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C66 Ruy Lopez |
| 6. Winawer vs De Vere |
| 0-1 | 16 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C15 French, Winawer |
| 7. Anderssen vs S Rosenthal |
| 0-1 | 34 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C51 Evans Gambit |
| 8. Paulsen vs G Neumann |
| 0-1 | 43 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C60 Ruy Lopez |
| 9. Blackburne vs Steinitz |
| ½-½ | 30 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C51 Evans Gambit |
| 10. A Stern vs J Minckwitz |
| 0-1 | 19 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C80 Ruy Lopez, Open |
| 11. Winawer vs S Rosenthal |
| 1-0 | 27 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C51 Evans Gambit |
| 12. Paulsen vs De Vere |
| 1-0 | 28 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C01 French, Exchange |
| 13. G Neumann vs Blackburne |
| 1-0 | 31 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | D35 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 14. Paulsen vs De Vere |
| | 48 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C01 French, Exchange |
| 15. A Stern vs Steinitz |
| 0-1 | 37 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C60 Ruy Lopez |
| 16. Anderssen vs J Minckwitz |
| 1-0 | 46 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C51 Evans Gambit |
| 17. Blackburne vs G Neumann |
| ½-½ | 51 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C60 Ruy Lopez |
| 18. S Rosenthal vs Winawer |
| ½-½ | 37 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C80 Ruy Lopez, Open |
| 19. De Vere vs Paulsen |
| 1-0 | 21 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C77 Ruy Lopez |
| 20. Steinitz vs A Stern |
| 1-0 | 26 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | B45 Sicilian, Taimanov |
| 21. Blackburne vs De Vere |
| 1-0 | 40 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | A07 King's Indian Attack |
| 22. Paulsen vs S Rosenthal |
| 1-0 | 24 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense |
| 23. J Minckwitz vs Winawer |
| 0-1 | 45 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | E48 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd3 d5 |
| 24. Anderssen vs Steinitz |
| 1-0 | 37 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C51 Evans Gambit |
| 25. Steinitz vs Anderssen |
| 0-1 | 45 | 1870 | Baden-Baden | C25 Vienna |
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| Jan-17-16 | | thomastonk: <Tabanus: "Introduction written by User: tt"> I've made <my> tournament some time ago, and that's the end of the story. The same applies to biographies. But I think you knew that. <z>: you wrote to <Tab> that some of the best information is in the kibitzing, and of course that's correct. But my regret meant something different, and I will try to explain it with more words. This tournament is still in a bad state, in particular the introduction. In my opinion the above 4 pages of kibitzing reduce the likelihood that another volunteer will write a better introduction and check the game scores. This opinion is independent of the quality of the kibitzing; it depends only on the experience, which also <Tab> mentioned: it is more fun to begin from scratch. |
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Jan-18-16
 | | Tabanus: <thomastonk> That's ok. I'll end my stories here too then. |
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| May-21-17 | | zanzibar: Tartajubow has recently added a post about the tournament: http://tartajubow.blogspot.com/2017... . |
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| Dec-15-17 | | JimNorCal: <thomastonk> No kibitzing in a year? Hope all is well, old comrade. |
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Dec-15-17
 | | perfidious: <JimNorCal: <thomastonk> No kibitzing in a year? Hope all is well, old comrade.> Here's hopin'. |
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Jan-19-18
 | | offramp: This tournament began on 18th July 1870.
A possible subject of conversation among the players on that first day might have been that fact that on 16th July 1870, the French parliament had voted to declare war on the German Kingdom of Prussia. On the 19th July 1870 the war began.
It is over now, though. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: Yeah, the war was desastrous for France. The usual. Now they try it the sneaky way with the EUSSR. Which will -you guessed it- also hopelessly fail. |
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Jan-19-18
 | | keypusher: <WorstPlayerEver: Yeah, the war was desastrous for France. The usual. Now they try it the sneaky way with the EUSSR. Which will -you guessed it- also hopelessly fail.> I remember seeing French impressionist paintings from the 1870s and thinking people looked pretty happy. In 1940 France was defeated in six weeks and got through the war with very little damage, especially compared to Germany. In 1914-1918 France fought for four years, won the war and lost millions of young men. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: <keypusher>
Impressionists? You mean guys who took pictures and 'translated' them into paintings? |
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| Jan-19-18 | | Magpye: I never thought of Norman Rockwell as an Impressionist. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: Well, I obviously was thinking about Monet. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | Magpye: Did you know that in addition to being a fine painter, his contemporary Manet, invented Mannaize? And the sandwich world has benefitted ever since. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | Nerwal: <In 1940 France was defeated in six weeks and got through the war with very little damage,> After the defeat 1,8 million soliders were held prisoners in Germany and most of them were not released til the end of the war. Overall more french people were killed than Americans during this war. Vichy regime paid Germany 400 millions francs a day as compensation. In 1944 Allies heavily bombed the cities of France, mainly the western ones like Le Havre which was entirely destroyed, causing lots of material destruction. There were ration stamps in France til the end of 1949. |
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Jan-19-18
| | keypusher: < Nerwal: <In 1940 France was defeated in six weeks and got through the war with very little damage,>
After the defeat 1,8 million soliders were held prisoners in Germany and most of them were not released til the end of the war. Overall more french people were killed than Americans during this war. Vichy regime paid Germany 400 millions francs a day as compensation. In 1944 Allies heavily bombed the cities of France, mainly the western ones like Le Havre which was entirely destroyed, causing lots of material destruction. There were ration stamps in France til the end of 1949.> I should not have said <very little damage> though I think <comparatively little damage> would have been fair, whether the comparison is to France in the First War or Germany in either. Below is a table of deaths (military and total) in WWII. France had 567,600 compared to 6,600,000-8,800,000 for Germany. I'm not going to look up tons of bombs dropped on Germany versus France, but the disparity is vast. I'm sure there were a lot more buildings standing in France in May 1945 than there were in Germany. The UK had rationing into the 1950s, I believe. https://www.nationalww2museum.org/s... Compared to the European countries, the United States got off lightly in both wars. Both England and France lost far fewer people in the Second War than the First. The Robert Schumann center gives total deaths for France in WWI as 1.7 million (compared to 2.5 million for Germany, about 1 million for Great Britain (colonies excluded) and 117,000 for the USA). In WW2 the UK suffered about 450,000 deaths and the USA about 420,000. http://www.centre-robert-schuman.or... The methodology for the two sites must differ a lot, since Schumann gives 100,000 British civilian deaths in WW1 and the other site gives about 67,000 in WW2, though aerial bombardment of British civilians in WW1 was relatively insignificant and World War II saw the Blitz. |
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Jan-19-18
 | | MissScarlett: <Schumann gives 100,000 British civilian deaths in WW1 and the other site gives about 67,000 in WW2, though aerial bombardment of British civilians in WW1 was relatively insignificant and World War II saw the Blitz.> They must also be counting deaths at sea. The WW1 U-Boat campaign against merchant shipping was pretty extensive, with upward of 15,000 civilian casualties. But, yes, the 100,000 figure is too high for deaths connected with enemy action. |
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| Jan-19-18 | | Nerwal: <I should not have said <very little damage> though I think <comparatively little damage> would have been fair, whether the comparison is to France in the First War or Germany in either.> Of course France didn't get wiped off like Germany, neither suffered massive civilian losses similar to China or USSR, but the implied idea that France quickly folded then enjoyed a peaceful and comfortable life til the end of war had to be dispelled. Some destructions were avoided only because some people started to use common sense again, like when Von Choltitz in view of unavoidable defeat prefered to bargain the non-destruction of Paris rather than follow the instructions he was given. |
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Mar-26-18
| | offramp: <offramp: This tournament began on 18th July 1870...On the 19th July 1870 the war began.> IN A.D. 1870
WAR WAS BEGINNING. |
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| Aug-23-20 | | sudoplatov: The games among the top players (Anderssen, Steinitz, Winawer, etc.) seem a bit more modern than one might expect. |
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| May-30-21 | | Nosnibor: Why does it state on Google that Stern scored 1.5/4 at Baden-Baden? Yet all 4 games shown above resulted in a loss. Was this due to leaving two of these games partly unfinished due to war duties ? According to a table I have seen he scored a win against Minckwitz and a draw against Steinitz. I assume the clocks had something to do with this and maybe Stern had never encountered them before. |
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| Jun-27-21 | | Stolzenberg: <Nosnibor> 20 year old Stern lost all 4 games, 2 of them (both with white) by exceeding the time limit. However, despite of having officially won, both opponents agreed to continue playing. Stern won vs Minckwitz and played a draw vs Steinitz. After round 4 he went to the bavarian army because of the war of 1870/1871. |
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| Jul-04-21 | | Stolzenberg: The <time limit> was 20 moves within 1 hour, another 20 moves within the next hour and so on. |
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| Jul-23-21 | | Stolzenberg: de Vere (8.5 / 18 with +8 =1 -9) got 4 points without having played for (2 vs Stern and 2 vs Rosenthal).
Paulsen 9.5 / 18 with +8 =3 -7) got 3 points without having played for (2 vs Stern and 1 vs Minckwitz).
Steinitz was the only player who played 18 games. **** **** ****
<Opening-summary>: Spanish Game: 19 times
Evans Gambit (C51+C52): 12 times
French Defense: 7 times
Vienna Gambit: 5 times
Dutch Defense, Sicilian Defense, King's Gambit and Ponziani Opening (C44): 4 times each Scotch Game (C45) and Queen's Gambit Declined: 2 times each Philidor Defense (C41), Russian Game (C42), Three Knights Opening (C46), Four Knights Game (C48) and Nimzo-Indian Defense: 1 time each |
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Jul-23-21
 | | alexmagnus: <The <time limit> was 20 moves within 1 hour, another 20 moves within the next hour and so on.> So they reset the clock every 20 moves? How was this handled? |
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| Jul-23-21 | | Z truth 000000101: <alexmagnus> I doubt there's any info on this in the literature, so one is left to wonder. I welcome other commentary. It could be the clocks were set to 2 hours and an informal check of time was done after 1 hour to see if the 20 move required were made. <Baden-Baden (1870)> has been commented as being important for its adoption of clocks: Paulsen vs Steinitz, 1870 (kibitz #7) I'm sure a few kinks were still being ironed out in implementation. FWIW- I believe Kolisch drew up the tournament rules (see <Steinitz in London> p186) . |
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| Aug-10-21 | | Stolzenberg: <alexmagnus> and <Z truth 000000101>: <time limit>: Some more info about historical chess clocks can be found at http://www.chessmaniac.com/the-ches... and about the time limit one may have a look at A Stern vs J Minckwitz, 1870 comment Aug-01-15 zanzibar, A Stern vs Steinitz, 1870 comment Jan-05-16 Tabanus and Paulsen vs De Vere, 1870 comment Jul-04-21 Stolzenberg. |
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