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May-31-18
 | | takchess: http://tartajubow.blogspot.com/2018... |
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May-31-18 | | sudoplatov: We do have an estimate of how well Fine would have done in the USSR. Leningrad 1937 won by Fine.
Moscow 1937 won by Fine.
Neither in the database. |
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May-31-18 | | Retireborn: Fine did play in Moscow in 1946 (as part of the US team) and his observations of Botvinnik etc then may have played a part in his 1948 decision, perhaps. |
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Jun-01-18 | | Granny O Doul: That footage linked by Jonathan Sarfati above is from "the Great Chess Movie", which is watchable on youtube and without the subtitles, at least at this moment. |
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Jul-13-18
 | | Sally Simpson: Horowitz was giving a simultaneous display in Portland. Ruben Fine adopted a disguise and took a board. (Chess Review 1942) https://www.redhotpawn.com/imgu/blo... |
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Jul-13-18 | | JimNorCal: Sally, that is a cool photo! I'd never heard of this stunt before, what a great joke. |
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Jul-13-18
 | | HeMateMe: He looks like father guido sarducci. |
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Nov-15-18 | | anjumskhan: His plus scores against all greats is enough for him to earn my respect. |
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Jul-03-19 | | Chesgambit: Fine vs Alekhine 1963 |
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Jul-03-19 | | csmath: Alekhine died 1946 so unless he played as a ghost that 1963 game was impossible. |
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Jul-03-19
 | | beatgiant: He probably transposed 1936 to 1963. |
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Jul-04-19 | | csmath: Well, there is a 1963 Evans Gambit game where 20-year-old Bobby Fischer absolutely annihilated Reuben Fine and destroyed all the chess mystique associated with Fine. |
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Oct-11-19 | | Cibator: <csmath: Well, there is a 1963 Evans Gambit game where 20-year-old Bobby Fischer absolutely annihilated Reuben Fine and destroyed all the chess mystique associated with Fine.> And that, my friends, is more or less what Morphy would have done to Staunton a century earlier. The players' ages and circumstances in each case are near-exact parallels. |
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Nov-17-19
 | | Ron: I was in a used bookstore today, and I came across a book by Rueben Fine, _A History of Psychoanalysis_.
https://www.amazon.com/History-Psyc... I browsed through it, wondering, Reuben Fine gave up chess for this intellectual garbage? |
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Nov-17-19
 | | HeMateMe: I'm just happy there are still used bookstores <somewhere> in the USA. We no longer have them in NYC except for Goodwill stores, and the books there are mostly garbage. |
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Nov-29-19
 | | Ron: I wonder if Reuben Fine had any psychoanalytic patients who were chess enthusiasts. I think it would be pretty cool if Reuben Fine discussed chess with his patients. |
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Mar-18-20 | | Parachessus: I forget who said it, but someone said that Fine's leaving chess was a loss for chess and a draw at best for psychoanalysis. |
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Jun-13-20
 | | OhioChessFan: I've been laughing over the redhotpawn pic for 2 minutes now.... |
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Jun-15-20 | | Caissanist: I don't know if anyone took him up on the offer, but there was a blurb in the 1975 <Chess Life and Review> where Fine wrote <‘It would please me if you mentioned that I direct a low-cost mental health clinic, known as the Center for Creative Living, located at 9 East 89th Street, New York, NY 10028, (212) 369-3330, which has a special section for the therapy of the creative individual. Any chessplayer in need of help will receive my personal attention.’>. |
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Jun-15-20 | | Caissanist: Per Edward Winter, the original source for the quote about Fine's career being a loss for chess and at best a draw for psychoanalysis seems to have been Gilbert Cant, a longtime writer for <Time>: https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... . |
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Jun-15-20
 | | harrylime: he'd have a better chance of becoming WORLD CHESS champion now. Along with Keres and Reshevski |
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Jun-16-20
 | | Troller: <harrylime: he'd have a better chance of becoming WORLD CHESS champion now. Along with Keres and Reshevski>
Doubt it. Being dead is seldom an advantage when fighting for the crown. |
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Oct-10-20
 | | FSR: Peter Heine Nielsen and Jan Gustafsson rank Fine the 32nd greatest player of all time, ahead of the likes of Tarrasch, Ivanchuk, Pillsbury and Chigorin. https://chess24.com/en/learn/advanc... |
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Apr-20-23 | | Synchsynch: Oct-11-19 Cibator: <csmath: Well, there is a 1963 Evans Gambit game where 20-year-old Bobby Fischer absolutely annihilated Reuben Fine and destroyed all the chess mystique associated with Fine.>
And that, my friends, is more or less what Morphy would have done to Staunton a century earlier. The players' ages and circumstances in each case are near-exact parallels.
Bearing in mind that Reuben Fine had retired for years too. He psychologically chose an opening in which he would have almost no chance at all, the compromised defence to Capt Evan's Gambit i believe, partly in order to showcase, and to assess, Fischer's attacking style. And nobody could blame him for losing from that opening. He didn't play seriously, he knew he couldn't. So no myths ended there, Fine was a great player for his time, a top 5. Fischer's games online Vs Nigel Short would be more interesting to find! |
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Apr-20-23 | | Petrosianic: <Synchsynch>: <And that, my friends, is more or less what Morphy would have done to Staunton a century earlier.> That's what he DID do a century earlier. Morphy and Staunton played two offhand games. Morphy won them both, but Staunton's legacy wasn't destroyed by an offhand game any more than Fine's was. Fine actually won a game from Fischer in that series. Fischer wasn't hurt by it either. |
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