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Apr-27-16 | | CowChewCud: Giri's chess understanding is neither superior, nor inferior. It's equal. Giri is a very level-headed player. |
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Apr-27-16
 | | PawnSac: < KnightVBishop: do you guys think Giri chess understanding is superior to Magnus ; but Magnus is the better player > Magnus is the superior player because he more consistantly plays better moves. He makes better moves because he makes better choices during game play. If he consistently makes better choices we must conclude that his understanding of the game is more correct than Giri's, hence Magnus' chess understanding is superior to Giri's because his play is superior. your question and comment seem to be in disagreement. |
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Apr-28-16 | | activechess55: Congrats to MC for winning the chess duel over the board ! Congrats to VK too for winning the verbal duel off the board ! |
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Apr-28-16 | | Sokrates: <CowChewCud: ... Of course he did - because he memorized all the lines at home. This game was all computer analysis from start to finish.> There you go, world champion Carlsen: you're nothing but an average guy with a good memory and a computer programme. Anyone armed with those two "weapons" could win over Kramnik. It's a simple as that. |
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Apr-28-16 | | Overgod: <PawnSac: < KnightVBishop: do you guys think Giri chess understanding is superior to Magnus ; but Magnus is the better player >
Magnus is the superior player because he more consistantly plays better moves. He makes better moves because he makes better choices during game play. If he consistently makes better choices we must conclude that his understanding of the game is more correct than Giri's, hence Magnus' chess understanding is superior to Giri's because his play is superior. your question and comment seem to be in disagreement.> I like your logic. |
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Apr-28-16 | | kellmano: I think it's reasonable to distinguish between understanding and practical playing strength. |
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Apr-28-16 | | Jambow: Well ok how about Magnus Carlsen has better understanding of playing the best practical moves? I mean if results against elite players isn't good enough then what? He is close to on par with any of the top players in brute tactical play, substantially superior in quite positions requiring deep understanding and nuanced play. He then has the practical sense to reach those positions that he is superior to everyone else. Or he is the strongest player of his generation in summary? Is that hard to recognize? Is it even harder to admit? Look if being the highest rated player in all categories, the highest elo ever and world champion isn't enough what is? Sighhh |
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Apr-28-16 | | WorstPlayerEver: We all could be theory experts but accuracy is what makes the one player stronger than the other.
Scarnel shows again he is the most accurate chess player atm. |
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Apr-28-16 | | Rolfo: <..Or he is the strongest player of his generation in summary? Is that hard to recognize? Is it even harder to admit? Look if being the highest rated player in all categories, the highest elo ever and world champion isn't enough what is? Sighhh> That's obviously not enough ... |
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Apr-28-16 | | N0B0DY: <Rolfo: <..Or he is the strongest player of his generation in summary? Is that hard to recognize? Is it even harder to admit? Look if being the highest rated player in all categories, the highest elo ever and world champion isn't enough what is? Sighhh>
That's obviously not enough ...>
You obviously forgot Stan Vaughan |
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Apr-28-16 | | Absentee: Does it say anywhere HOW Vaughn's fantabulous rating was computed? His site is tactfully silent on the matter. |
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Apr-28-16
 | | alexmagnus: Topalov has quite a good showing here. Where was his form during the Candidates?! I mean, <before> the Candidates he played well too. It looks like it was something psychological rather than - as many thought - age catching up with VT. The "ppsychological" explanation is also supported by the fact he finished last in the <previous> Candidates too. |
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Apr-28-16
 | | keypusher: <alexmagnus> Topalov is certainly playing better than he did in the Candidates, but...he's gotten six draws and a win against Grandelius here. It's possible that he has psychological issues <AND> age is catching up with him. |
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Apr-28-16 | | jphamlore: One doesn't see an opening like 1. ♘f3 e6 2. g3 b5 3. e3 a6 every day at this level at classical time controls. |
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Apr-28-16 | | posoo: Dats RITE kepush! Aroons finally pulled himself out of IGNOMUNY. Here are da UPDATED REAL STANDINGS under da PSS Mugnus 6
Pentela 5
Girus – a surprising 4!
Eljunov – 4 but who CARS
Krumnok - 3
Tupluv – 2
Aroons – 2
MV Lagroov – 2
Grundolus – 4 (BUT SUBJECT TO NO-WIN RELEGATION)
Li Chao – 1 (WINNER OF EMBARUSMENT TROPHY) |
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Apr-28-16 | | activechess55: One of the main purposes of putting forth one's analysis on cg.com is to show knowledge and make other patzers admire us. However, there is another very important purpose for putting forth one's analysis i.e. to show one's ignorance and make other patzers laugh. |
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Apr-28-16 | | KnightVBishop: So lets say both Magnus and Levon win tomorrow
then Levon wins the touranemnt because higher SB? |
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Apr-28-16 | | WorstPlayerEver: By the time Magnus got his Bishoppe from c8 it was a sacrifice. |
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Apr-28-16 | | Absentee: <KnightVBishop: So lets say both Magnus and Levon win tomorrow then Levon wins the touranemnt because higher SB?> Yes. Eljanov has a lower (tournament) score than Harikrishna, so Aronian would keep the lead in S-B and win the event. But tomorrow I'll be more interested in Topalov-Kramnik... |
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Apr-28-16 | | KnightVBishop: there is no blitz playoff? |
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Apr-28-16 | | diceman: In the world of 3 letter results:
Lev beats Mag. |
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Apr-28-16
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <KnightVBishop: So lets say both Magnus and Levon win tomorrow then Levon wins the tournament because higher SB?> No, in the case of a tie for first place, there will be a playoff. Here are the regulations: 8. In case of shared first place, there will be a blitz play-off to decide the winner.
If two players share first place, there will be a 2 game match with the same time control as in the blitz tournament: 3 min + 2 sec increment for each move. If this match ends in a tie, there will be an Armageddon game where white has 4 min and black has 3 min with draw odds.
If more than two players share first place, there will be a double round robin with the same tiebreak rules as the opening blitz tournament.
The remaining players in this will share their money prizes. 9. Tiebreak for the main tournament:
A: Sonnenborn Berger points
B: Most wins
C: Most wins with black
D: Drawing of lots.
Source: http://norwaychess.no/en/reglement/ |
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Apr-28-16 | | Absentee: <KnightVBishop: there is no blitz playoff?> Ah yes, you're right, there's a playoff for 1st place. My bad. |
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Apr-28-16 | | KnightVBishop: <Pellgroso Patzer>
then why does the Tiebreak say Sonneborn Berger points, Most wins, most wins with black, drawing of lots? |
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Apr-28-16
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <KnightVBishop:>
The regulations are poorly-written, but my understanding is that the formulae in section 9 are only used to determine tie-breaks further down the placements; and the playoff system in section 8 is used to decide first place in the event of a tie at the top. |
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