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Jun-21-13
 | | plang: <pathfinder: plang I appreciate your comment very much but lets not forget that Carlsen is rated 2860 and Houdini is about 2910 I'd say> ...and what is interesting is that I don't consider Openings to be the main strength of Carlsen or Houdini. |
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Jun-21-13
 | | kingscrusher: Have we all underestmated Gelfand?! I am sure I could remember Kasparov denouncing the Anand vs Gelfand match as if they were not good enough to play a World championship match. At this point it seems Kasparov was wrong. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | fgh: Gelfand is indeed having a great tournament, but I'm annoyed by the hypocrisy of his defenders. When he does badly in a "standard" tournament, we are told that "Gelfand rises for the big occasions." On the other hand, when he has a good performance (like in the Alekhine Memorial or here), his supporters say "Gelfand has shown that he was a worthy challenger." Please be consistent. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | csmath: <<pathfinder: plang I appreciate your comment very much but lets not forget that Carlsen is rated 2860 and Houdini is about 2910 I'd say>> Houdini 3 x64 engine rating is 3057. In human ELO that would be about 3200 in my view. In other words Houdini is way stronger than Carlsen. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | parmetd: I certainly never underestimated Gelfand - so speak for yourself. oh, Russian got his first win... in round 7... against another Russian... |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Vincenze: So Andreikin finally gives a first Russian win. Not impressive thus far. Gelfand played a nice game against Naka. But I wondered if Naka played a more experimental, opportunity-seeking game. If he did it didn't work. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Mr. Bojangles: <Jun-20-13
brankat: His achievements have been strictly within the chess arena. Outside of it Kasparov only managed to make a fool of himself.
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So true. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Pawnage: kingscrusher: Modus pwnens, modus trollens. |
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Jun-21-13
| | plang: <Naka. But I wondered if Naka played a more experimental, opportunity-seeking game. > Isn't that pretty much his style?
Sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't |
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| Jun-21-13 | | two to the power six: does anyone even remember Gelfand being the losing semi-finalist in the world championship in 1998 (lost to Anand)? I remember someone describing him as a tiger then.... |
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| Jun-21-13 | | KnightVBishop: i think naka always plays risky games, cause thats just his style, it works sometimes, it doens't... it would be really hard for him if he started play like magnus, it wouldn't work out as well, different players, different styles |
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| Jun-21-13 | | The Rocket: <solskytz: >
The quote was a joke from a chess coach. it's a truism - true by definition. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Salty: Gelfand's recent play reminds me of Carlsen. Neither plays particularly flashy but both win games by building on slight advantages with solid play. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | anandrulez: <Salty> I get what you say , but not Carlsen maybe , Carlsen tries to win both sides . Gelfand is reserved classical player like Michael Adams - Kramnik - Leko , he doesnt want a win out of a drawn position , he tries to play pure Chess . |
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| Jun-21-13 | | anandrulez: There is one interesting thing about players like Kramnik Leko Gelfand Adams , they always play according to the position and not their opponent .Everyone listed probably chooses their opening per opponent , but they are actually not pushers . As black they tend to be happy with a draw . Svidler too can be added to this list . Anand and Nakamura Karjakin (yes) is actually in this class too but when in tourneys you can see him push for wins sometimes .... Topalov Ivanchuk Morozevich Carlsen are really fighters they just want to win at all cost even by trying to push hard for it . |
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| Jun-21-13 | | brankat: <KKDEREK> <So far great run from Andreikin..People were already mocking him as `Andrawkin`, but I think is his first super tournament..So, great hopes.> Very true. Andreikin is only 22 years old. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | geeker: I don't fault Andreikin for playing solidly. If he played aggressively and lost a few games, the very same people now mocking him as "Andrawkin" would be saying that he didn't belong in this kind of supertournament! :-) Isn't Karjakin playing on a bit long in a drawn ending (RN vs. R)? |
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| Jun-21-13 | | schweigzwang: Harike v. Cmilyte in the Women's Grand Prix today was KR+KRN and went 49 moves, just one short of the draw threshold ... but I guess Karjakin was convinced that Caruana knew the correct technique after several iterations of knight-pinning. Cmilyte never managed to get the white king to the side of the board. |
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| Jun-21-13 | | thetruth12: Gelfand - The Old Wizard strikes again |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Everett: <Mr. Bojangles: <Jun-20-13
brankat: His achievements have been strictly within the chess arena. Outside of it Kasparov only managed to make a fool of himself. >
So true.>
Really, what have all you muppets done in your life that goes beyond dominating a sport for 25 years and organizing alternative movements (successful or not) in a democratically-challenged country? Many here are great at throwing stones in glass houses. How 'bout sharing your superior life achievements and credentials, so we can have a fair discussion? |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Arcturar: Woot! Go Gelfand! What a boss! Though I'll point out that the dude already finished above the WCC on a few occassions (most recently at Alekhine Memorial, where he got shared first with Aronian). About Kramnik-Andreikin...not much to say except for "poor Vlad". :/ |
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| Jun-21-13 | | Eyal: If Nakamura manages to catch Gelfand he'll have a better tiebreak (first tiebreak is number of Blacks, on which they're equal; second is number of wins, on which Nakamura would be better). In the remaining rounds, Gelfand has White vs. Mamedyarov & Black vs. Kramnik; Nakamura has Black vs. Carlsen & White vs. Moro. |
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Jun-21-13
 | | perfidious: <geeker: I don't fault Andreikin for playing solidly. If he played aggressively and lost a few games, the very same people now mocking him as "Andrawkin" would be saying that he didn't belong in this kind of supertournament!> The way Radjabov and Ivanchuk, to name two top players, have taken it on the chin in numerous posts of late-that what you had in mind? If Nakamura actually had something like 2/7 to this point, the chorus would be on to drum his arse out of elite events. Same with Gelfand. The jealousy and stupidity march on...... |
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| Jun-21-13 | | KnightVBishop: I always find it somewhat disrespectful that when someone loses a game, they don't go to the post game conference i think Magnus is the only one that went to the post game conference, even though he lost, against caruana this tournament |
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| Jun-21-13 | | SatelliteDan: Why didn't Judith just become Womans World Chess Champion? |
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