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|Mar-01-13|| ||Maatalkko: <FTP> Thanks. Nothing like a crotchety old man for reminding me that I really shouldn't be spending my time here today.|
|Mar-01-13|| ||ChessEscudero: I think what happened speaks for our different desire in the tournament. As spectators, of course, we want to see quality games, regardless of who wins; As players like So and Eljanov, winning or securing a good finish in the tournament is all that matters (this coincides with Eljanov getting the money he might have badly needed this time, and Wesley breaking the 2700 after being stuck in 2650 for 3 years). If their 3-move draw made them achieve their goal, then it was rational. For the spectators who don't care who wins the tournament, it's disappointing. But a tournament is a tournament. If both of them were not in the top of the standings, it could have been different. It's all about objectives.|
|Mar-01-13|| ||ChessEscudero: <Wesley So: Dear Chess Community,|
This might not be the best site to post it, but I would like to take the opportunity to thank the real chess fans for following my games, and for the positive criticisms.
Thank you also to GM Susan Polgar and Paul Truong for their help in abundance, which I owe them so much.
And especially I would like to thank God Father, for letting me reach 2700 even once.
On to the next big thing!
WOW! Wesley's just kibitzed! Thank you for some enjoyable games Wesley. Keep up the good work and congratulations!
|Mar-02-13|| ||timbol: <Congratulations to Wesley So for both his victory and his promotion to pampered goldfish.>|
Wesley has mutated from a great barracuda to an <un>pampered goldfish. The only one of its kind.
|Mar-02-13|| ||FadeThePublic: Yeah Timbol no one has ever gone from 2600 to 2700......well maybe not someone named "3Move" lol|
|Mar-02-13|| ||timbol: At an average of 10 points to be earned per tournament, Wesley need only to be invited to 10 more tourneys to breach the 2800 mark. 10 more tourneys would take him to 2900. Then he rakes another 100 points to 3000...then to 3100...to 3200...3300...and 3335 to past Houdini's all time score.|
Other forces in the universe take notice and an interplanetary tournament will be arranged with the following participants:
2. Terminator and Alien
3. Wesley So assisted by seconds Houdini and Magnus Larsen.
|Mar-02-13|| ||timbol: pass..carlsen|
|Mar-02-13|| ||PhilFeeley: <The "rankings" of players with identical number of points in the crosstables here are random, and always have been:|
<chessgames.com: it would be great if the leaderboard was savvy to the particular tiebreak protocol used for the tournaments, but it's not. Keep in mind that the particulars of the tiebreak system varies from tournament to tournament, and often it is highly complex. Therefore it shows contestants with tied scores in essentially random order.> (M-Tel Masters (2008))>
This just isn't good enough. I have seen the tie-break system used in major tournaments well before the end, so there's no excuse for not knowing them. chess-results.com seems to get them right all the time. Why can't <CG.com>?
I'm only insisting because too often the final result table here gives the impression that the top player was the winner on tie-break, when that is often not the case.
|Mar-02-13|| ||goodevans: I'm sure Mr So, unlike many of the kibitzers here, was under no illusion that the draw somehow gave him "a share of first". I'm certain that he's smart enough to have known what the tie-break rules were and that the draw would place him second.|
What I wasn't aware of was that the draw was just enough to put him into the 2700+ club and I'm sure that was his real motivation for proposing it. I cannot fault him for that and congratulate him on that achievement, just as I congratulate Eljanov for being the tournament victor.
|Mar-02-13|| ||Eyal: <I'm sure Mr So, unlike many of the kibitzers here, was under no illusion that the draw somehow gave him "a share of first". I'm certain that he's smart enough to have known what the tie-break rules were and that the draw would place him second.>|
I'm certain that Mr So was also smart enough to know that the tie-break rules were only relevant for the distribution of the prize money, and that a draw would make him a joint winner of the event. [see http://www.reykjavikopen.com/a-quic..., or how it was reported on other sites - http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/e... ]
<PhilFeeley> I just wanted to make it clear that the "order" in which players that finished with the same number of points are listed in the crosstables of this site is completely random, and that people shouldn't read anything into it - it's not like they've calculated the tiebreaks wrong. If this thing really bothers you and you think that it's important cg.com will fix it, you should probably post about it
in their forum (User: chessgames.com), where you have much greater chances of being noticed than here.
|Mar-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: <Chess players aren't a circus act, or your paid whores.>|
Well, if it would raise prize money...let's not be hasty, here...
|Mar-02-13|| ||goodevans: <Eyal> Are you by any chance related to George Orwell?|
|Mar-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: Are we all pawns, controlled by the state?|
|Mar-02-13|| ||goodevans: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"|
|Mar-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: Was Pink Floyd's Roger Waters an Orwellian songwriter?|
|Mar-02-13|| ||Tiggler: <HeMateMe: Was Pink Floyd's Roger Waters an Orwellian songwriter?>|
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|Mar-03-13|| ||HeMateMe: The chocolate ration has been increased, from 4 grams to 6 grams!|
|Mar-03-13|| ||Tiggler: <HeMateMe: The chocolate ration has been increased, from 4 grams to 6 grams!> That's great news. All thanks to the wisdom and leadership of Big Brother.|
|Mar-04-13|| ||theodor: Congrats Wesley, and So on!|
|Mar-04-13|| ||Rolfo: Congrats, and So long|
|Mar-07-13|| ||DiscoJew: @rolfo
That's what she said...
|Mar-07-13|| ||HeMateMe: Hey, it's the return of <Disco Jew>! Been tripping the lights fantastic, of late?|
|Mar-07-13|| ||Kanatahodets: < Maatalkko: as GM Sveshnikov has proposed. Evgeni has a legitimate beef, when you think about it; he earned at fat $0.00 for discovering what may well have been the last entirely new branch of sound opening theory.> He had paid well for playing the game and he has pension practically for hobby. It's a nice life. Now he is saying that the system has to be changed. That Russian chess players cannot earn a living! Well, this is the reality, live with that. I wonder how a chess player of the same level can survive in the USA or Europe? He cannot unless he is MC or FC.|
|Mar-07-13|| ||notyetagm: What game is this?? It is annotated at chessabase.com but the chessgames.com database says that Wei Yi was Black against Baklan in Round 7, not White!|
<[Event "2013 Reykjavik Open"] [Site "?"] [Date "2013.??.??"] [Round "7"] [White "Yi, Wei"] [Black "Qingnan, Liu"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "B86"] [WhiteElo "2502"] [BlackElo "2500"] [PlyCount "59"] [EventDate "2011.??.??"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4. Nc3 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 Nbd7 8. f4 b5 9. f5 Nc5 10. Qf3 This line has fallen out of favor due to fairly dreadful results. Megabase 2013 says White only has a 27% win-rate. Bd7 11. Bg5 b4 ... ♗e7 has been the favored move but the two games in which ...b4 was played were ♗lack victories. 12. fxe6 fxe6 13. e5 $3 After this lightning bolt, 11...b4 will be locked up and the key thrown out. dxe5 14. Bxf6 gxf6 15. Rd1 The most precise move, and most likely the result of well-tuned home preparation. exd4 ♗lack cannot find a way out of the mess, and many times the only way to refute a sacrifice is to accept it. (15... bxc3 loses immediately to 16. Qh5+ Ke7 17. Nf5+ $1 exf5 18. Qf7# Lovely.) (15... Bg7 16. Nxe6 Nxe6 17. Bxe6 is also fatal, since White is Δ both ♖xd7 and ♕h5 ♕f7 mate. ♗lack cannot defend against both.) 16. Qh5+ Ke7 17. Qxc5+ Kf7 18. Qh5+ Ke7 19. Ne4 Qb6 20. O-O The hunt for the black king is coming to an end. Bg7 21. Nc5 Δ ♘xd7 ♔xd7 ♕f7+. Be8 22. Qg4 Bh6 23. Nxe6 Be3+ 24. Kh1 Bg6 25. Nxd4 Bxd4 26. Rxd4 Rhd8 27. Re1+ Kf8 28. Qf4 $1 The rook on d4 is untouchable. Kg7 (28... Rxd4 29. Qh6#) 29. Re7+ Kh8 30. Qh6 1-0 >
|Mar-31-13|| ||WTHarvey: Here is a free pamphlet of 52 critical positions from the tournament: http://www.scribd.com/doc/133277036...|
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