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Sep-28-06
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| ray keene: sultan khan learned fast-he went on to defeat tartakower-rubinstein and capablanca-see the book on him by coles at www.hardingesimpole.co.uk the best games of mir sultan khan |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| Maatalkko: Sultan Khan makes me smile. Watching him play simplistic openings and then beat grandmasters has a cheering effect. His play reminds me of a young Capablanca, although somewhat less aggressive. One building move after another, and eventually his erudite European competition would make a mistake. |
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| Oct-28-06 |
| Octavia: <Chap's got a very oddly proportioned head and a rather petery haircut> reminds me to the time my husband had a haircut in India - when he came back, his head was shaped just like many Indian's!!! lol |
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| Mar-14-07 |
| drik: <Kriegspiel: Chap's got a very oddly proportioned head> Here we have one of the greatest natural talents to ever play the game ... and a major topic of interest appears to be his oddly proportioned head. Sigh! It is not as if Anatoly Karpov could have posed for Rodin's The Thinker. |
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| Apr-02-07 |
| itsaworry: "...Col. Sir Nawab Umar Hayat Khan entertained the American chess team at his home one evening in 1933 the table waiter was Sultan Khan, to the embarrassment of all except the illustrious Colonel" (Harold C Schonberg, Grandmasters of Chess) |
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Feb-21-08
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| Knight13: You all know what Sultan Khan means in the once powerful Ottoman Empire right? |
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| Aug-27-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
Photographs:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385... http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (London, 1932. Theodore Tylor has white against Sultan Khan) |
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| Nov-07-08 |
| anandrulez: The legend , Mir Sulthan Khan is probably the best ever chess player !
He was no GM and he defeated Capablanca ...amazing player . |
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| Mar-02-09 |
| Dredge Rivers: khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!!! |
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| Mar-18-09 |
| Augalv: <"Unable to read or write, he never studied any books on the game yet became one of the ten best players in the world."> Impressive. |
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Apr-10-09
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| Open Defence: I wish the Indian Sub Continent would honour him |
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Apr-10-09
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| SamAtoms1980: No doubt about it, he was the Srinivasa Ramanujan of chess |
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May-17-09
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| Domdaniel: <SamAtoms> Yes, there are clear similarities: both seemingly emerged from nowhere to become one of the best in the world at their discipline, both came from India in the early 20th century, flourished shortly before independence, and had a short career before death (Ramanujan) or retirement (Sultan Khan). But there are important differences too. They came from opposite ends of India, and very different cultures. Ramanujan, using elementary sourcebooks, produced truly astonishing maths -- some of it is still bewildering. Sultan Khan, strong as he was, wasn't quite on this level. I'd like to know more about the precise variety of Indian chess at which he was expert. How different from the standard game is it, do the skills normally transfer, etc. And there's a certain amount of romantic 'mysterious exotic East' hype about the myth surrounding both Ramanujan and Sultan Khan -- what Edward Said called Orientalism, I think. Just imagine a mathematician/chessplayer from the exotic West, named Windsor Bourbon King (after the European royals who 'sponsored' him) ... wearing an exotic 'tweed suit' with a charming ethnic 'hat', or a pair of 'traditional workingman's denims' ... coming from Moldova or Scotland, or is it Malta? ... and blowing away all the experts from civilized countries like China and India. Worse yet, imagine an American Cowboy in Japan taking on the samurai. Oh, right -- Tom Cruise. Of course. |
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May-18-09
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| Open Defence: <Dom> I did do Shatranj puzzles in my forum and <TheMadHair> and I played a couple of Shatranj games too, I read somewhere that Sultan Khan was primarily a Shatranj player... |
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| Jul-06-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Shatranj is too old |
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Jul-06-09
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| Open Defence: sez hu ? |
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| Jul-06-09 |
| WhiteRook48: people who are too used to the new chess
(hardly new) |
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Jul-12-09
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| ILikeFruits: his play...
reminds me...
of...
lasker... |
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| Dec-17-09 |
| Kasparock: One can only "learn" chess at about 10%. All the other is not knowledge. It is talent and intuition. It is calculation and judgment.You can't learn these things, either you "have" them or not. |
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| Dec-17-09 |
| FHBradley: I rather suspect that's nonsense. |
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| Dec-29-09 |
| Cibator: Worth pointing out too that Sultan Khan frequently suffered from ill-health; he found the British climate rather trying, to say the least. According to the Oxford Companion to Chess, having Winter and Yates as his trainers was not necessarily a help, since they were also his rivals in play. Harry Golombek also describes him as " ... rather lazy, and blessed, or cursed, with a childish sense of humour that manifested itself in a high-pitched laugh." (Chess Treasury of the Air, 1966) |
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Dec-29-09
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| maxi: <Cibator> What does this mean: "According to the Oxford Companion to Chess, having Winter and Yates as his trainers was not necessarily a help, since they were also his rivals in play." They were going to train him incorrectly? Cheat? What? How come he played so few games? |
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| Dec-29-09 |
| Cibator: <Maxi>: I quote the relevant passage: "Unable to read or write, he never studied any books on the game, and he was mistakenly put in the hands of trainers who were also his rivals in play." The authors don't elaborate or illustrate further. Your guess is as good as mine regarding what they specifically mean. It's not like them to make unsupported insinuations of this sort, and I can't think why they did it in this particular case. |
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Dec-29-09
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| parisattack: <Kasparock: One can only "learn" chess at about 10%. All the other is not knowledge. It is talent and intuition. It is calculation and judgment.You can't learn these things, either you "have" them or not.> After years of thought I have concluded essentially the same thing. Unless you 'have it' studying - no matter how efficiently - is only going to get you so far. As to Mir Sultan Kahn - Not much on in English save the book by Coles and articles in BCM during his time in the UK, 1930s. |
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Jan-02-10
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| maxi: Thanks, <Cibator>. |
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