| Apr-22-04 |
| nikolaas: Is this the Caro from the Caro-Kann? |
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| Apr-22-04 |
| capanegra: Yes nikolaas. The Caro-Kann Defense was named that way after the Viennese player Marcus Kann (1820-1886) and the British player Horatio Caro (1862-1920), published an article in the German chess magazine in 1886, introducing 1.e4 c6 with corresponding analysis. |
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| Apr-23-04 |
| nikolaas: Thanks very much. Again a bit more that I know. |
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| Apr-23-04 |
| rochade18: Only 62 games are shown, though he played against Schlechter, Janowski and other good players of that time. |
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| Apr-23-04 |
| ruylopez900: Did Mr, Caro play his opening much? I realize that this probably isn't all his games, but it just seems odd that he would have played less then 6 games with his famed defense. (Or was it all about the analyzing for him?) |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Kangaroo: This is a true holiday for all Caro-Kann fans!
Very often it transfers into my favorite French and therefore Caro-Kann may be viewed as the improved French after <1.e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5> ... . |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Kangaroo: Who was Kann, where and when was he born? |
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Jul-05-06
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: According to Al Horowitz, Kann was a citizen of Pesth (or Pest), now part of Budapest. The merger between Buda and Pest occurred in November 1873. Now if you'll excuse me, I must drink a toast to the man whose defense made me a Master. |
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Jul-05-06
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| al wazir: I see only two games here in which Caro played the Caro-Kann, and he didn't win either. (There may be others; I haven't looked at all of the games to see if the opening has been misidentified.) But why doesn't the database have any games played by Kann? |
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| Jul-05-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: <But why doesn't the database have any games played by Kann?> <al wazir> Here is a game in which Kann playes the Caro-Kann defense. [Event "?"]
[Site "Hamburg"]
[Date "1885.??.??"]
[White "Mieses,Jacques "]
[Black "Kann,Marcus "]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Round "?"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Bd3 Bxd3 5. Qxd3 e6 6. f4 c5 7. c3 Nc6
8. Nf3 Qb6 9. O-O Nh6 10. b3 cxd4 11. cxd4 Nf5 12. Bb2 Rc8 13. a3 Ncxd4 14. Nxd4 Bc5
15. Rd1 Nxd4 16. Bxd4 Bxd4+ 17. Qxd4 Rc1 0-1
I will also submit it to the chessgames.com database. |
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Jul-05-06
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| al wazir: Thanks, <EmperorAtahualpa>. Caro Kann but Uwe Durst not. (That one's for all you punsters out there.) |
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| Jul-05-06 |
| mahmoudkubba: I can see that Khan have other related opening(s) to it but very few have Caro related even though many do plays it (Caro) but no mentioning is done usually to such that fact. Yet as far as I knows their are games with only Caro and only Khan that is Caro without Khan or any related way and Khan without Caro or any related way. |
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| Jul-05-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: <Yet as far as I knows their are games with only Caro and only Khan that is Caro without Khan or any related way and Khan without Caro or any related way.> <mahmoudkubba> Caro without Kann? Kann without Caro? So you mean a "Caro-defense" and a "Kann-defense", right? I've never heard of them. Can you please explain further? Thanks. |
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| Jul-05-06 |
| mahmoudkubba: <EmperorAtahualpa>: One short way of explaining this in this quick forum is that every thing proved to be a Khan is started with the black playing c7-c6, right? well thats just one thing of the whole matter. But when applying this to a real blitz it is as far as I knows might have more than one meaning yet two players might have the same moves similar to anothe two players. Thats just the starting point. I can't say more but only said this to u and to others for the goodness, truth, validity and justified world(s) really. |
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Jul-06-06
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: <al wazir>, are you responsible for some of the Game of the Day puns? If not, why not? |
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Jul-06-06
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| al wazir: <An Englishman>: I believe that this site is for chess, and to pursue any other topic is a transgression, not to say an abomination. That said, I admit to having transgressed a few times. But as far as I could tell, nobody took any notice. |
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Jul-05-07
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| WannaBe: Interesting...
The earliest game in the DB with C-K opening is W Paulsen vs Max Weiss, 1883 and I see that Caro himself have 2 games in DB with C-K as opening (Caro playing black) There is one player and one game in DB with Marcus Kann I'm gonna guess he is the Kann in the C-K opening? The year of the game looks close enough, but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio... |
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| Jul-05-07 |
| nescio: <WannaBe: The earliest game in the DB with C-K opening is W Paulsen vs Max Weiss, 1883 and I see that Caro himself have 2 games in DB with C-K as opening (Caro playing black)> In those days 1...c6 was considered a little eccentric at best. As far as I know Caro's article in "Brüderschaft" dates from 1886 and I think Marcus Kann was co-author. <There is one player and one game in DB with Marcus Kann I'm gonna guess he is the Kann in the C-K opening? The year of the game looks close enough, but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio...> Caro was a strong player, but very little is known about Kann. The game you refer to seems to be the only one that has survived. |
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Apr-22-09
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| stoy: The Caro-Kann defense helped Mikhail Botvinnik regain the title of world champion in 1958 against Smyslov and again in 1961 against Tal. Capablanca also liked it as did Petrosian & Karpov. |
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Jul-05-09
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| wordfunph: Master Horatio Caro will not be complete without his partner Kann....Caro-Kann! Happy Birthday Master Caro.. |
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Jul-05-09
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: Hello, Mr. Caro, from an Englishman who's most grateful for your co-discovery! |
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Jul-05-09
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| whiteshark: <WannaBe: <...but Marcus Kann doesn't have any bio...>> Check it out again. :D |
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Jul-05-09
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| whiteshark: Player of the Day
Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horati...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horati... |
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| Jul-05-09 |
| WhiteRook48: inventor of the Caro-Kann |
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Jul-05-09
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| whiteshark: About 48% right. |
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