| Nepomniachtchi - Ding World Championship Match (2023) |
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Reigning world champion Magnus Carlsen decided not to defend his title. The World Championship Match was accordingly played between the winner of the World Championship Candidates (2022) tournament, Ian Nepomniachtchi, and the runner-up, Ding Liren. Fourteen games were played at classical time controls. Since the players were tied at 7-7, they proceeded to a rapid tiebreak. After three draws, Ding won a dramatic game to win the match and the championship. Name: FIDE World Chess Championship
Event Date: April 9 - 30, 2023
Site: Astana, Kazakhstan
Format: 14 rounds Classical
Time control: 120 minutes for the first 40 moves, followed by 60 minutes for the next 20 moves and then 15 minutes
for the rest of the game with an increment of 30 seconds per move starting from move 61.
Tie-break:
A match of four (4) games is played with a time control of 25 minutes + 10 seconds increment per move, starting
from move 1. There is a drawing of lots to decide which player starts with white.
If the score is still level after the match, another match of two (2) games is played with a time control of
5 minutes + 3 seconds increment per move, starting from move 1. If the score is still level, another 2-game
match is played with the same time control; this procedure may be repeated up to a total of five (5) 2-game matches.
There is a drawing of lots to decide which player starts with white for each of the 2-game matches.Regulations:
https://handbook.fide.com/files/han... Candidates:
Ian Nepomniachtchi
Ding Liren Official Website: https://worldchampionship.fide.com/
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| Mar-02-23 | | Messiah: May Bill play anything else than the Petroff. |
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Mar-02-23
 | | Atterdag: A mighty comprehensive process is now set in motion to find out who shall become the second best chess player in the world. |
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Mar-02-23
 | | MissScarlett: The first all-Asian world championship. |
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| Mar-02-23 | | Messiah: <MissScarlett: The first all-Asian world championship.> Do you think you were witty, privilege abuser? |
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Mar-02-23
 | | HeMateMe: Bruce Lee vs. Charlie Chan? |
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Mar-02-23
 | | Williebob: <The first all-Asian world championship>, wouldn't Kasparov-Anand count as first by that measure?
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Mar-02-23
| | Williebob: The current head-to-head score between Ian and Ding, according to the CGDB:
Classical games: <Ian Nepomniachtchi beat Ding Liren 3 to 2, with 8 draws.>
Including rapid/exhibition games: <Ian Nepomniachtchi beat Ding Liren 13 to 9, with 17 draws.>
Only rapid/exhibition games: <Ian Nepomniachtchi beat Ding Liren 10 to 7, with 9 draws.> |
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Mar-02-23
| | Williebob: <<The first all-Asian world championship>, wouldn't Kasparov-Anand count as first by that measure?>
There's a joke I'm too daft to get somehow... if most or all of the former Soviet Union counts as Asia, then I reckon the first 'all Asian' WCC must be either
Alekhine - Bogoljubov World Championship Match (1929)
or, if Bogo is to be considered a German by 1929,
Botvinnik - Bronstein World Championship Match (1951)
However, most likely I am missing something, like a sense of humor. |
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Mar-02-23
| | Atterdag: Two very different human beings. Nepomniachtchi, restless, awkward body language, highly emotional. Ding Liren, the stereotype of an Asian face: expressionless like a marble statue. None of them near the strength of real world champion. Thanks for the summary of facts, <Williebob>. Nepo's miniscule edge means nothing. If DL begins winning a couple of games, Nepo would still be prone to a breake-down like vs. Carlsen. IMHO, of course. In spite of its insignificance in the big picture, the match between those two opposite personalities could become quite interesting. Either way, the wonderful dictators in the Kremlin and Beijing will be thrilled to watch their cultural soldiers triumph. |
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Mar-02-23
 | | fredthebear: Many consider Russia (and Ukraine) as part of the continent of Europe. |
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Mar-02-23
| | MissScarlett: <On February 17, the Fair Play Commission (FPL) unanimously adopted the report on the Carlsen/Niemann incident drafted by the Panel tasked with investigating the case, composed of Klaus Deventer (chair), Vincent Geeraets and Salomeja Zaksaite. On February 20, the 30-page report was forwarded to the Ethics and Disciplinary Commission (EDC) for further consideration. EDC’s nominated panel will assess the FPL’s findings and reach a decision on the case within six weeks.> https://fide.com/news/2249
In other words, this is due to drop sometime around the start of the match. |
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Mar-02-23
| | Williebob: <Atterdag>, I am certainly looking forward to the match.
<None of them near the strength of real world champion.>
Well, neither player can dominate Carlsen, but if Magnus quit chess entirely then these two would absolutely qualify as strong enough to claim the crown.
Since I seem to be camping out on this page today, I'd like to reiterate my opinion that we should bear Magnus no ill feeling about the WCC. I see no reason why he should just do FIDE's bidding with the 2-year cycle.
Even if it does put a strain on the meaning of the title itself, this match features two of the very best at arguably the peak of their careers. Perhaps in the future we will look at this match as a test similar to Chigorin - Tarrasch (1893) |
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| Mar-02-23 | | stone free or die: <WillieBob:
<<Missy> The first all-Asian world championship>,
wouldn't Kasparov-Anand count as first by that measure?>Leave it to <Missy> to try to stir the pot for less than good reason. If Nepo counts as Asian, then why not go all the way back to <Botvinnik--Bronstein (Moscow 1951)>? (OK, maybe you require the site to be east of the Urals..., but note that Bryansk is well west of the Urals) If you allow the site to not also be in Asia, then <Alekhine--Bogo (1929)> might be considered, save for Bogo having naturalized by that time. . < |
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Mar-02-23
| | Williebob: <fredthebear: Many consider Russia (and Ukraine) as part of the continent of Europe.>
Indeed, and as far as Western chess historians are concerned, Eugenio Torre was the first Asian GM.
A WCC between Chinese and/or Indian players would appear likely in the near future. |
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Mar-02-23
| | MissScarlett: I'm not saying it, it's the RCF:
<The Russian Chess Federation is leaving Europe to become part of the Asian Chess Federation after 29 delegates voted in favour, with only 1 against and 6 abstentions, in today’s Asian Chess Summit in Abu Dhabi.> https://new.chess24.com/wall/news/r... The UK left Europe, too, but we're not getting in bed with Asians. |
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| Mar-02-23 | | stone free or die: OK, that was quite the setup <MIssy>. An interesting development maybe, what are the actual consequences? |
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Mar-02-23
 | | Retireborn: Botvinnik was the first Finnish Grandmaster, you know. Hence his well-known war cry "Finnish him!" |
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| Mar-02-23 | | stone free or die: <Retireborn> chuckle! |
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Mar-02-23
| | Williebob: <Starless C Mist>, I wonder which generation of great players is going to have their careers ruined by World War Three. |
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Mar-02-23
 | | Dionysius1: Maybe no-one has to, what with so much chess being online? |
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Mar-02-23
| | fredthebear: <A WCC between Chinese and/or Indian players would appear likely in the near future.> This 44th Olympiad was a shocker: Chennai Olympiad (2022) I'll take Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa over Alireza Firouzja. Abhimanyu Mishra instead of Samuel Sevian might be the best bet for the USA. Hans Moke Niemann will never play for the WC. |
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| Mar-02-23 | | fabelhaft: It’s not like it’s their fault, but I doubt any title match comes close to this one with regards to both participants having comparatively non-World Champion level career achievements. Nepo will be 33 this year and was top ten for the first time in 2019. Ding Liren has only won one real super tournament as far as I recall, Sinquefield Cup 2019, after playoff. In three Candidates he at best finished 1.5 point from first. This time he didn’t qualify for it, but then Karjakin was banned. Should they be top 50 on this list? https://chess24.com/en/learn/advanc... Karjakin is 49th, but then he won a bunch of top tournaments and lost a title match in tiebreak. Leko is 44th after drawing a title match and winning all the top tournaments Linares, Wijk and Dortmund. Short fails to reach top 50 after having won Candidates after beating Karpov in a match, and several top tournament wins, like Amsterdam 1991 ahead of Kasparov and Karpov. Nepo is not likely to suddenly start scoring consistent super results at 33, after fifteen years in top events. Ding doesn’t feel like a player that will reach another level in his 30s, even if his +1-3=9 in Tata was unusually disappointing. I’d probably include Nepo somewhere in the 40s and leave Ding outside the list at the moment. The question is how high up the winner should be moved after the match. Ahead of Euwe? Korchnoi, Keres, Caruana? |
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Mar-02-23
 | | plang: There is no clear number 2 right now. We will just have to wait for someone (presumably younger) to emerge as a clear successor to Carlsen (or for Carlsen to come back). For now this match will have to do. |
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Mar-02-23
 | | perfidious: <fredthebore.... Hans Moke Niemann will never play for the WC.> The imprimatur delivered by the GOAT, Niemann's career is thus decided. Good grief, is it sparkling clear what the definition of hubris is now. |
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| Mar-03-23 | | stone free or die: Never say never.
But Hans does have yet to demonstrate he's a consistent super-GM, which most would agree is a safe perquisite. |
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