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Gioachino Greco
Greco 
No authentic image of Greco is known to exist.
This fanciful rendition appeared in Julio Ganzo's
Historia general del ajedrez, 3rd ed.
(Madrid, 1973), p. 88.
 

Number of games in database: 90
Years covered: 1620 to 1625
Overall record: +88 -0 =0 (100.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 2 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 King's Gambit Accepted (19) 
    C33 C34 C37 C38 C39
 Giuoco Piano (17) 
    C54 C53
 Bishop's Opening (10) 
    C23
 King's Pawn Game (6) 
    C40 C20
 Philidor's Defense (4) 
    C41
With the Black pieces:
 King's Pawn Game (6) 
    C40 C20
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GIOACHINO GRECO
(born 1600, died 1634, 34 years old) Italy

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Gioachino Greco, also known as Il Calabrese, was born around 1600 in Celico, Italy near Cosenza in Calabria. In 1619 in Rome, Greco started keeping a notebook of tactics and games, and he took up the custom of giving copies of his manuscripts to his wealthy patrons. These manuscripts offer the most definite facts about his life. There are four Roman manuscripts, two of uncertain date, but the other two clearly dated to February 1620. 1621 finds him in Nancy, France where he dedicated a manuscript to the Duke of Lorraine. He may have visited Paris in 1622, as most histories claim, but the evidence is thin. By 1623, he was in London, where his manuscripts begin to include longer games. In 1624-1625, Greco was in Paris, and his manuscripts from this visit show the continuing refinement of his game.(1)

Details concerning the rest of his life are speculative, relying almost entirely upon a brief account by Alessandro Salvio. According to Salvio, Greco ended up at the court of King Philipp IV in Spain, and from there followed a Spanish nobleman to the West Indies, where he died. As Salvio's text was published in 1634, that is given as the year of his death. Salvio also reports that he bequethed his fortune to the Jesuits. It is also possible that he was robbed to or from his visit to London, and restored his fortunes in Paris. There is speculation contrary to Salvio's claims, based on a 1734 description of a manuscript that is no longer extant, that Greco was back in London in 1632. If true, it gives credence to the long discredited assertion of William Lewis that he died at an advanced age.(2)

Greco published his analysis of the contemporary chess openings (Giuoco Piano, Bishop Opening, King's Gambit, etc.) in the form of short games in manuscripts 1620-1625, but several extant manuscripts are of uncertain date. In 1656, Francis Beale transcribed 94 of Greco's games into a text that was published by Henry Herringman in London.(3) Whatever manuscript was Beale's source no longer exists. A French edition of Greco's games, based on still extant manuscripts, was published in 1669. This text formed the basis of the collections published by William Lewis (1819) and Louis Hoffmann (1900), which in turn formed the sources for today's databases. Both Lewis and Hoffmann offer many variations that are not yet collected in databases. Lewis found 146 variations, which he reduced to 47 games. Hoffmann expanded the number of games to 77, reducing the number of variations appended to each one. Greco's games are regarded as classics of early chess literature and are often taught to beginners.

Jeremy Silman observed, "There are many games which show Greco toying with his hopelessly over-matched opponents, and one gains the impression that he was a master of tactics and of open games, and that he was so far beyond other players of his time that it was, in effect, a case of a grandmaster versus players rated between 1000 and 1800. Once in a while, Greco would face someone who could fight back, which allows us to see Greco's positional skills. It is possible that some, or even all, of the games were fabricated, but even if they were inventions they still show a chess understanding centuries ahead of his time. . . . There never was, and never will be again, a player so far ahead of his time."(4)

(1)Wikipedia article: Gioachino Greco
(2)Peter J. Monté, The Classical Era of Modern Chess (McFarland 2014)
(3)Wikipedia article: Francis Beale (writer)
(4)https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

Last updated: 2023-09-23 00:12:15

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 page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 90  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. NN vs Greco 0-181620UnknownC37 King's Gambit Accepted
2. Greco vs NN 1-0101620UnknownC34 King's Gambit Accepted
3. Greco vs NN 1-091620UnknownC33 King's Gambit Accepted
4. Greco vs NN 1-0111620UnknownC33 King's Gambit Accepted
5. Greco vs NN 1-0101620UnknownC33 King's Gambit Accepted
6. Greco vs NN 1-0101620UnknownC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
7. Greco vs NN 1-0121620UnknownC30 King's Gambit Declined
8. Greco vs NN 1-0231620Italy?C37 King's Gambit Accepted
9. Greco vs NN 1-0201620Miscellaneous gameC54 Giuoco Piano
10. Greco vs NN 1-0191620Miscellaneous gameC54 Giuoco Piano
11. Greco vs NN 1-0181620Miscellaneous gameC54 Giuoco Piano
12. Greco vs NN 1-0141620Miscellaneous gameC54 Giuoco Piano
13. Greco vs NN 1-071620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
14. Greco vs NN 1-091620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
15. Greco vs NN 1-0141620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
16. Greco vs NN 1-0171620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
17. Greco vs NN 1-0201620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
18. Greco vs NN 1-0141620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
19. Greco vs NN 1-0171620Miscellaneous gameC53 Giuoco Piano
20. NN vs Greco 0-1131620Miscellaneous gameC50 Giuoco Piano
21. NN vs Greco 0-1141620Miscellaneous gameC50 Giuoco Piano
22. NN vs Greco 0-1151620Miscellaneous gameC50 Giuoco Piano
23. Greco vs NN 1-0151620Miscellaneous gameC42 Petrov Defense
24. Greco vs NN 1-0211620Miscellaneous gameC41 Philidor Defense
25. Greco vs NN 1-0111620Miscellaneous gameC41 Philidor Defense
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Jan-11-09  blacksburg: from the batgirl page -

"While in London, <Greco developed an idea to record entire games> rather than positions for study and inclusion in his manuscripts. He returned to Paris in 1624 where he rewrote his manuscript collection to reflect his new ideas. He then went to Spain and played at the court of Philip IV. There he beat his mentor and the strongest player of the time (other than himself), don Mariano Morano."

is it not strange that we have no recorded greco games, yet he developed an idea to record entire games?

for example, why would greco not publish one or two of his games with the esteemed don Mariano Morano? (these people have cool freakin names, btw)

it just seems strange that we have so many of his "fake" games, and none against real people, while earlier players Ruy Lopez, Lucena, da Cutri, have only very few presumably "real" games, but no "fake" ones.

hmmm, i wonder, when Greco presented his manuscripts to his various benefactors, did he present them as real games against real people, or as manufactured tactical examples?

once again, karpova comes through with an informative and entertaining link.

Jan-11-09  blacksburg: maybe i'm ignoring the significance of the 400 year time difference between then and now, i don't know. they didn't even have cell phones then.
Jan-11-09  Karpova: <blacksburg: maybe i'm ignoring the significance of the 400 year time difference between then and now, i don't know.>

That's most likely the case. It's almost impossible to compare the chess scene of that time with today's so I'd be reluctant to criticise Greco. Just on a sidenote, Greco beat the best players while people were watching and if anybody still doubted his chess skills he could have beaten him easily also.

Jan-11-09  blacksburg: "Salvio wrote that Leonardo lost his first two games, and when King Philip was leaving, thinking this wasn't going to be much of a competition, Leonardo begged him to stay and told that him he lost those 2 games on purpose to better display his skill by positioning himself where he had no option but to win the next 3 games (and presumably the match) and, that if he didn't win all three, he'd forfeit his life. Philip II had offered 1,000 scudi bonus to the winner of three consecutive games. He won all three games in a fitting revenge for what he considered a humiliating defeat at Ruy Lopez's hands years before. Philip II was so taken by Leonardo's courage and panache that he not only gave him the money, but also a golden salamader encrusted with jewels, a sable coat and exempted the town of Cutro from taxes for 20 years."

heh heh that batgirl website is awesome

Jan-21-09  Phantom.Nightmare: Quite funny that recorded in the database Greco scores 100%, though his games were against people who are hardly known.
Mar-16-09  WhiteRook48: what do we find out?
Mar-16-09  WhiteRook48: all his games are against NN!
Mar-28-09  Dredge Rivers: Little known fact:

He and Roman Polanski invented Greco-Roman wrestling! :)

Jun-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kingscrusher: Excuse me "BatGirl" (SBC)- can you explain this comment a little bit more - I am intrigued:

"While searching I came across a funny bit of nonsense worth mentioning. This site, http://www.chesscorner.com/tutorial... , asserts that "The Giuoco Piano is named after an Italian chess player called Gioachino Greco who lived in the 17th century.""

Does not Gioachino relate to "Giuoco" !

Does anyone know for sure if Chesscorner is right or wrong about this. I'm currently studying Greco and doing some youtube videos of his games at youtube.com/kingscrusher and am currently interested in his impact.

Jun-24-09  JonathanJ: giuoco means "game" in italian. giuoco piano means "quiet game".
Jun-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kingscrusher: Yeah, but it would have been very easy for FIDE to rename it from Giuoco Piano to something else - e.g. people that Analysed it. Here is an analogous precedent to consider:

1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 f5

was originally called the "Greco Counter Gambit".

Maybe it was left as Giuoco Piano in respect of Greco's first name - i.e. his first name "Gioachino". They sound the same. Also maybe also because they already zapped his Greco Counter Gambit - and left him with a rather poxy variation called the "Greco defence" - 1.e4 e4 2.Nf3 Qf6, than more respect was deserving of Greco and the Italians in general for their influence in the evolution of chess ?!

The Greco Counter Gambit was later renamed by Fide to be the "Latvian Gambit" because of a lot of later analysis done it by Latvian players.

Aug-06-09  Dredge Rivers: <kingscrusher> What's to analyse with the Latvian Gambit? It's garbage, end of story!
Sep-21-09  Karpova: In C.N. 6320 Jeremy Silman wrote to Edward Winter in order to express his admiration for Greco. It's a long Chess Note with some annotations also, so it's definitely worth checking out.

Here are some remarks:

Jeremy Silman: <There are many games which show Greco toying with his hopelessly over-matched opponents, and one gains the impression that he was a master of tactics and of open games, and that he was so far beyond other players of his time that it was, in effect, a case of a grandmaster versus players rated between 1000 and 1800. Once in a while, Greco would face someone who could fight back, which allows us to see Greco’s positional skills. It is possible that some, or even all, of the games were fabricated, but even if they were inventions they still show a chess understanding centuries ahead of his time.>

<My impression is that Greco was further ahead of his contemporaries than any player who came after him. He was clearly of grandmaster strength at tactics, his openings were (for his time) cutting-edge, and his play in open positions was world-class. Yes, he took liberties which would not stand up against stronger opponents, but I think that he was well aware of his opponents’ failings and thus had little or nothing to worry about – he swung the bat freely in an effort to create classic mates and attacks that no doubt amused him.

He had solid positional skills too.>

Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

Sep-21-09  Gypsy: I love how SBC, just in passing, drops profound comments on the nature of games: <... modern chess proved to be more tactical, and therefore more strategical (as all tactics flow from good positions). ...>
Jun-05-10  CapablancaFan122: I recently started reading an openings book by the Turkish author Umit Unkan. In his book he gives the following game between Greco and a certain Marconi:

<White: Gioachino Greco, Black: Marconi. (Genoa, 1619) 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Bd3 Nc6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.h4 0-0 6.e5 Nd5 7.Bxh7+ Kxh7 8.Ng5+ Kg8 9.Qh5 Bxg5 10.hxg5 f5 11.g6 and mate to follow>

Now, I am not sure if this game is in the database or not. However, considering that all Greco's opponents were NNs, I found it interesting that the name of this player was given in the book. Maybe not all Greco's games were composed?

Jun-05-10  Calli: <CapablancaFan122> The game is here: Greco vs NN, 1620 Unkan probably meant Mariano Morano but, as far as I know, none of Greco's opponents are identified.
Jun-05-10  CapablancaFan122: <Calli> Thanks for the link to the game. <as far as I know, none of Greco's opponents are identified.> That's why I found it very interesting that Unkan has provided a name. I had suspected that the name "Marconi" is stereotypically Italian and thus could have been made up, but a simple "Greco-Marconi" search gives this: (I believe it is in Spanish)

http://www.ajedrezdeataque.com/02%2...

Jul-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  fm avari viraf: Greco Sir, Nescio Nomen is at your service always but pardon me of my Chess tactics!
Jan-14-11  kevins55555: Gee, the NN opponent must be easy!
Aug-11-12  torrefan: RIP master Greco. We were saddened by your untimely demise.

Torrefan.

LOL!

Aug-11-12  Petrosianic: Yeah, none of us will ever forget that day.
Aug-11-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: NN certainly wasn't displeased to see him pass on, I'm sure. Had the two never met, there would be a mere 480 losses against NN's ledger.
Jan-27-13  dumbgai: Born "around 1600" but has two games dated 1590. ?
May-27-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: RIP master Greco.
May-27-13  Fiona Macleod: He's dead already??
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