|Carlsen - Caruana World Championship Match (2018)|
The World Chess Championship 2018 between reigning world champion since 2013, Magnus Carlsen, and challenger Fabiano Caruana, a 12-game match organized by FIDE and its commercial partner Agon, will be played in London, at The College in Holborn, from November 9-28 2018. Caruana qualified as challenger at the World Championship Candidates (2018).
The time control is 100 minutes for the first 40 moves, 50 minutes for the next 20 moves and 15 minutes for the rest of the game, with a 30-second increment per move from move 1. Colors alternate between games except after game 6, so the same player plays with White in games 6 and 7. Draw agreements are not allowed before Black's 30th move.
If the match is tied after 12 games, tie-break games will be played on November 28 to determine the winner, starting with a best-of-four rapid match at 25 minutes per player and a 10-second increment; if still tied, up to five two-game blitz minimatches at 5 minutes per player and a 3-second increment, the winner of any minimatch winning the championship; if still tied, an Armageddon game to determine the champion.
All classical games, and the first tie-break game if needed, will begin at 15:00 UTC (10:00 USA/Eastern). Ten-minute breaks between tie-break games are stipulated in the regulations but can be waived by the Chief Arbiter.
Official site: https://worldchess.com. Schedule: https://worldchess.com/tournament/1...
Previous event: Carlsen - Karjakin World Championship (2016)
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|Nov-20-18|| ||parmetd: It's interesting that the most common excuse given to not having a longer match is that the venue costs would become too high.|
We currently have a 12 game match and a tiebreak day played over 20 days (7! rest days). So why can't we reduce the rest days (also helping to perhaps induce errors due to fatigue) and play 16 or 18 games over 20 days. We could eliminate tiebreaks by returning to Champion wins a drawn match which gives us not just the benefit of an extra day but also eliminates this no risk garbage.
Shrug, just an idea, probably suggested before by someone else I am sure.
|Nov-20-18|| ||morfishine: <parmetd> Has a point, but the answer is simple: There must be a winner|
|Nov-20-18|| ||jphamlore: This match is going to have a decisive result game 10 on Thanksgiving Day so don't worry.|
|Nov-20-18|| ||Tal1949: Go with the Morphy-Anderssen style of match- multiple games on the same day!
Why care about perfect chess when we can have exciting chess.|
|Nov-20-18|| ||diceman: <morfishine:
<parmetd> Has a point, but the answer is simple: There must be a winner>
I still say if no one wins (tied after 12) no one gets the title.
If you can't outscore your opponent, you
don't deserve a title.
|Nov-20-18|| ||AylerKupp: <<Socrates> Yeah, well, your person of reference has been on my ignore list for some years now, and I haven't noticed anything that has motivated me to change that.>|
On principle I never put anyone on ignore. But I think that <tuttifrutty> is so far off base so often that he's humorous, so I constantly needle him and he needles me back, or vice versa. But I think that he's very creative and therefore I find him amusing. But, De Gustibus Non Disputandum Est.
<Fortunately, the great chess master Mr. So has survived the utterly ridiculous disservicing propaganda coming from many of his fanatic fans, your reference included.>
I'm not sure if you are lumping me with Mr. So's fanatic fans or not. But, if you are, then I probably have the rare distinction of being the one fanatic banned from posting on his player page because some of his supporters decided that I was anti-So since I didn't bow and genuflect after each of his activities. Therefore they convinced the webmaster from his page to ban me and he didn't even bother to check my supposedly anti-So statements.
I was even told that I would have a difficult time getting back into their good graces so that I could post there again. As though I cared in the slightest.
|Nov-20-18|| ||AylerKupp: <<Fanques Fair> Evidently, it has been proved that the current format of the match for the World Championship is clearly inadequate.>|
How was that proved? I've been trying to prove or disprove that unsuccessfully. Could you point me to the proof? And by chance did those who proved that 12 games was just too few determine how many games would be needed so that the number of games played was adequate?
<And in tie-breaks, I'm tottaly against rapid and blitz games for the title, as it does not measure the player´s capabilities in serious chess.>
I don't doubt that games at Rapid and Blitz time controls are serious chess (just look at the prize money for some of the Rapid and Blitz tournaments!), but I think that they are different than games at Classic time controls and they require different proficiencies from the players. So to resolve a match played mostly at Classic time controls by means of games played at faster time controls simply makes no sense to me.
Then again, many things don't make any sense to me, but that doesn't stop me from blabbing about the subjects.
|Nov-20-18|| ||perfidious: <rogge: Tata Steel 2019 is <without> So, btw :)>|
Which means, therefore, it will not be recognised in the eyes of <pinhead king> and <glenn>.
|Nov-20-18|| ||Penguincw: Man if this were 1984, and the conditions of this match were "First to 6 wins", 48 games would likely decide nothing.|
|Nov-20-18|| ||SugarDom: Actually, there is not much difference between Rapid and Classical Chess in terms of quality and accuracy if it involves the top players.|
Only blitz is a different kind of chess.
|Nov-20-18|| ||pferd: It’s been a great match so far. Midway through the second half and the score is nil-nil, but there have been chances. Carlsen dinged one off the post in game one, and Caruana has done so twice - in games 6 and 8. If the chess is of high quality, and creative, we cannot complain if the result reflects the close matchup of the players.|
|Nov-20-18|| ||frogbert: <Man if this were 1984, and the conditions of this match were "First to 6 wins", 48 games would likely decide nothing>|
Hah! My favourite comment of the day!
|Nov-20-18|| ||gezafan: I think overall Caruana has played a bit better in the match, even though the match is tied. I think he still has a chance of winning though it will be tough.|
|Nov-20-18|| ||DrGridlock: <<Fanques Fair> Evidently, it has been proved that the current format of the match for the World Championship is clearly inadequate.>|
It's easy to prove its adequacy:
(i) Magnus Carlsen is the rated #1 player in the world.
(ii) Magnus Carlsen is the holder of the title "World Champion" through the current qualification and championship matches.
(If someone like Hikaru Nakamura of Vassily Ivanchuk were the World Champion, it would be evidence of the inadequacy of the system's format).
|Nov-20-18|| ||SugarDom: <It's easy to prove its adequacy:|
(i) Magnus Carlsen is the rated #1 player in the world.>
And the Challenger is the no.2. You can't get more adequate than that.
|Nov-21-18|| ||That Roger: <DrGridlock>
Did you guys choose to not read these words contained in the post you responded to?
"format of the match for the World Championship is clearly inadequate. 12 games is just too few"
How do your responses address the post in question?
|Nov-21-18|| ||Sokrates: Dear <AylerKupp>,|
Oh no, how can you think that I included you in my "fanatic fans"? You should know by now that I only have the highest respect for you personally, since I have never expressed anything else.
That, of course, doesn't mean that I am able to agree with everything you write and do, for instance communicating with a person some of us here have dismissed as a sort of troll long time ago. You are far more including and overbearing than me, which speaks for a greater calibre than mine. I am more narrow-minded, losing patience with people, who in my judgement repeatedly express nothing but provocation and wild exaggeration for the sake of it.
Are we good now? :-)
|Nov-21-18|| ||jphamlore: I wouldn't be surprised to see the next game start out 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Qe2 Qe7 6. d3 Nf6 7. Nc3 Qxe2+, because why not, in spite of all the evidence, choose to attack Caruana's Petroff in the lines that exchange Queens as soon as possible.|
|Nov-21-18|| ||OhioChessFan: <Sok: You are far more including and overbearing than me, which speaks for a greater calibre than mine. >|
If being overbearing is a positive, I'm a lot better person than I ever realized.
|Nov-21-18|| ||Viktorerro: d4 is ok for White(MC).
As a first move, or his 3rd move in the Petroff.
Lets go rumble for the last Four Games.
This is it!
|Nov-21-18|| ||HeMateMe: Now HERE'S some world championship chess! the amazing 2005 FIDE unification tournament!|
<FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005)>
|Nov-21-18|| ||dTal: lol @OhioChessFan :-)|
|Nov-21-18|| ||fabelhaft: <the amazing 2005 FIDE unification tournament!>|
So how was that a unification tournament and Topalov the unified Champion?
|Nov-21-18|| ||tuttifrutty: <<tuttifruitty> Perhaps you don't have a clue in business 101. The longer the match, the sponsors gain more publicity...duh.>|
<Perhaps. But it definitely costs more money to stage and the organizers then have to do a cost/benefit analysis to see if the value of the publicity, or any other benefits that they might get, outweigh the additional cost to stage it.
That's business 101. Duh.>
< saffuna: <Perhaps you don't have a clue in business 101. The longer the match, the sponsors gain more publicity...duh.>
<If that's true, and sponsors would like to sponsor longer matches, why don't they pay enough for a full candidates match series the way it used to be?>
It's FIDE who sets the length of the match and the minimum amount of bids, not the sponsors...duh.
The highest bidder wins...duh.
|Nov-21-18|| ||siamesedream: Carlsen's doctor about his injury:
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