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Max Weiss
Number of games in database: 169
Years covered: 1880 to 1911
Overall record: +64 -33 =72 (59.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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(born Jul-21-1857, died Mar-14-1927, 69 years old) Austria

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Max (Miksa) Weiss, born in Sered1, had a short but brilliant chess career. He was 2nd= at Hamburg 1885, 2nd= at Frankfurt (1887) and 1st= with Mikhail Chigorin at New York 1889. The latter tournament was intended to select a challenger to Wilhelm Steinitz for the world championship. Weiss drew the subsequent play-off match (+0, =4, -0), establishing himself as one of the world's best players, but then quit chess for a banking career. In 1895 he did play a match with Georg Marco and won (+5, =1, -1).

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Last updated: 2018-07-21 12:05:12

 page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 169  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. A Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½211880Graz-tmA07 King's Indian Attack
2. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½441880GrazB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
3. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz ½-½231880GrazC11 French
4. E Schallopp vs Max Weiss  ½-½511880GrazC11 French
5. J Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½471880GrazB06 Robatsch
6. Max Weiss vs Wittek ½-½411880GrazC48 Four Knights
7. Max Weiss vs J N Berger  1-0401880GrazA91 Dutch Defense
8. J Noa vs Max Weiss 0-1501880GrazC67 Ruy Lopez
9. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½311880Graz plof-1plC49 Four Knights
10. J Minckwitz vs Max Weiss  ½-½371880Graz plof-1plC11 French
11. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz 0-1331880Graz plof-1plA03 Bird's Opening
12. P Ware vs Max Weiss 1-0381882ViennaD00 Queen's Pawn Game
13. V Hruby vs Max Weiss  1-0371882ViennaC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
14. Wittek vs Max Weiss  ½-½441882ViennaC11 French
15. Meitner vs Max Weiss 1-0981882ViennaC25 Vienna
16. B Fleissig vs Max Weiss 0-1471882ViennaA07 King's Indian Attack
17. Max Weiss vs Englisch ½-½461882ViennaC49 Four Knights
18. J Noa vs Max Weiss  0-1571882ViennaB20 Sicilian
19. Chigorin vs Max Weiss 0-1341882ViennaC01 French, Exchange
20. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz 0-1381882ViennaA00 Uncommon Opening
21. Max Weiss vs Mackenzie 0-1471882ViennaC77 Ruy Lopez
22. Steinitz vs Max Weiss 1-0361882ViennaC00 French Defense
23. Max Weiss vs Paulsen ½-½291882ViennaA07 King's Indian Attack
24. Max Weiss vs Winawer  0-1381882ViennaC49 Four Knights
25. Max Weiss vs Zukertort 1-0821882ViennaC49 Four Knights
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  WannaBe: Giving up chess for banking career... Was that a Weiss move?
Aug-13-05  SneechLatke: This sure is a punny website.
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  Gypsy: It seems that Miksa (Max) Weiss also tied for first with Schechter in Vienna 1895. It was right Weiss wictory overy Marco. Other notable contestants included Englisch, Marco, Zinkl, Mendelbaum, Judd (US consul to Vienna), Schwarz, Halprin, Albin.
Apr-14-07  wolfmaster: Did anyone see the latest on Kasparov? He was fined for making an outbreak in Moscow about Russian politics. Brave guy,eh? :)
May-14-07  BNEW: Max Weiss in wikipedia:
Max Weiss in chessmetrics:
Look for Weiss Miksa
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  whiteshark: <Max Weiss> was !
Was ?
Dec-06-07  BIDMONFA: Max Weiss


Dec-06-07  MorphysMojo: Not only was Weiss high rated per chessmetrics, let it be known that he had plus scores against 19th century greats Zukertort, Chigorin and Janowski, with even scores against Tarrasch, Bird and Winawer. Yeah, I'd say he deserves recognition! With only 167 games in the DB he gets overlooked for the wrong reasons. His loss percentage of only 17% puts him in excellent company!
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  whiteshark: Player of the day.

It looks as if he is widely unknown / underestimated. Wise decision to do banking biz. Should do some investigations in the near future.

Feb-24-08  Knight13: He should've played in Hastings 1895. Then he would've gone down in chess history in a better picture.
Mar-13-08  wolfmaster: Weiss, I think, is the oldest player in the database with more draws than wins or losses. Interesting trivia.
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  brankat: An exceptionally talented chess player.

R.I.P. Master Weiss.

Aug-26-08  myschkin: . . .

Pen portraits of the participants in New York, 1889 were published on page 8 of the New York Times, 16 June 1889, under the heading <The Chessboard Kings - Ways and looks of 20 great players>:

"<Max Weiss> is one of the most careful and conservative chessplayers. In appearance he is a small-built man of fair complexion, very light brown mustache, mild, thoughtful eyes, and a well-developed, polished brow. With his hat on his head, and it is often there, hiding his forehead, he looks like a mild, easy-going German who takes life easily and knows how to enjoy both lager beer and a good cigar ..."

see sketch here (use your imagination):

Oct-22-08  Karpova: <Max Weiss (quoted in Lasker's Chess Magazine, Volume III):

“The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favored servant of the Golden Calf.”>

From Hans Ree's "Farewell, Jeroen Piket!", March 2003:

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  Marmot PFL: <He who hopes to learn the fine art of the game of chess from books will soon discover that only the opening and closing moves of the game admit of exhaustive systematic description, and that the endless variety of the moves which develop from the opening defies description; the gap left in the instructions can only be filled in by the zealous study of games fought out by master-hands.>

Not Weiss, but his friend, Sigmund Freud (154 years old today). No games of his survive evidently, although I think he was a strong player for an amateur.

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  GrahamClayton: <Kean>Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank

Some more information from the "Illustrated Sydney News", dated 21 June 1890, regarding Weiss's victory in the Kolisch tournament:

"In connection with the above it is interesting to note that Baron Rothschild, the famous banker of Vienna, has appointed the winner, Max Weiss, to a lucrative clerkship in his Austrian bank."

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  brankat: A very talented chess player indeed.

A quote attributed to M.Weiss:

"The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favoured servant of the Golden Calf."

To bad Max Weiss himself went to the Golden Half's service when still young.

Jul-27-12  Karpova: Max Weiss died of apoplexia.

He used to play against Moreno Heim with knight odds and for the last time on February 20, 1927. After winning this game he remained at the club and kibitzed a bit. After leaving, he never returned and the next thing they heard about him was the news of his death, one day aftwards. He seems to have been very silent and humble.

Source: Pages 89-91 of the 1927 '(Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung'

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  brankat: R.I.P. master Weiss.
Jul-21-13  GENERALreplacesQ: Interesting that he always opened with the king's pawn like Fischer. In fact in those days e4 was the most popular
Jul-21-15  JimNorCal: I once read a quote attributed to him but it isn't on the Internet and perhaps is apocryphal.

It went something like this "There is no greater pleasure than to shut out the world and sit at a chess table with a steaming mug of coffee at one's elbow"

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  zanzibar: <JimNorCal> Can't argue with the sentiment.

* * * * *

Doing a quick look at the earliest Caro-Kann games. <CG> has this game:

Cochrane vs Somacarana, 1856

(missing from <MB>) which is followed by this game (first in <MB>):

Zukertort vs C Lehmann, 1864

But its real introduction, by a consistent practitioner of note, seems to be by Max Weiss, who played it several times in 1883 Nuremberg, e.g.

Gunsberg vs Max Weiss, 1883

Then Delmar and others picked it up, and Delmar (and later Macro) even played it as Black against Weiss in this early example:

Max Weiss vs E Delmar, 1889

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  TheFocus: Happy birthday, Max Weiss.
Sep-05-17  Arconax: Not much is known about him, it seems.
Sep-10-17  Arconax: Perhaps someone should try to find out a little more about this person. If they have the time.
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