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|Oct-15-04|| ||Kean: An interesting player with another brief career in chess history. According with the supertournaments site, he also won latter the Kolisch Memorial in Vienna 1890, without a loss. "Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank. His solid chess precedes the style of Marco, Schlechter and Maróczy" They suggest that a match against Steinitz would have seen the best positional chess of those years. |
|Aug-02-05|| ||Knight13: A strong player. Very strong player.|
|Aug-13-05|| ||WannaBe: Giving up chess for banking career... Was that a Weiss move?|
|Aug-13-05|| ||SneechLatke: This sure is a punny website.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||Gypsy: It seems that Miksa (Max) Weiss also tied for first with Schechter in Vienna 1895. It was right Weiss wictory overy Marco. Other notable contestants included Englisch, Marco, Zinkl, Mendelbaum, Judd (US consul to Vienna), Schwarz, Halprin, Albin.|
|Apr-14-07|| ||wolfmaster: Did anyone see the latest on Kasparov? He was fined for making an outbreak in Moscow about Russian politics. Brave guy,eh? :)|
|May-14-07|| ||BNEW: Max Weiss in wikipedia:
Max Weiss in chessmetrics:
Look for Weiss Miksa
|Jul-14-07|| ||whiteshark: <Max Weiss> was !
|Dec-06-07|| ||BIDMONFA: Max Weiss|
|Dec-06-07|| ||MorphysMojo: Not only was Weiss high rated per chessmetrics, let it be known that he had plus scores against 19th century greats Zukertort, Chigorin and Janowski, with even scores against Tarrasch, Bird and Winawer. Yeah, I'd say he deserves recognition! With only 167 games in the DB he gets overlooked for the wrong reasons. His loss percentage of only 17% puts him in excellent company!|
|Dec-06-07|| ||whiteshark: Player of the day.
It looks as if he is widely unknown / underestimated. Wise decision to do banking biz. Should do some investigations in the near future.
|Feb-24-08|| ||Knight13: He should've played in Hastings 1895. Then he would've gone down in chess history in a better picture.|
|Mar-13-08|| ||wolfmaster: Weiss, I think, is the oldest player in the database with more draws than wins or losses. Interesting trivia.|
|Jul-21-08|| ||brankat: An exceptionally talented chess player.
R.I.P. Master Weiss.
|Aug-26-08|| ||myschkin: . . .
Pen portraits of the participants in New York, 1889 were published on page 8 of the New York Times, 16 June 1889, under the heading <The Chessboard Kings - Ways and looks of 20 great players>:
"<Max Weiss> is one of the most careful and conservative chessplayers. In appearance he is a small-built man of fair complexion, very light brown mustache, mild, thoughtful eyes, and a well-developed, polished brow. With his hat on his head, and it is often there, hiding his forehead, he looks like a mild, easy-going German who takes life easily and knows how to enjoy both lager beer and a good cigar ..."
see sketch here (use your imagination):
|Oct-22-08|| ||Karpova: <Max Weiss (quoted in Lasker's Chess Magazine, Volume III): |
“The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favored servant of the Golden Calf.”>
From Hans Ree's "Farewell, Jeroen Piket!", March 2003: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans8...
|May-06-10|| ||Marmot PFL: <He who hopes to learn the fine art of the game of chess from books will soon discover that only the opening and closing moves of the game admit of exhaustive systematic description, and that the endless variety of the moves which develop from the opening defies description; the gap left in the instructions can only be filled in by the zealous study of games fought out by master-hands.>|
Not Weiss, but his friend, Sigmund Freud (154 years old today). No games of his survive evidently, although I think he was a strong player for an amateur.
|May-30-11|| ||GrahamClayton: <Kean>Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank|
Some more information from the "Illustrated Sydney News", dated 21 June 1890, regarding Weiss's victory in the Kolisch tournament:
"In connection with the above it is interesting to note that Baron Rothschild, the famous banker of Vienna, has appointed the winner, Max Weiss, to a lucrative clerkship in his Austrian bank."
|Jul-21-12|| ||brankat: A very talented chess player indeed.
A quote attributed to M.Weiss:
"The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favoured servant of the Golden Calf."
To bad Max Weiss himself went to the Golden Half's service when still young.
|Jul-27-12|| ||Karpova: Max Weiss died of apoplexia.
He used to play against Moreno Heim with knight odds and for the last time on February 20, 1927. After winning this game he remained at the club and kibitzed a bit. After leaving, he never returned and the next thing they heard about him was the news of his death, one day aftwards. He seems to have been very silent and humble.
Source: Pages 89-91 of the 1927 '(Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung'
|Jul-21-13|| ||brankat: R.I.P. master Weiss.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||GENERALreplacesQ: Interesting that he always opened with the king's pawn like Fischer. In fact in those days e4 was the most popular|
|Jul-21-15|| ||JimNorCal: I once read a quote attributed to him but it isn't on the Internet and perhaps is apocryphal.|
It went something like this "There is no greater pleasure than to shut out the world and sit at a chess table with a steaming mug of coffee at one's elbow"
|Sep-29-15|| ||zanzibar: <JimNorCal> Can't argue with the sentiment.|
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Doing a quick look at the earliest Caro-Kann games. <CG> has this game:
Cochrane vs Somacarana, 1856
(missing from <MB>) which is followed by this game (first in <MB>):
Zukertort vs C Lehmann, 1864
But its real introduction, by a consistent practitioner of note, seems to be by Max Weiss, who played it several times in 1883 Nuremberg, e.g.
Gunsberg vs Max Weiss, 1883
Then Delmar and others picked it up, and Delmar (and later Macro) even played it as Black against Weiss in this early example:
Max Weiss vs E Delmar, 1889
|Jul-21-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Max Weiss.|
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