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Max Weiss
Number of games in database: 168
Years covered: 1880 to 1911
Overall record: +63 -32 =72 (59.3%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      1 exhibition game, odds game, etc. is excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (39) 
    C77 C67 C65 C82 C70
 French Defense (9) 
    C11 C14 C02 C00 C01
 Four Knights (8) 
    C49 C48
 Sicilian (7) 
    B34 B45 B24 B43 B25
 Ruy Lopez, Open (6) 
    C82 C80 C83
 French (4) 
    C11 C00
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (31) 
    C65 C67 C82 C66 C77
 French Defense (8) 
    C11 C00 C01 C13
 French (6) 
    C11 C00 C13
 Queen's Pawn Game (6) 
    D00 D05
 Vienna Opening (6) 
    C29 C25
 Ruy Lopez, Open (5) 
    C82 C80
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Blackburne vs Max Weiss, 1889 0-1
   Chigorin vs Max Weiss, 1882 0-1
   Max Weiss vs N MacLeod, 1889 1-0
   Max Weiss vs J Schwarz, 1883 1/2-1/2
   Tarrasch vs Max Weiss, 1887 0-1
   A Schottlaender vs Max Weiss, 1883 0-1
   Albin vs Max Weiss, 1890 0-1
   N MacLeod vs Max Weiss, 1889 0-1
   Gunsberg vs Max Weiss, 1889 0-1
   Max Weiss vs Chigorin, 1889 1/2-1/2

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Kolisch Memorial (1890)
   Hamburg (1885)
   Nuremberg (1883)
   Vienna (1882)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   New York 1889 by suenteus po 147
   My Short Notes I (2014) by Knight13
   My Short Notes II (2014) by Knight13
   1890 Kolisch Memorial by TheFocus
   Closer Look by Knight13

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(born Jul-21-1857, died Mar-14-1927, 69 years old) Austria

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Max (Miksa) Weiss, born in Sered*, had a short but brilliant chess career. He was 2nd= at Hamburg 1885, 2nd= at Frankfurt 1887 and 1st= with Mikhail Chigorin at New York 1889. He drew the subsequent play-off match (+0, =4, -0) to establish himself as one of the World's best players but then quit chess for a banking career. In 1895 he did play a match with Georg Marco and won (+5, =1, -1).

*Wikipedia article: Sere%C4%8F

Wikipedia article: Max Weiss

 page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 168  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. A Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½21 1880 Graz-tmC25 Vienna
2. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½31 1880 Graz plof-1plC49 Four Knights
3. E Schallopp vs Max Weiss  ½-½51 1880 GrazC11 French
4. J Noa vs Max Weiss 0-150 1880 GrazC67 Ruy Lopez
5. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz ½-½23 1880 GrazC11 French
6. Max Weiss vs J N Berger  1-040 1880 GrazA91 Dutch Defense
7. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½44 1880 GrazB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
8. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz  0-133 1880 Graz plof-1plA03 Bird's Opening
9. Max Weiss vs Wittek  ½-½41 1880 GrazC48 Four Knights
10. J Minckwitz vs Max Weiss  ½-½37 1880 Graz plof-1plC11 French
11. J Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½47 1880 GrazB06 Robatsch
12. Paulsen vs Max Weiss 1-035 1882 ViennaC47 Four Knights
13. Meitner vs Max Weiss 1-098 1882 ViennaC25 Vienna
14. Max Weiss vs Winawer  0-138 1882 ViennaC49 Four Knights
15. Englisch vs Max Weiss  ½-½37 1882 ViennaD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
16. Zukertort vs Max Weiss 0-156 1882 ViennaC00 French Defense
17. Chigorin vs Max Weiss 0-134 1882 ViennaC01 French, Exchange
18. Blackburne vs Max Weiss 0-161 1882 ViennaA06 Reti Opening
19. Max Weiss vs Steinitz  ½-½35 1882 ViennaC70 Ruy Lopez
20. Wittek vs Max Weiss  ½-½44 1882 ViennaC11 French
21. Max Weiss vs Paulsen ½-½29 1882 ViennaB24 Sicilian, Closed
22. Max Weiss vs Meitner  ½-½53 1882 ViennaC70 Ruy Lopez
23. Winawer vs Max Weiss ½-½142 1882 ViennaC13 French
24. J Noa vs Max Weiss  0-157 1882 ViennaB20 Sicilian
25. J Mason vs Max Weiss 1-035 1882 ViennaD00 Queen's Pawn Game
 page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 168  PGN Download
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Sep-20-04  percyblakeney: Max Weiss (1857-1927) shared first place with Chigorin in New York 1889 (on 29 points, no small tournaments in those days) and was offered a match against Steinitz for the World Championship, but declined:
Oct-15-04  Kean: An interesting player with another brief career in chess history. According with the supertournaments site, he also won latter the Kolisch Memorial in Vienna 1890, without a loss. "Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank. His solid chess precedes the style of Marco, Schlechter and Maróczy" They suggest that a match against Steinitz would have seen the best positional chess of those years.
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  Knight13: A strong player. Very strong player.
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  WannaBe: Giving up chess for banking career... Was that a Weiss move?
Aug-13-05  SneechLatke: This sure is a punny website.
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  Gypsy: It seems that Miksa (Max) Weiss also tied for first with Schechter in Vienna 1895. It was right Weiss wictory overy Marco. Other notable contestants included Englisch, Marco, Zinkl, Mendelbaum, Judd (US consul to Vienna), Schwarz, Halprin, Albin.
Apr-14-07  wolfmaster: Did anyone see the latest on Kasparov? He was fined for making an outbreak in Moscow about Russian politics. Brave guy,eh? :)
May-14-07  BNEW: Max Weiss in wikipedia:
Max Weiss in chessmetrics:
Look for Weiss Miksa
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  whiteshark: <Max Weiss> was !
Was ?
Dec-06-07  BIDMONFA: Max Weiss


Dec-06-07  MorphysMojo: Not only was Weiss high rated per chessmetrics, let it be known that he had plus scores against 19th century greats Zukertort, Chigorin and Janowski, with even scores against Tarrasch, Bird and Winawer. Yeah, I'd say he deserves recognition! With only 167 games in the DB he gets overlooked for the wrong reasons. His loss percentage of only 17% puts him in excellent company!
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  whiteshark: Player of the day.

It looks as if he is widely unknown / underestimated. Wise decision to do banking biz. Should do some investigations in the near future.

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  Knight13: He should've played in Hastings 1895. Then he would've gone down in chess history in a better picture.
Mar-13-08  wolfmaster: Weiss, I think, is the oldest player in the database with more draws than wins or losses. Interesting trivia.
Jul-21-08  brankat: An exceptionally talented chess player.

R.I.P. Master Weiss.

Aug-26-08  myschkin: . . .

Pen portraits of the participants in New York, 1889 were published on page 8 of the New York Times, 16 June 1889, under the heading <The Chessboard Kings - Ways and looks of 20 great players>:

"<Max Weiss> is one of the most careful and conservative chessplayers. In appearance he is a small-built man of fair complexion, very light brown mustache, mild, thoughtful eyes, and a well-developed, polished brow. With his hat on his head, and it is often there, hiding his forehead, he looks like a mild, easy-going German who takes life easily and knows how to enjoy both lager beer and a good cigar ..."

see sketch here (use your imagination):

Oct-22-08  Karpova: <Max Weiss (quoted in Lasker's Chess Magazine, Volume III):

“The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favored servant of the Golden Calf.”>

From Hans Ree's "Farewell, Jeroen Piket!", March 2003:

May-06-10  Marmot PFL: <He who hopes to learn the fine art of the game of chess from books will soon discover that only the opening and closing moves of the game admit of exhaustive systematic description, and that the endless variety of the moves which develop from the opening defies description; the gap left in the instructions can only be filled in by the zealous study of games fought out by master-hands.>

Not Weiss, but his friend, Sigmund Freud (154 years old today). No games of his survive evidently, although I think he was a strong player for an amateur.

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  GrahamClayton: <Kean>Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank

Some more information from the "Illustrated Sydney News", dated 21 June 1890, regarding Weiss's victory in the Kolisch tournament:

"In connection with the above it is interesting to note that Baron Rothschild, the famous banker of Vienna, has appointed the winner, Max Weiss, to a lucrative clerkship in his Austrian bank."

Jul-21-12  brankat: A very talented chess player indeed.

A quote attributed to M.Weiss:

"The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favoured servant of the Golden Calf."

To bad Max Weiss himself went to the Golden Half's service when still young.

Jul-27-12  Karpova: Max Weiss died of apoplexia.

He used to play against Moreno Heim with knight odds and for the last time on February 20, 1927. After winning this game he remained at the club and kibitzed a bit. After leaving, he never returned and the next thing they heard about him was the news of his death, one day aftwards. He seems to have been very silent and humble.

Source: Pages 89-91 of the 1927 '(Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung'

Jul-21-13  brankat: R.I.P. master Weiss.
Jul-21-13  GENERALreplacesQ: Interesting that he always opened with the king's pawn like Fischer. In fact in those days e4 was the most popular
Jul-21-15  JimNorCal: I once read a quote attributed to him but it isn't on the Internet and perhaps is apocryphal.

It went something like this "There is no greater pleasure than to shut out the world and sit at a chess table with a steaming mug of coffee at one's elbow"

Sep-29-15  zanzibar: <JimNorCal> Can't argue with the sentiment.

* * * * *

Doing a quick look at the earliest Caro-Kann games. <CG> has this game:

Cochrane vs Somacarana, 1856

(missing from <MB>) which is followed by this game (first in <MB>):

Zukertort vs C Lehmann, 1864

But its real introduction, by a consistent practitioner of note, seems to be by Max Weiss, who played it several times in 1883 Nuremberg, e.g.

Gunsberg vs Max Weiss, 1883

Then Delmar and others picked it up, and Delmar (and later Macro) even played it as Black against Weiss in this early example:

Max Weiss vs E Delmar, 1889

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