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| Jul-15-04 | | iron maiden: <Petrosian and Korchnoi met in 1971, with Petrosian winning> I know, but he only won by a single point. I think Korchnoi was in sufficient form in 1969 to enable him to beat Petrosian. That and the Tiger would have had a harder time using his "draw, draw and draw again until the last game where I will win" strategy in a longer match. Also, <Zenchess>, the Alekhine matches you mentioned against Fine, Keres and Botvinnik almost made my list, but the thing is, I'm fairly certain Alekhine would have lost any of them. I based my selections on matches whose results would have been unpredictable. While I very much would have liked to see Fine or Keres win the title, I think they were at the time stronger than Alekhine anyway, so we don't really need a match to settle that. |
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| Jul-15-04 | | iron maiden: <Returning to Korchnoi, one of the candidate's matches I would have liked to see was Fischer-Korchnoi, 1971. I feel Korchnoi, of all his rivals, had the best chance to defeat Fischer.> Now that I can't disagree with. He was a fighting player, and was one of a handful of players with even scores with him. Plus, he had the right opening repertoire: he adored the Winawer, which had eaten Fischer for breakfast up to that point. <tanginamo> I agree. A triangular tournament between Korchnoi, Fischer, and Karpov would be watched by the entire chess world. Go Korchnoi! <acirce> Good luck to you! If you do really well, you might just get that Kramnik match! :-) |
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| Jul-16-04 | | acirce: Thank you both. Leaving tonight. Yes, you never know, Kasparov might disregard Kasim and play me instead and then the road ahead should be clear. |
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| Jul-16-04 | | Gypsy: <Zenchess: FYI, Petrosian and Korchnoi met in 1971, with Petrosian winning.> According to "Russians vs Fischer", Petrosian got the nod of Soviet officials, instead of Korchnoi, as being the one having the better chance of the two to stop Fischer. The match was tied with one (two?) games left then. Korchnoi was alegedly rewarded for his cooperation by attendance of two Western tournaments of his choice. Petrosian later tried to get Korchnoi as a second for his Fischer match, but Korchnoi refused saying infamously something to the effect that Petrosian play was so boring and he (Korchnoi) could not possibly stay awake. These may have been the true origins of their 'beautiful friendship'. More WC matchess that should have been:
Lasker-Maroczy 1902
AAA-Flohr 1933
Euwe-Capablanca 1934
AAA-Capablanca 1936
AAA-Keres 1939
AAA-Fine 1940
AAA-Eliskases 1940-41
AAA-Botvinnik 1942
Botvinnik-Boleslavski 1949 |
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| Jul-16-04 | | tanginamo: <iron_maiden> Korchnoi is too strong of a GM for his age, i believe he might even beat Fischer in a match if they play say this year or next year. the young Vallejo didn't beat convincingly the old Korchnoi in their match. Karpov might even have second thoughts to play Korchnoi now. Korchnoi still plays fighting chess while Karpov became overly pragmatic as he got older. please don't get me wrong (Fischer & Karpov fans), i like Fischer, Karpov, & Korchnoi equally. this is just my humble opinion. |
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| Jul-16-04 | | iron maiden: Hey, I'd be rooting for Korchnoi too. He's still got the fire. I hope he'd pound Fischer and his crazy racist notations into the ground, and I wouldn't bet against it. |
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| Jul-16-04 | | iron maiden: Typo: "notations" should have been "notions". It's way past bedtime. |
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| Jul-16-04 | | tanginamo: i believe Korchnoi is always willing to play a match with both Fischer & Karpov, and Karpov's the same too. but Fischer only likes to play a match with......Spassky, because he knows he's going to win..lol! |
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| Jul-16-04 | | tud: IronMaiden, winners in tournaments don't count (look at the beast Larsen in 1967-1968 and look to our weak Petrosian guy when it''s about the tournaments). Lasker met Capablanca many times between 1921 and 1936 and he lost 6 games (in 1924 with a brilliancy prize) and won one (the last one). It's hard to promote the guy as a real contender in that period when Capa would loose only if he would beat himself. Like mr. Keene said, the complicated play (Nimzowitsch, Bogoliubov and I would say Lasker) did not work with Capablanca. With Pillsbury , right, probably before 1900 would have been interesting. I think Pillsbury has a positive record against Lasker. |
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Jul-16-04
 | | Joshka: I went to the Quebec Open site that starts in a day or two...Korchnoi will be playing and giving simuls. |
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Jul-23-04
 | | Zenchess: Korchnoi's winning with 5 1/2 out of 6.
Gypsy, I guess if we were playwrights we could cast the story of Korchnoi & Petrosian as a morality play of some kind. Petrosian's play could represent living death (all those 10-20 move draws!), while Korchnoi's play represents eternal youth; he outlives not only Petrosian but the entire Soviet system. This year could be Viktor's hour of triumph as he wins tournament after tournament at 73 (Beersheba, Hungary and about to win Quebec Open). |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Gypsy: There would be quality material for drama here, <Zenchess>, that is for sure. The most tragicomic character of the play would probably be Mark Taimanov: Alegedly he bought his last .5-point into the Candidate Matches from Matulovich. Then the fate rewarded Taimanov with Fischer in Vancouver. Given how much grief that got Taimanov, somebody here remarked before me, the investment in Matulovich was not money well spent! (Taimanov did pull his life together quite impressively after the aparatchiks thought he was done for. I am rooting for him.) |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Gypsy: And as for Korchnoi: Go Victor!! |
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Jul-23-04
| | Joshka: Wonderful news on Korchnoi!! |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Lawrence: <Zenchess>, I see what you mean. In this database Petrosian has 445 draws (!) with 22 moves or fewer. And some people criticise Kramnik. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | OneBadDog: Regardless of Korchnoi's playing style (which I deeply admire), his persistant search for beauty and truth at the chess board, his fighting spirit, and his competitive longetivity should be an inspiration to us all. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Everett: OneBadDog, completely agree. Just wish he could do all that without thinking about it for so long. The clock was his greatest enemy, next to Karpov. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | OneBadDog: I think that when it came to competing for the World Championship, Korchnoi suffered from both bad luck and the enimity of The Soviet Chess Machine. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | iron maiden: Oh, come on. When did Korchnoi suffer from the "enimity of the Soviet Chess Machine?" Or are you talking about after he left the USSR? |
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| Jul-23-04 | | OneBadDog: I was referring to the '78 match. The dirty tricks on the part of the Soviets are well documented. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | CrackerSmack: Playing with white in the Marx Gyoergy Chess Memorial 2004 Korchnoi was blown away in 27 moves time to quit grandad. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Marquis De Sade: <crackersmak> not the first time Korchnoi's lost in 27. So what. The old guy would smack your cracker, little man. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | iron maiden: And he'd probably take a heck of a lot less than 27 moves. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | CrackerSmack: He'd be made to look like an over the hill has-been, which wouldn't be the first time. |
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| Jul-23-04 | | Calchexas: <CrackerSmack> You keep bragging about how good you are, but you don't give us proof. Why is that? |
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