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FSR
Member since Aug-27-05 · Last seen Oct-12-25
I am Frederick Rhine. The United States Chess Federation awarded me the titles of National Master (at OTB chess) in 1983, and Senior Master of Correspondence Chess in 1997. In February 2024, less than a year after I began playing in the ICCF, it awarded me the title of Correspondence Chess Master. It looks like later this year I will qualify for the title of International Correspondence Chess Master.

As of September 2025, I am the second highest rated USCF correspondence chess player, just three rating points behind Gordon Magat. https://www.uschess.org/assets/top_...

The August 2020 issue of Chess Life magazine had a profile of me (for the text, see Frederick Rhine (my August 1, 2020 comment in the forum)).

I played in the 1997 USCF Absolute Championship (open to the top 13 correspondence players who accept their invitations), scoring 6-6 (+2 =8 -2). The late Alex Dunne wrote in his book on the Absolute Championships, "This was Rhine's only Absolute and he held his own against the best. His two losses were against previous Absolute winners." http://bit.ly/1NB55YP That book contains my games F Rhine vs R Lifson, 1997 and F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997.

But the 1997 event was not my only Absolute. I have also played in the 2023-25 events. In the 2023 edition, I drew all 12 games. That was enough to tie for second! Unlike the 1997 event, this one was under ICCF auspices and allowed the use of engines. There was only one decisive game! https://www.iccf.com/event?id=101114 In the 2024 Absolute, I have ten draws and a win(!), with just one game left, which will very likely be drawn. https://www.iccf.com/event?id=105325 This time +1 will probably only be enough to tie for fourth. In the 2025 Absolute, I have drawn all twelve games. So far there are no decisive games in the event.

I have played first board for the Rogue Squadron in the Chicago Industrial Chess League. I have played online for the Shropshire & Friends team in the 4 Nations Chess League (4NCL), and the Oswestry team in the Shropshire League.

I attended Lane Technical High School in Chicago with the late Chessgames.com co-founder Alberto A Artidiello until he moved out of Chicago. Lane's chess team won the Illinois state championship my junior and senior years, becoming the first school ever to win consecutive championships. Albert also became a master, as did my teammates Kenneth Mohr and Christopher Kus. The late FIDE Masters Albert Charles Chow and Morris Giles were also Laneites.

In July 2013, I played in my second and third regular-rated tournaments of the millennium(!), the Greater Midwest Classic and the Chicago Class (under-2200 section). I tied for second, undefeated, in both, winning $700 and $550, respectively, and brought my rating back over 2200. http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j... http://www.uschess.org/assets/msa_j...

I have contributed to hundreds of chess-related articles on Wikipedia under the handle Krakatoa, notably "First-move advantage in chess," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-... "George H. D. Gossip," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George... and "Swindle (chess)," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_..., all of which are almost entirely written by me. The first two of those have been Today's Featured Article, the highest honor a Wikipedia article can receive, one attained by about one out of every 1,400 articles. I have received various Wikipedia awards, including the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels and the Timeless Imperial Triple Crown (which only 12 Wikipedians have received). My user page is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:K.... Al Lawrence in the aforementioned Chess Life article referred to my "erudite chess articles on Wikipedia." Chess historian Edward Winter in his article "Wikipedia and Chess" commended my Wikipedia articles on Gossip and Hugh Edward Myers. (The latter article is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_....) https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

I am the editor and proofreader of the book "Tournament Battle Plan: Optimize Your Chess Results!" by Daniel Gormally. I was the proofreader of the book "Triple Exclam!!! The Life and Games of Emory Tate, Chess Warrior" by Daaim Shabazz.

I was a contributor to the now-defunct Chicago Chess Blog, http://chicagochess.blogspot.com. I discovered, and documented in my blog post https://chicagochess.blogspot.com/2..., what Taylor Kingston calls "the Mortimer Effect," which has lowered the Morphy Numbers of many modern players (maybe you!). https://chesscafe.com/the-skittles-... I have a Morphy Number of 4 by virtue of L Barden vs F Rhine, 2010 as well as two simul games I lost to Arthur Bisguier when I was in high school.

Six hundred and forty-four of my games are in chessgames.com's database. My favorites are F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981, K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992, and F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996, each of which has been Game of the Day. Rhine-Sprenkle was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 32) and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (2nd ed.) at 183 n.19). In Volume 33 of Chess Informant, my 18th move (18.Nxd6!) in that game was voted the 8th-9th most important theoretical novelty in Volume 32. The game was also cited in MCO-13 and "The Aggressive Nimzowitsch Sicilian 2...Nf6" by Eric Schiller, and occupies an entire chapter in all three editions of "Beating the Sicilian" by John Nunn. It is game 218 in "1000 TN!! The Best Theoretical Novelties" (Chess Informant, 2012). Anish Giri, in his 2023 Chessable course "Lifetime Repertoires: Giri's 1. e4 - Part 3" recommends this line for White. https://www.chessable.com/lifetime-... Following my game against Sprenkle, he writes after 22.Be3, "The computer evaluates this as completely hopeless for Black and it is. Our king is in fact much safer, thanks to our much better pieces." https://www.chessable.com/learn/159... More than 40 years after I played the game, my line still kicks ass!


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Thompson-Rhine was published with my annotations in Chess Informant (Volume 57), and cited in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (Vol. B (3rd ed.) at 172 n.163). Jeremy Silman discusses the game and my analysis of it in his book "Winning with the Sicilian Defence" (2nd ed.).

Probably the best game I have ever played is the astonishing F Rhine vs B Lemke, 2025, but it's too deep for me to understand. It was an ICCF game and I was greatly assisted by Stockfish 17.1 (which is legal on ICCF). I doubt that any unaided human could have played that game.

Joel Johnson in his book "Attacking 101: Volume #005" says of my blitz game F Rhine vs NN, 2019, "White played a flawless Smith-Morra Gambit that IM Marc Esserman would have been proud of." Georges Koltanowski published F Rhine vs A Artidiello, 1974 in his syndicated newspaper column. Richard Palliser discusses the opening of F Rhine vs S Nagle, 1997 in his book "tango!"

I have played some theoretically significant correspondence games in the Damiano Variation of Petroff's Defense (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4!?), demonstrating that Black's third move, commonly regarded as a blunder, is fully playable. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... Nikolaos Ntirlis analyzes two of my games in an article on the variation in Volume 158 of Chess Informant. Cyrus Lakdawala and Carsten Hansen include five of my games in their book on the line, "None Shall Pass: The Unbeatable Damiano Petroff: A tricky and surprisingly solid defense."

Jacob Aagaard analyzes the endings of two of my Internet blitz games in his 896-page tome "A Matter of Endgame Technique" (alas, mine was lacking). Cyrus Lakdawala includes my study-like win in F Rhine vs A Zhao, 2019 in his book "Tactical Training in the Endgame." He also mentions me, albeit not by name, in his book "In the Zone: The Greatest Winning Streaks in Chess History" when he refers to "The Classical Sicilian, which as one of my atheist students told me, is the closest thing he has to a religion." Cyrus analyzes my game against Gadir Guseinov in his book "The Makogonov Variation: A ruthless King's Indian killer."

Commentator Mato Jelic somewhat extravagantly calls my game E Sollano vs F Rhine, 1977 "The Greatest Ever Blitz Game Played in Chicago." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl8... See also Suren's analysis at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa... My 7...Bxc5!! in that game, played the year before Boris Avrukh was born, is a big improvement on the flaccid 7...Bg6, his recommendation in the book "Beating 1.d4 Sidelines" (2012).

Someone also made a video (moves only) of J Aagaard vs F Rhine, 2021, a 2-1 bullet game where I drew and should've beaten the grandmaster - if only I'd had time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-O... Someone else (or perhaps two different people) did a video (moves only) of Tal vs F Rhine, 1988, my loss to the great Mikhail Tal in a simul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfk... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3o... The latter refers to me as a "great grandmaster!" which isn't quite accurate . . .

User: JimmyVermeer discusses my games NN vs F Rhine, 2021, P Pantelidakis vs F Rhine, 1974, and P Napetschnig vs F Rhine, 1977 in his video "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 10 of 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GT... The sequel "The 109 fastest checkmates in chess history, part 11 of 11," contains a Fool's Mate I played, which I had mentioned in a comment on this site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Z... Napetschnig-Rhine is also mentioned in https://www.chess.com/terms/fools-m.... Rick Kennedy discusses my game F Rhine vs NN, 2018 on his Jerome Gambit blog. https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... My game F Rhine vs NN, 2010 is mentioned in the "Checkmate Patterns Course" by Raf Mesotten and John Bartholomew on chessable.com.

I composed this study, which Pal Benko published in "Benko's Bafflers" in Chess Life, May 2006:

White to play and draw


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The solution is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stale... It is based on an earlier study of mine, also published in Benko's column. Both compositions also appear in Harold van der Heijden's endgame study database. https://www.chess.com/news/view/76-... The above study is also cited in "The Complete Chess Swindler" by David Smerdon and "Rewire Your Chess Brain: Endgame Studies and Mating Problems to Enhance Your Tactical Ability" by Cyrus Lakdawala.

I was once one of the world's best players at suicide chess (also known as "losing chess"), a chess variant where one wins by giving away all of one's pieces. http://perpetualcheck.com/antichess...

I have successfully submitted 240 puns for Game of the Day. Game Collection: Puns I submitted. User: johnlspouge has remarked, "As far as I can tell, <FSR> is churning out 'actual puns' almost as fast as I can [insert bodily function of choice]." K Tjolsen vs S Marder, 2010. The coveted 2013 Caissar for Best (Worst) Pun went to "Control-Ault-Delete," the pun I submitted for Fischer vs R Ault, 1959, the Game of the Day on December 19, 2012. I won the 2019 Caissar in the same category for my greatest pun ever (and IMO one of the greatest chessgames puns ever) "Late December Back in '63: What a Lady, What a Knight!," N Littlewood vs B Brinck-Claussen, 1963, the Game of the Day on December 30, 2019. Since Caissars are awarded in January, my wins may illustrate recency bias.

Nine of my games have been Game of the Day: NN vs F Rhine, 1977 ("Strangers on a Train"), F Rhine vs F Lasch, 1986 ("Lasch Call"), K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992 ("Like a Rhinestone Cowboy"), R Delaune vs F Rhine, 1997 ("Red Red Rhine"), F Rhine vs D Burris, 1997 ("Fred Rhine Felled"), F Felecan vs F Rhine, 2019 ("Felecan Brief"), F Rhine vs D Sprenkle, 1981 ("Sparkling Rhine"), F Rhine vs A Boerkoel, 1996 ("Das Rhinegold"), and F Rhine vs NN, 2018 ("'Twas the Night Before Christmas"). Six wins, a draw, and two losses.

I am responsible for World Junior Championship (1957), Vidmar Memorial (1969), Carlsen - Anand World Championship Match (2014), Game Collection: Drawing lines, and 32nd Correspondence World Championship (2020), among others. Legendary chess journalist Leonard Barden recently told me in an email, "I follow your many thoughtful contributions to chessgames.com with interest."

I am a member of the ChessBookie Hall of Fame, having finished fourth in the Summer 2015 Leg, seventh in the Winter 2016 Championship Leg, ninth in the Winter 2017 Championship Leg, ninth in the Spring 2017 Leg, and seventh in the Summer 2017 Leg.

I am very active on Chessable, where my handle is "Krakatoa." https://www.chessable.com/profile/K... I am a "Legend" and have 134 badges, five shy of the world record held by Maestro. https://www.chessable.com/badges/Ma...

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   Oct-11-25 Chessgames - Politics (replies)
 
FSR: Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker ruled Floyd's death a homicide. He concluded that the actions of Chauvin and the other police officers were the primary cause of Floyd's death. <George Floyd’s heart disease and use of fentanyl were contributing factors to his
 
   Oct-11-25 Portoroz Interzonal (1958)
 
FSR: <avenant69: . . . Fischer, who systematically drew against the top dogs but crushed the lesser ones> Fischer later honed rabbit-bashing to an art form. At the Stockholm Interzonal (1962) , he scored +3=8 against the players who finished 2nd through 12th, but +10=1 against the ...
 
   Oct-11-25 B Gurgenidze vs Klovans, 1959 (replies)
 
FSR: Very sweet. I saw Bxh6, but not the follow-up.
 
   Oct-11-25 FSR chessforum
 
FSR: Submitted: [Event "2nd DSM 0-2750 G (BUL)"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2025.08.10"] [EventDate "2025.08.10"] [Round "-"] [White "Rhine, Frederick"] [Black "Mondry, Matthias"] [ECO "B31"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "2349"] [BlackElo "2390"] [Source " ...
 
   Oct-10-25 M Chan vs F Rhine, 2025 (replies)
 
FSR: <Sally Simpson> I'm not sure.
 
   Oct-10-25 Chessgames - Sports (replies)
 
FSR: Wow. The Cubs beat the Brewers 6-0 to tie the series.
 
   Oct-10-25 A Karklins vs G Small, 1986
 
FSR: Karklins is good at trapping queens. The month before, he played A Karklins vs Dlugy, 1986 .
 
   Oct-08-25 Yermolinsky vs Kudrin, 2000
 
FSR: Hard to believe this game. 11.O-O-O?? (the only instance of this move in the database) is madness, and I can't believe that Yermolinsky played it, or that Kudrin failed to win against it. Circa 1980, the young Albert Charles Chow did something very similar against Jammie Gregory, who ...
 
   Oct-08-25 J Engel vs I Zuyev, 2019
 
FSR: An odd little game. Not surprisingly, 11.f4? was never seen again.
 
   Oct-08-25 R Har-Zvi vs N Nikolic, 1993
 
FSR: Probably the moves 6.Nc3 d6 were omitted. It's unlikely that Har-Zvi hung a pawn with 6.Be2? and Nikolic didn't take it.
 
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Jul-04-13  Shams: This line (KID where white plays g4) has been giving me fits. Bill Schill has played it against me two weeks in a row at the club and just starved me of counterplay. Any ideas?

Opening Explorer

Jul-04-13  Shams: I guess there's this, but I don't exactly style myself after John Nunn...

Pinter vs Nunn, 1988

Jul-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just submitted this game. This time, I managed not to claim that Steinitz was one of the players.

[Event "Bashkortostan-ch sf"]
[Site "Maloyaz"]
[Date "2011.04.14"]
[EventDate "2011.04.12"]
[Round "6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Sultanov, Valeriy"]
[Black "Kamaletdinov, Shamil"]
[ECO "D21"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "41"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c4 dxc4 4. d5 Nb8 5. Nc3 e6 6. e4 exd5 7. Qxd5 Qxd5 8. Nxd5 Kd7 9. Bxc4 h6 10. Ne5+ Ke6 11. Bf4 Nf6 12. Nxc7+ Ke7 13. Nxa8 Nxe4 14. Nxf7 Rg8 15. Bxb8 Bd7 16. O-O Bc6 17. f3 Nf6 18. Rfe1+ Kd7 19. Be6+ Ke7 20. Bd6+ Ke8 21. Nc7# 1-0

Comment: This game ends with the very rare "rainbow of bishops and knights" checkmate, as in Dodge vs J R Houghteling, 1904.

Jul-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just submitted this:

[Event "blitz"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2007.09.10"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "NN"]
[Black "Max Wahlund"]
[ECO "C07"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.exd5 Qxd5 5.Ngf3 cxd4 6.Bc4 Qd6 7.Nb3 Nf6 8.Nbxd4 Nc6 9.Nb5 Qxd1+ 10.Kxd1 Kd7 11.Ng5 Nd8 12.Ke2 a6 13.Rd1+ Ke7 14.Nc7 Rb8 15.Bf4 Nc6 16.Bd6+ Kd7 17.Nxf7 Rg8 18.Bxe6#

Source: http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/... Another "rainbow of bishops and knights" game.

Jul-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: I just submitted this:

[Event "Weymouth Open"]
[Site "Weymouth, England"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[EventDate "1989.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Clark"]
[Black "Burgess, Graham"]
[ECO "B03"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.f4 dxe5 6.fxe5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Nc3 exd5 9.cxd5 c4 10.d6 Nc6 11.Bf4 g5 12.Ne4 gxf4 13.Nf6+ Qxf6 14.exf6 Be6 15.Nf3 O-O-O 16.Be2 Bxd6 17.a3 Rhg8 18.Qc2 Bc5 19.Rd1 Rxd1+ 20.Kxd1 Nd5 21.Kc1 Ne3 22.Qe4 Rxg2 23.Re1 Na5 24.Nd2 c3 25.b4 cxd2+ 26.Kxd2 Nb3+ 27.Kc3 Bd4+ 28.Kd3 Bc4#

Comment: This is another "rainbow of bishops and knights" game. Source: http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/...

Jul-04-13  hedgeh0g: <This is hilarious. The Great One posted this on A J Goldsby:...>

*facepalm*

Jul-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: POST 1 OF 2

<Shams> Bill Schill! Talk about a blast from the past. I met him at the 1979 U.S. Open in Chicago, where I took a buck off him at a quarter a game in four straight games of dice chess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice_c... I saw him again at at least one tournament out here; I remember him commenting on Winton Fulk 's wretched directing of it.

Short answer: the King's Indian is a bad defense. Play 3...d5! instead. Seriously. If you think it's hard playing against the g4 line, take a look at 4.e4 d6 5.h3! 0-0 6.Bg5! Opening Explorer shows White scoring almost 64%. He does even better in Mega Database 2013 (64.6%). The Englund Gambit scores better, for Pete's sake. http://chicagochess.blogspot.com/20...

OK, let's see what to do if you <must> play the King's Indian. Unfortunately, I have no recent books on the Black's side of it, I suppose because I wouldn't be caught dead playing it. The most recent book I have is Nunn and Burgess' <The New Classical King's Indian> (1997!). The authors advocated 11...Kh8, rather than the line you linked to (11...Nf6 12.Nd3 c6), which as I recall was the line Larry Evans advocated long ago in <The Chess Opening for You>. I see in Mega Database 2013 that the moves are played almost equally often, but 11...Kh8 scores much better (50.4% for White in 348 games, as against 11...Nf6, which gives White 59.0% in 343 games). Here is one game where Black seems to have played in a theoretically approved way against 12.Be3, White's most popular move (104 games), which scores a wretched 41.7% for White:

[Event "Oberliga NRW 9900 II"]
[Site "Germany"]
[Date "2000.03.01"]
[Round "6.6"]
[White "Schacht, Egbert"]
[Black "Ahn, Martin"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "2215"]
[BlackElo "2305"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. d4 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. f3 f5 11. g4 Kh8 12. Be3 Ng8 13. Qd2 f4 14. Bf2 h5 15. h3 Bf6 16. Nd3 Bh4 17. Qe1 Bxf2+ 18. Qxf2 Rf7 19. Kg2 Rh7 20. Rh1 Nf8 21. c5 g5 22. b4 Ng6 23. a4 Nf6 24. a5 a6 25. cxd6 Nh4+ 26. Kf1 cxd6 27. Rc1 Bd7 28. Qb6 Qf8 29. Nb2 Rc8 30. Nc4 Nxf3 31. Kf2 Nd4 32. Nxd6 Rxc3 33. Rxc3 hxg4 34. Nf5 Nxe4+ 35. Kg2 f3+ 0-1

Here's another game, one of the few recent ones in this line:

[Event "EU-ch 13th"]
[Site "Plovdiv"]
[Date "2012.03.22"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Cherednichenko, Svetlana"]
[Black "Djukic, Nikola"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[BlackElo "2513"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. Nc3 O-O 5. e4 d6 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3 f5 11. Bd2 Kh8 12. f3 f4 13. g4 Bf6 14. Be1 Ng8 15. Bf2 h5 16. h3 Bh4 17. Qe1 Bxf2+ 18. Qxf2 Rf7 19. Kg2 Rh7 20. Rh1 g5 21. b4 Nf8 22. Rag1 a5 23. b5 b6 24. Kf1 Ng6 25. Ke1 Bd7 26. Kd2 Nf6 27. Kc2 Qe7 28. Ne1 Kg7 29. Qf1 Rah8 30. Nd1 Kf7 31. Nf2 Qd8 32. Kb2 Rh6 33. Ned3 R8h7 34. Kc2 Qh8 35. Qd1 Nf8 36. Qf1 Be8 37. Qd1 N8d7 38. Qa1 Kf8 39. Qe1 Bg6 40. Kb2 Kf7 41. Qf1 hxg4 42. hxg4 Rxh1 43. Rxh1 Rxh1 44. Qxh1 Qxh1 45. Nxh1 Bxe4 46. fxe4 Nxe4 47. Ndf2 Nec5 48. Nh3 Kf6 49. N1f2 e4 50. Kc3 f3 51. Bd1 e3 52. Bxf3 exf2 53. Nxf2 Ke5 54. Nh3 Kf6 55. Kd4 Ne5 56. Be2 Ng6 57. Ke3 Na4 58. Bd1 Nc3 59. Bb3 a4 60. Bc2 Ne5 61. Nf2 Nxa2 62. Ne4+ Ke7 63. Bxa4 Nxc4+ 64. Kd4 Ne5 65. Nxg5 Nxg4 66. Ne6 Kd7 67. Nf8+ Kc8 68. Ng6 Ne5 69. Nf4 Nd7 70. Bb3 Nc1 71. Bc2 Nc5 72. Kc3 Na2+ 73. Kb2 Nb4 74. Bf5+ Kb7 75. Ka3 Nxd5 76. Nxd5 c6 77. Ne7 cxb5 78. Kb4 Na6+ 79. Kxb5 Nc7+ 80. Kc4 b5+ 81. Kb4 Kb6 82. Nc8+ Kc6 83. Ne7+ Kb6 84. Nc8+ Kc6 85. Ne7+ 1/2-1/2

Here's a fairly recent high-level game against 12.Nd3 (67 games, scoring 50.7%):

[Event "EU-Cup 25th"]
[Site "Ohrid"]
[Date "2009.10.10"]
[Round "7.3"]
[White "Sakaev, Konstantin"]
[Black "Bologan, Viktor"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "2625"]
[BlackElo "2688"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. Nc3 O-O 5. e4 d6 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. f3 f5 11. g4 Kh8 12. Nd3 Ng8 13. Kh1 a5 14. Rg1 f4 15. Bd2 Bf6 16. a3 b6 17. b4 Bh4 18. Be1 Bxe1 19. Qxe1 g5 20. Qf2 Rf7 21. c5 h5 22. h3 Rh7 23. Kg2 bxc5 24. bxc5 Ne7 25. c6 Nf6 26. Kf1 Qg8 27. Qe1 hxg4 28. hxg4 Rh2 29. Rg2 Rh1+ 30. Rg1 Rh2 31. Rg2 Rh1+ 32. Rg1 1/2-1/2

Jul-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: POST 2 OF 2

13.h4 is only third most popular for some reason (59 games), but scores an impressive 61.9%. Black's most popular response is 13...Ng8 (32 games), when 14.g5! tends to squish him (77.5% in 20 games). FWIW, the rarely played 13...c6 is one of the few moves to score well, but in a very small sample size (White scores 35.7% in 7 games), so take it with a big grain of salt.

Here are a couple of fairly recent high-level games:

[Event "Elista FIDE GP"]
[Site "Elista"]
[Date "2008.12.23"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Eljanov, Pavel"]
[Black "Radjabov, Teimour"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "2720"]
[BlackElo "2751"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. f3 f5 11. g4 Kh8 12. h4 c6 13. Kg2 Nf6 14. Nd3 b5 15. b3 Rb8 16. Nf2 b4 17. Na4 Bb7 18. Bg5 Qd7 19. Qd2 cxd5 20. cxd5 Neg8 21. Rac1 Ba8 22. Qc2 Rf7 23. Qd3 Ne7 24. Kg1 h5 25. Bxf6 Rxf6 26. g5 fxe4 27. fxe4 Rf4 28. Rc4 Rxh4 29. Qg3 Rf4 30. Nd3 Bxd5 31. exd5 Rxc4 32. bxc4 Qxa4 33. c5 Qxa2 34. cxd6 Nf5 35. Rxf5 Qxe2 36. Rf2 Qe4 37. d7 Qxd5 38. Kh2 Kh7 39. Rf6 Qxd7 40. Nxe5 Qd2+ 0-1

[Event "EU-Cup 25th"]
[Site "Ohrid"]
[Date "2009.10.07"]
[Round "4.1"]
[White "Laznicka, Viktor"]
[Black "Nakamura, Hikaru"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "2634"]
[BlackElo "2735"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. Nc3 d6 5. e4 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. f3 f5 11. g4 Kh8 12. h4 c6 13. Ng2 Nf6 14. a4 a5 15. Rf2 Bd7 16. Be3 Rc8 17. Ra3 c5 18. Bd2 b6 19. Ra1 Neg8 20. Ne3 Qe7 21. Rh2 h6 22. Bd3 fxg4 23. fxg4 Nh7 24. Ng2 Rf7 25. Be2 Rcf8 26. Qe1 Qd8 27. Qg3 Qc8 28. g5 h5 29. Rf1 Qe8 30. Rxf7 Rxf7 31. b3 Ne7 32. Ne1 Nc8 33. Rf2 Rxf2 34. Qxf2 Kg8 35. Nb5 Nf8 36. Nc2 Qf7 37. Qxf7+ Kxf7 38. Ne3 Ke7 39. Nf1 Kd8 40. Ng3 Be8 41. Kf2 Nd7 42. Bf3 Nb8 43. Be3 Na6 44. Ke2 Nc7 45. Nc3 Bf7 46. Kf2 Ne8 47. Bc1 Bf8 48. Nce2 Ng7 49. Bb2 Ne8 50. Nc1 Nc7 51. Ke3 Ne7 52. Nd3 Bg7 53. Bd1 Na6 54. Nf2 Nb4 55. Nfh1 Ke8 56. Bc3 Bf8 57. Be1 Bg7 58. Kd2 Kf8 59. Bf3 Ke8 60. Bd1 1/2-1/2

Since I'm not a King's Indian man, that's all the insight I can offer. Hope that helps.

Jul-04-13  Shams: <FSR> Thank you very much for all that work. You know, I'll tell you, I'm not at all wedded to the KID and have been thinking of taking up the Grunfeld as you recommend. I suppose I should get my desired repertoire straight before I impose upon you with opening questions.

I'll mention your name to Schill next week. Cheers.

Jul-04-13
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  FSR: <Shams> You're welcome. The generic King's Indian (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4) scores 57.45% for White. Opening Explorer He gets 54.85% against the Gruenfeld. Opening Explorer And as I say, White's score reaches alarming proportions - close to 65% - if he plays 5.h3! 0-0 6.Bg5! against the King's Indian. That is a monster score, one that White rarely achieves against respectable openings.
Jul-04-13  Everyone: I'm convinced that <Goldsby> is an apparition invented by the alCIAda to disturb my sleep.
Jul-04-13  hedgeh0g: <FSR> I'm not going to deny that the King's Indian has a questionable reputation at the top level, but I think it ultimately boils down to style. Not everyone is prepared to sit out a QGD/Slav as Black and, while potentially risky, the KID does promise Black counterchances, even if they may be outweighed by White's chances. Nobody is denying Lasker's Defence <scores objectively better> than the KID, but variations in players' styles mean some players are simply going to be better at playing the resulting positions than others.

Also, while it's true that the KID has suffered somewhat at the top level, I doubt that the same holds true at club/open level, where opening knowledge takes more of a backseat to tactical ability and positional understanding.

Jul-04-13
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  FSR: <hedgeh0g> It is certainly important to play openings one is comfortable with. Even if the French outscored the Sicilian (which it certainly doesn't), I wouldn't necessarily take it up. I don't like cramped positions, and I'd also be loath to allow much lower-rated players to play the Exchange Variation against me. Some things I consider in deciding on an opening:

How well do I like the positions I get from the opening?

How does the opening score (generally, and against specific variations)? What is the breakdown of wins/draws/losses? (Actual example: in a correspondence tournament, two of my opponents played the Richter-Rauzer against me, and I played this line - Opening Explorer - against it. The line at the time had scored 55.55% for Black - incredible, huh? But that consisted of eight draws and one win for Black! Not surprisingly, my games, against opponents rated something like 100 and 300 points below me, also ended in draws. Maybe not the best choice of variation by me.)

Are there lines my opponent can play that I'm really afraid of? How likely is my opponent to play those lines?

Are there lines that are either very drawish or where my opponent has all the winning chances? How likely is my opponent to play those lines?

Jul-04-13  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <FSR>--You may be interested to note that The Great One has recently mentioned something he calls "The Goldsby Position," which he says is well known. I searched Google Images for The Goldsby Position and found this:

http://blog.bellator.com/wp-content...

Jul-04-13
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  FSR: <GSM> LOL. The Great One refers to an article of his, http://www.angelfire.com/games4/lif..., about The Goldsby Position. To be precise, it's about two positions: <The "Goldsby" Position> (also referred to as <The "Goldsby Position"> and <"The actual GOLDSBY Position">. (There are curly brackets around GOLDSBY, but Chessgames won't display those.) The latter (actual GOLDSBY) position is a Q v. R ending where the side with the rook is immediately getting mated or losing the rook. The former (Goldsby) position is this:


click for larger view

In his article, The Great One explains his brilliant winning move 1.Qg6("!!"). The tablebases will tell you that this is tied for being White's 13th-17th best move. http://www.shredderchess.com/online... There are two queen moves (1.Qb4+ and 1.Qc5+) that force a win in 18 moves, another 10 queen moves that force a win in 20 moves, 5 moves (including 1.Qg6!!) that force a win in 21 moves, 3 king moves (all of which take over 21 moves to win), and then the queen moves that hang the queen and thus don't win at all. So you could say that Goldsby's 1.Qg6(!!) is tied for being the worst queen move that doesn't actually throw away the win. The Great One has a strange addendum where he gives the computer analysis of 1.Qb4+ as winning in 18. He nonetheless considers the computer's analysis inferior because his own original analysis showed the side with the queen winning the rook faster than in the computer's line. He omits mention of the fact that his original analysis was wrong, since he erroneously considered 1...Rd1 to be the most tenacious defense to 1.Qg6, but in fact 1...Kd8 holds out much longer (as he now admits).

Jul-04-13
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  OhioChessFan: I went to the Nalimov tables here, http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=... and found the same thing. It's hardly surprising Qb4+ and Qc5+ lead to the quickest mate. Any decent club player would choose one of them. And likewise, Kd8 is obviously the best try for Black. From that point, Black lasts 20 moves. After Rd1, he lasts 10. So the Florida Fischer chose twice as bad a defense as the optimum.
Jul-04-13  The Last Straw: There's a city in Oklahoma named Goldsby.

I'm pretty sure someting is wrong with their crime rate.

Jul-04-13
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  perfidious: <OhioChessFan:....(T)he Florida Fischer chose twice as bad a defense as the optimum.>

That is truly impressive-sounds like the outcome of numerous time scrambles in which I indulged, back in the day.

Jul-04-13
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  FSR: <The Last Straw> Why, so there is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldsb...
Jul-04-13
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  perfidious: <The Last Straw: There's a city in Oklahoma named Goldsby.>

Would have sworn you were having us on, but truth is truth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldsb...

If the man waxes nostalgic for copious daily helpings of balm of ego, he could always move from Hurricane Central to Tornado Alley.

Jul-04-13  Shams: <FSR> So, Schill was playing 1.c4 against me and only d2-d4 later to get into the KID. An anti-Grunfeld move order I suppose. What do you play against the English? I've toyed with 1...b6 before but I don't really believe in it.
Jul-04-13
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  perfidious: <hedgeh0g....Also, while it's true that the KID has suffered somewhat at the top level, I doubt that the same holds true at club/open level, where opening knowledge takes more of a backseat to tactical ability and positional understanding.>

It is more important to play openings which will yield positions which are comfortable for players such as ourselves to handle. Let the super-GMs bother about objective truth and that innovation at move 94-to a point, anyway.

Jul-04-13
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  perfidious: <Shams>: A few thoughts on the KID:

Always thought Benko's idea of interest and even tried it once against Mike Lalikos, a 2250 player in my club who was a KID specialist. When we were ~1750 or so, some years before, he beat my Saemisch, so it was time for a go.

My recollection is that he did not keep the play fluid enough and let me get settled, I got a nice positional plus and eventually won.

In the 1990s, as a KID player myself, never faced the line, but would probably have played on the lines of Pinter-Nunn. It is well worth studying Joszef Pinter's games, as he is/was a specialist in the Benko line.

Inter alia, 1.c4 is a move I frequently played at master level against Benko specialists, who just love to rattle off twenty or more moves without thought and thereby avoid time trouble. Why give that type of player what they want? Of course, there is a downside, as some of White's options vs the Dutch, etc, are no longer available.

Jul-04-13  Shams: <perfidious>, <hedgeh0g> Yes, I think my problem with the KID has more to do with personal style than an objective evaluation. (I mean, I still haven't given up the Modern Defense, and that's hardly doing well from a theoretical perspective.)

The KID is just too tactical for me. I'm more of a strategic/positional player.

Jul-04-13  hedgeh0g: <Shams: What do you play against the English? I've toyed with 1...b6 before but I don't really believe in it.>

If you're a KID player, I would suggest the flexible 1...g6!

If White adopts the most ambitious setup by pushing d4, Nc3, e4, etc., you've transposed into a KID (or possibly a Grünfeld). If White insists on playing an English by fianchettoing and placing his knight on c3, for instance, you can adopt a reversed "Closed Sicilian"-type setup, which I believe is potentially quite reasonable for Black, since the lack of tempo means his queen's knight isn't developed yet, so he doesn't have a target for b4-b5 and he allows for ...c6 with central play. Meanwhile, Black's kingside pawn formation with pawns on e5 and f5 should allow him to generate some kingside play.

I would highly recommend taking a look at Kasparov's handling of the English:

Repertoire Explorer: Garry Kasparov (black)

He achieved excellent results by fianchettoing his bishop and placing pawns on d6, e5, f5 and g6. His game against Ljubojevic, Ljubojevic vs Kasparov, 1992, is a good illustration of the idea in play.

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