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|Oct-06-16|| ||Jambow: <pajaste: I like these kinds of rounds. It makes me believe there is market for other games for those who are obsessed by winning and losing.>|
Who were the past tic tac toe champions?
A draw after an epic struggle or brilliant tactical drama is perfectly acceptable and even worth examination. A strategy of getting draws in hopes of luring your opponent into a lax state and take advantage of a mistake is really not the stuff of spectator sports. Neither are 15 move draws imho. If you can weary world class chess players who's lives are consumed with chess what chance do mortals have?
Fischer was exciting because he played for a win from both sides of he board. (Black or white not top or bottom)...
|Oct-06-16|| ||diagonal: Congratulation to Ian Nepomniachtchi for winning the tenth Tal Memorial at Moscow in 2016 as clear first, just within three months after he took the strong international invitation tournament in Danzhou City (Hainan Province) outright. |
Another big success for Ian who is born in 1990, as MVL, Karjakin, and Carlsen...
|Oct-06-16|| ||diagonal: <z> and <PhilF> on listing of tournament serials: |
Fully agree, plus starting and ending dates of a past series should be added as well as it is done in the numbering with the present series. Well, there is a lot of work to do ;-)
In general, the reasons why a long time running series has a break or collapse are economically driven, lack of financial sponsoring: either the main private industrial company lost its interest, has a new marketing strategy and / or the public hand did no longer subsidy ó often due to a change of responsible chairman or reigning government) or the principal initiator (private maecenas) passed away, is forced to stop his, her organizational and financial support, unfortunately mostly due health problems. Sometimes the momentum in a region has just gone, new series are launched.
A few of the past series and most of the present elite events are summarized in Wikipedia, Chessgames index offers already more than 2í000 (single) tournaments, team events and matches.
The year-by-year <cg. chronicle of Lone Pine>, is fantastic, of course. I canít recall another Open tournament featured in such brilliant and extensive way!
An <overall survey of significant Serials> (individual international invitational or open in classical chess circuit, meaning apart from the well-documented official FIDE Candidateís cycles, matches and team events), is difficult to find, thatís why I try to build such an overview.
There are a lot of informative chess Websites, I have linked about two hundreds, and added some words on its principal character: http://www.chessdiagonals.ch/402840...
|Oct-06-16|| ||Jambow: Nepo on the move his strongest achievement to date...|
Go Nepo&*$#%@ or however you spell it!!!
Giri deserves honorable mention Go Giri!!
|Oct-06-16|| ||Sally Simpson: I'm a bit disappointed with the games considering in whose honour the tournament was being held.|
I think one should get into the swing of things.
If I was in the Tal Memorial the first chance I got I'd spec-sac in every game.
If I played in the Nimzovitch Memorial I'd develop and then undevelop all my pieces and make mysterious Rook moves.
If I played in the Fischer Memorial I'd send in a list of 900 demands.
|Oct-06-16|| ||Boomie: <Sally Simpson: If I was in the Tal Memorial the first chance I got I'd spec-sac in every game.>|
Yeah. I would lose material in every game and call it a sac.
|Oct-07-16|| ||Jambow: <Sally Simpson: I'm a bit disappointed with the games considering in whose honour the tournament was being held.>|
Glad you weren't the promoter for this event... ;0]
|Oct-07-16|| ||Mr. V: <Sally Simpson> Levon played like Tal in the Giri game, then I guess he decided he could go back into his genie bottle for a while because he went back to draws.|
|Oct-07-16|| ||offramp: <dumbgai: <offramp: If a champion perceives that a player might be a future challenger it would not be logical to choose him or her as a second.>
If only Kasparov had heard this advice when recruiting Kramnik to his team for the Anand match!>|
You are right, sir! Kramnik was a Wunderkind who Kasparov knew would be a challenger when Kasparov chose him as a second.
I have racked my brain thinking of other seconds in WC matches who subsequently became challengers, but I can't think of any.
There are a few ex-World Champions who became seconds; Anand for example. And Kramnik.
|Oct-07-16|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Well, as usual the players turned to "secure the draw" for the last 3 rounds.
14 wins/30 went to 15 wins/45.|
|Oct-07-16|| ||HeMateMe: which will happen first: A new USA president or a new chess world champion?|
|Oct-07-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Jambow,
I would have brought in a rule that nobody was allowed win whilst material ahead.
In the afore mentioned Aronian - Giri game. Final position.
click for larger view
Black resigns. OK a White win.
But if Black had played on in this line.
34...Rb8 35.Nxb8 Nc5 36.Nxa7 Nxc7
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White is now two pawns up. He would not be allowed to accept the resignation.
On the other hand White can resign here as he his material ahead.
Unless of course he can find some way to sac 3 pawns and mate Black.
Something like this.
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I think they should try out this rule in the Carlsen - Karjakin W.C. Match.
BTW a very well worked out sequence of moves by Aronian in that game. It will a find a place in future tactical books within the chapter 'Pawn Promotion Combinations.'
Aronian vs A Giri, 2016
|Oct-07-16|| ||Chessinfinite: <There are a few ex-World Champions who became seconds; Anand for example. And Kramnik.>|
Just out of curiosity, when was Anand working as second and to whom? iirc, he was busy qualifying for the world title most of the time. I think Anand did work with a lot of players in his lifetime ranging from Patrick Wolf, to PHN. Even if he did help someone, it must have been greatly beneficial to the player, the analysis for which Anand and his team are famous.
Ofcourse Anand has also had his share of unlucky or incompetent seconds such as John Speelman for e.g., who was incidentally also seconding Short, and with practically useless contribution imho.. I guess, It is all part of the game..
|Oct-07-16|| ||Chessinfinite: On the topic of these players as seconds, it would be interesting if Anand worked as second for Karjakin - just to be able to 'beat' Carlsen indirectly !, or maybe Carlsen himself has employed Anand to work for him this November, who knows..|
|Oct-08-16|| ||Mr. V: Karjakin was a second for Ponomariov when he was younger.|
|Oct-08-16|| ||moronovich: |
<Oct-08-16 Mr. V: Karjakin was a second for Ponomariov when he was younger.>
Right.And not when he was older.
|Oct-08-16|| ||rogge: Thanks for clearing that up.|
|Oct-08-16|| ||john barleycorn: am I not more understand anglish?|
|Oct-08-16|| ||Sally Simpson: "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."|
'My Back Pages' by Bob Dylan,
Trying to think of who Anand aided in the role of a second.
Maybe it was with Carlsen in 2013.
Everyone says what a nice chap Anand is so I can just imagine him turning up at Camp Carlsen to help Carlsen prepare against himself.
"Thanks Vishy," says a relieved Carlsen. "It's true what they say, you are a nice chap."
Vishy leave Camp Carlsen and fire bombs two butcher shops.
He's a nice guy at the chessboard but when it comes to Veggies v Meat Eaters he's Mr. McNasty No Prisoners.
|Oct-08-16|| ||not not: Ian Nepomniachtchi beat Magnus Carlsen 3 to 0, with 2 draws|
sounds like a good recommendation for future WC match
|Oct-08-16|| ||not not: perhaps Nepo is "messiah" not So?|
|Oct-08-16|| ||cormier: search "Ian Nepomniachtchi vs Magnus Carlsen"|
|Oct-08-16|| ||Jambow: <Sally Simpson: Hi Jambow, |
I would have brought in a rule that nobody was allowed win whilst material ahead.>
I'm sure we could find plenty of examples where individual games support what ever idea we like though. I don't mind football scoring and yet it is anathema to many. I actually thought it was an enjoyable tournament...
I was mostly giving you a lighthearted poke thanks for giving more thought and time to my comment than it truly warranted.
|Oct-09-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Jambow,
'A light hearted poke.'
I think before the Pun Makers see that one you might want to re-phrase it. :)
|Oct-11-16|| ||WarewolfofLondon: Congrats to Nepo, Carlsens' second may one day be the first, it will not be Girli that is for sure.|
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